I do not see how that is a meaningful concept. — Jackson
What do you find unmeaningful about it? — ZzzoneiroCosm
People with blind-sight don't behave like normal humans. Neither would a p-zombie. — Harry Hindu
He wants to say there is a difference between a zombie and a human with self -consciousness. — Jackson
Of course there is. Everyone knows there is. — ZzzoneiroCosm
I put it several ways but you're cherry-picking.Before responding, what is it like reading my post?
— Harry Hindu
I do not see how that is a meaningful concept. — Jackson
P-Zombies are make-believe concepts that have no basis in reality. P-zombies are stipulated as having no experiences of color, shapes, sounds, feelings, etc. and being identical to humans in behavior. All one has to do is point to blind-sight patients as evidence that p-zombies could not behave like humans. In this sense, the concept of p-zombies are like the concept of god. They are proposed to be possible realities when one simply needs to look at reality to see that such things are not possible as stipulated.P-zombies are specifically stipulated as appearing to be normal people. — Tate
I put it several ways but you're cherry-picking. — Harry Hindu
the fact that an organism has conscious experience at all means, basically, that there is something it is like to be that organism. — Nagel
the fact that an organism has conscious experience at all means, basically, that the organism sees some aspects of its environment and not others.
the fact that an organism has conscious experience at all means, basically, that the organism sees some kinds of picture in its Cartesian theatre and not others.
What do you mean by "sees"? Can an organism see it's own mind?Choose:
the fact that an organism has conscious experience at all means, basically, that the organism sees some aspects of its environment and not others.
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the fact that an organism has conscious experience at all means, basically, that the organism sees some kinds of picture in its Cartesian theatre and not others. — bongo fury
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