When does metaphysical border on mystical? Eliminating metaphysics (which I consider impossible without severely crippling philosophy) would remove all the entertaining babble about quantum entanglement, for example. — jgill
Even in thinking of the approach of language being a limitation, it is possible to see Wittgenstein as a mystic, — Jack Cummins
What does the discipline of metphysics have to do with quantum entanglement? — Jackson
You could say that of logic — Jackson
WikiLogic is the study of correct reasoning or good arguments. It is often defined in a more narrow sense as the science of deductively valid inferences or of logical truths. In this sense, it is equivalent to formal logic and constitutes a formal science investigating how conclusions follow from premises in a topic-neutral way or which propositions are true only in virtue of the logical vocabulary they contain
If anything, the idea that metaphysics can be eliminated may be a form of concrete thinking, as if there is one way of seeing reality rather than the plurality of possibilities. — Jack Cummins
First, I think that metaphysics, despite the extremely intricate forest of definitions and positions, can be defined as any system of ideas that you try to use to interpret how things are. So, when you say “I think that certain things can be thought as they were this and this, this way and this way”, you are making metaphysics. This coincides to what in science is called hypothesis: “let’s imagine that things are this way”; “let’s imagine that that planet changed its direction because there is another planet whose existence we don’t know yet”: this is metaphysics.In the twentieth first century, I am wondering how much further is philosophy going in the elimination of metaphysics. — Jack Cummins
Those who see metaphysics as being nonsensical may just be making metaphysical assumptions invisible. — Jack Cummins
If anything, the idea that metaphysics can be eliminated may be a form of concrete thinking, as if there is one way of seeing reality rather than the plurality of possibilities. — Jack Cummins
I am actually wondering if we are not seeing a new metaphysical turn. One indeed based around 'Quantum entanglement'. — Tobias
I still puzzle over it, after having spent considerable time on it. — Manuel
I still maintain that what one person calls "metaphysics" another says isn't or is bad philosophy, etc. I think metaphysics now is more obscure than it was during Descartes time, because the topics are much more technical, and we know less that the classical figures hoped we could know. — Manuel
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