You're becoming delusional again. Ukraine isn't "my sister" anymore than it is yours! :rofl: — Apollodorus
Russians do indeed see Ukraine as a sister nation, but one who has joined the West against Russia. In other words, a traitor — Apollodorus
why the constant put down? It's symptomatic of something. Perhaps just an attempt to protect the banal nihilism or whataboutism of our times against the return of the seemingly clearcut. — Olivier5
Maybe something like: is there justice in this world? Is there even room for hope in this matter? Is some sort of just world peace worth aiming for, and on what basis, or is history destined to be an absurd tragedy without rhyme nor reason? — Olivier5
I wonder if the constant train of insults and snide remarks from the anti NATO camp is indicative of something, some fragility, a fear. Otherwise, why the constant put down? It's symptomatic of something. Perhaps just an attempt to protect the banal nihilism or whataboutism of our times against the return of the seemingly clearcut. — Olivier5
But then you immediately continue... — ssu
It's also pretty funny coming from someone whose post history in this thread is littered with jeers made for infants. — Streetlight
And just when in your thinking the Ukrainians become these turncoats who ceased to be sisters and deserved the "special military operation"?If a sister is a turncoat it doesn't follow that she ceases to be a sister. — Apollodorus
Looked at that way, we'd be approaching reality in a dangerously sober manner. The fighting and killing is over whose truth/lies justice/barbarism becomes history. — magritte
your efforts to justify Russian aggression are equally shit and no less trash. — Streetlight
ECFR’s research shows that, while Europeans feel great solidarity with Ukraine and support sanctions against Russia, they are split about the long-term goals. They divide between a “Peace” camp (35 per cent of people) that wants the war to end as soon as possible, and a “Justice” camp that believes the more pressing goal is to punish Russia (25 per cent of people). In all countries, apart from Poland, the “Peace” camp is larger than the “Justice” camp.
Peace versus Justice: The coming European split over the war in Ukraine – ECFR — Apollodorus
So, yeah. You've definitely "proved" your point! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: — Apollodorus
it could be that the reason why this thread has so much verbal violence on display is NOT that it is merely a political thread (hence non philosophical) but on the contrary, that we are circling around a deeply metaphysical question, that hasn’t been teased out yet. — Olivier5
... caca ... caca ... the biggest caca ... — Olivier5
... dogmatic bullshit ... — Streetlight
... load of bullshit ... — creativesoul
... shit ... — Streetlight
... shitty ... — neomac
the best legend — Olivier5
The 'stakes' being US hegemony — Streetlight
one little local improvement you can make is to eliminate the power of those corporations and in turn do away with incessant drive for war and global genocide — Streetlight
Those are two things. — magritte
The domination of the White Man over the rest of the world since the sixteenth century is coming to an end. It will not go on any more in Asia which is awake. [...]
India belongs naturally to other Asiatic countries rather than western. Her ties with Britain are more artificial than her ties with China. The domination of the White Man over the rest of the world since the sixteenth century is coming to an end. It will not go on any more in Asia which is awake. I am convinced of that. Our domination came into being as a result partly of our voyages, partly by a skilful use of commerce and partly as a result of science. As India develops industrially she will also develop as a military power.
It is for Indians themselves to settle their differences. It is not any of our business. I should, therefore, announce that twelve months after the Japanese war we shall abandon our responsibilities for India. I do not think we ought to insist on Dominion Status. The idea that India should become a dominion is futile and quite contrary to her geographical necessity. Other dominions had historical affinity with us, but India culturally has not and will not belong to us. Her affinity will be with Asiatic countries. Her history and culture are contrary to ours.
The era of White domination will not last. It cannot be revived. White domination has made it impossible for a stable world. You cannot have peace in the world secured as long as some people want to keep themselves in power. There will be hundred and one injustices in the world as a result of this domination. The other side has a feeling of hatred and contempt for those who dominate. Until you get approximately an equal standard in East and West you cannot go on.
I think this thread can use a little bit of French love. — Olivier5
Who will find the best legend for it? — Olivier5
The 'stakes' being US hegemony, which is worth as much global death and suffering as required for its maintenance. — Streetlight
I suspect that Russia is not included in Russel's 'domination of the White Man' — unenlightened
I suspect that Russia is not included in Russel's 'domination of the White Man'
— unenlightened
I don't see why it should be. — Apollodorus
What are we discussing really?
— Tzeentch
Basic principles of morality.
— baker
Are we, though?
Then what moral actors' actions are we discussing here? Putin's? Biden's? Those of every individual engaged in the war?
That either sounds like it would be overly simplistic or unimaginably complicated. — Tzeentch
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