So, to be clear, you think that if an event occurs at time t1, it can be present later? — Bartricks
There's as much evidence that all of this is real, as there is that it is an illusion. — Down The Rabbit Hole
Yes, and what about eastern ideas? They're good. — Bartricks
I take the lack of reply to mean that you now accept that the time lag argument - my version of it - goes through? — Bartricks
When an event occurs is when it is present and when it is present is when it occurs. — Bartricks
Nothing that I sense to be present is actually present. — Bartricks
If my sensation of d's presentness does not occur until time t2, then d appears present when it is not. That is, my sensation of d's presentness is false. If materialism is true, then all my impressions of presentness are false. Nothing that I sense to be present is actually present. The event of my sensation of d's presentness will occur after d is present, not simultaneous with it. And that's true of all of my sensations of presentness if materialism is true. So they're all false if materialism is true. — Bartricks
Thus, the falsity of all of our sensations of presentness if materialism is true is default evidence that materialism is false. — Bartricks
I am not sure how you got to materialism is false. I get that there is an illusion of presentness. But that doesn't make materialism false. It would mean that there is an illusion about part of experience. Materialism could still be correct in the main. And in fact could simply contain this as one of the facets of materialism.But it is default evidence that materialism is false. — Bartricks
That's a bold statement, even on a philosophical forum. But, I think I see how you equate Materialism and Temporalism as subjective beliefs. For example, Einstein's Relativity (block time) posited that there is no knowable objective time. Hence my T1 and your T1 may not be simultaneous. Our intuitive sense of time, and its passage, is inherently subjective. For an astronaut on Mars, and a scientist on Earth, there is a significant time-delay, even at the light-speed of radio transmissions.But it is default evidence that materialism is false. And pretty powerful evidence too. — Bartricks
. If materialism is true, then none of our iimpressions of the presentness of events are accurate. That means they're evidence that materialism is false. Not true. False. — Bartricks
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