However, I do not think relations are strictly fundamental in the sense that they depend on variety while the opposite I think is not logical — Daniel
For me, certainty in a rational sense should leave no room for doubt (like a properly constructed logical argument for instance) and since we have two possibilities it might not be true, I wouldn't commit to it. — Benkei
Our brains clearly can't match up to the task at hand — Agent Smith
So you think that we are condemned to uncertainty about the general picture? I don't want to admit it but it might probably be the case. — dimosthenis9
I would like to hear the facts/things/ideas/rules(name it whatever you want) that you think that apply in universe/cosmos and that we (as humans) can be sure about them. — dimosthenis9
What you do matters. — Pantagruel
have thought about that too and it's my "secret hope" but I have to be honest with myself and admit that there isn't any evidence at all for that. — dimosthenis9
So you think that we are condemned to uncertainty about the general picture? I don't want to admit it but it might probably be the case. — dimosthenis9
Do you really think that if we're not absolutely certain about something we're uncertain about it, i.e. that we can't rely on it, that we're doubtful about it, that it's unknown? — Ciceronianus
I wonder how you live if that's the case. Are you God, or perhaps a good friend of His, to invoke absolutes? — Ciceronianus
then evidence is evidence of the naturalistic role of consciousness — Pantagruel
At most, IME, Descartes only "proved" cogitatio fit, ergo cogitatio est, not that "I exist". — 180 Proof
So it seems to me that, while we can't know if what our senses are producing are the reality or an illusion, we can at least be sure that there is something eluding us — Jerry
There are no Absolute Truths — Alkis Piskas
Yet still though isn't an evidence for its universal feedback role. — dimosthenis9
Do you really think that if we're not absolutely certain about something we're uncertain about it, i.e. that we can't rely on it, that we're doubtful about it, that it's unknown?
— Ciceronianus
That is the case indeed, either you like it or not. — dimosthenis9
what each person individually consider as "absolute truths". — dimosthenis9
So you doubted you were posting your response to my post when you responded? You were unsure you were doing so--perhaps because you were uncertain you were typing on or using whatever device you used? Or is the fact you responded, and used whatever you used to do so, examples of absolute truths?
Do you doubt you're reading this, or that there is something to be read? — Ciceronianus
Would I have claimed it otherwise? :grin:Are you really sure? — javi2541997
Right. You think. Isn't that subjective? An "absolute truth" --if it existed-- would be objective, wouldn't it? "Truths" are created by humans. Hence they are always subjective. Even if most people agree to something, i.e. there is a consensus, a common agreement abiut it, this something will still be subjective, simply because it has been created someone.I think death is an absolute truth. — javi2541997
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