So in terms of my original argument, I'll still commit to 5 but reject 6:
5. My belief is true and might be wrong
6. My true belief might be wrong — Michael
Seriously? — Srap Tasmaner
e) I am not certain that the number 2 is even
Which may, in fact, be false.
How do you think this is resolved? — Michael
We then conclude that I could be wrong even if I know everything — Michael
As far as I can tell that's a contradiction: know and wrong are mutually exclusive, oui? — Agent Smith
In my book, "possibly being wrong" is fallibilism which precludes omniscience sensu strictissimo. — Agent Smith
Or does omniscience mean knowing everything with certainty? — Michael
By logical implication, yes. — universeness
And what does certainty require? — Michael
f there is something which is true but not necessarily true then omniscience is impossible. — Michael
a) If I know that John is a bachelor then John might not be a bachelor — Michael
This can be interpreted as:
b) If I know that John is a bachelor then there is a possible world where John is not a bachelor
c) If I know that John is a bachelor then I am not certain that John is a bachelor
Do you believe that either of (b) and (c) is false? — Michael
I do. — Andrew M
No one in this forum can define a deity. — Rocco Rosano
fallibilism — Michael
My real suspicion is that there is mistake in moving from "Somewhere among my beliefs there is a falsehood" to "I should think, of each of my beliefs, that it might be false." — Srap Tasmaner
For each ticket n it is rational to say that this ticket might be (even most likely is) a loser. — Michael
It just is or isn't. — Srap Tasmaner
And yet you resist the world's favorite choice for such a situation: "I do not know whether aliens exist," because you have an agenda. The word "might" in "Aliens might exist" describes our epistemic condition, not the state of the world. — Srap Tasmaner
And mixes modalities. I don't want to go through all this again. — Srap Tasmaner
a) if aliens exist then I do not know if aliens exist
This claim is true. — Michael
Is it? It does not look true. What is the connection you're positing between the existence of aliens and my ignorance of that fact? An equivalent English sentence is "Aliens exist only if I don't know whether aliens exist." Does that sound remotely plausible? — Srap Tasmaner
What you mean is that you're taking "I don't know whether aliens exist" (P) as a premise, in which case, you can claim any conditional with P as the consequent is true, but all of them are uninformative, so this "argument" is abusive. — Srap Tasmaner
It shows that both "aliens exist" and "I do not know if aliens exist" can both be true. — Michael
It's a material conditional, which is true if the consequent is true. — Michael
Aliens exist
Aliens might not exist (≔ I do not know if aliens exist)
Therefore, aliens exist and aliens might not exist — Michael
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