but those gods are the foundation of democracy and western civilization — Athena
They are the substance of liberal education and our laws. — Athena
As you found fault in what I said........, — Athena
I can not imagine anything of importance that we would know without the effort to understand cause and effect and universal truths. — Athena
universeness — universeness
But we don't need god fables or Arthurian legends to exemplify such cautionary tales, we could just use the more tame example of your misunderstanding of what I am typing. — universeness
We would not have an argument if you were not doing exactly what I said atheists do. You are using a Christian concept of God and creation for all your arguments. Stop it — Athena
And don't yell at me about humans creating those stories because you have to distort everything I am saying to believe you have an argument with me. — Athena
Joseph Campbell, the expert on such mythology, explains how we come to have similar myths and the importance of those myths. You are the one applying superstition to my arguments because that supports your atheist cause. — Athena
My cause is democracy, rule by reason as opposed to authority over the people, and my sense of purpose is raising awareness of the foundation of democracy — Athena
an imitation of the gods arguing until they have a consensus on the best reasoning. — Athena
But we don't need god fables or Arthurian legends to exemplify such cautionary tales, we could just use the more tame example of your misunderstanding of what I am typing. — universeness
Rather than refuse to talk about what theorist believe as the atheists do — Athena
Eden (uncultivated plain) Adam (settlement on the plain) and Eve (the Lady of the rib and the lady who makes live) come from Sumerian mythology and I would bet this story is an account of climate change, but over the years of the truth of the story is forgotten and we get myth instead of accurate information. There are several prototypes of Jesus. As Christians convert millions of people by giving the people's gods and seasonal celebrations a Christian interpretation, my intent is to reverse this process and raise awareness of the pagan beginning of those ideas. — Athena
Eve (the Lady of the rib and the lady who makes live) come from Sumerian mythology — Athena
I have no particularly christian concept of god, — universeness
Just a small aside! Did you forget about Adam's first wife, Lilith? Made from the same dirt/earth/clay that Adam was made from in that particular fable. If you don't want to be guided too much by christian versions of fables then why is Lilith not important here as 'first woman'? — universeness
And with medievel diet we have to remember it wasn't fresh, the food that could be preserved. The idea was to eat only the food from the last season, not this one as you didn't know just how the it would be this year. So a lot of salt. — ssu
I had no idea that I was talking to a women. — ssu
The English word god comes from the Old English god, which itself is derived from the Proto-Germanic *ǥuđán. Its cognates in other Germanic languages include guþ, gudis (both Gothic), guð (Old Norse), god (Old Saxon, Old Frisian, and Old Dutch), and got (Old High German).
The Proto-Germanic meaning of *ǥuđán and its etymology is uncertain. It is generally agreed that it derives from a Proto-Indo-European neuter passive perfect participle *ǵʰu-tó-m. This form within (late) Proto-Indo-European itself was possibly ambiguous, and thought to derive from a root *ǵʰeu̯- "to pour, libate" (the idea survives in the Dutch word, 'Giet', meaning, to pour) (Sanskrit huta, see hotṛ), or from a root *ǵʰau̯- (*ǵʰeu̯h2-) "to call, to invoke" (Sanskrit hūta). Sanskrit hutá = "having been sacrificed", from the verb root hu = "sacrifice", but a slight shift in translation gives the meaning "one to whom sacrifices are made."
Depending on which possibility is preferred, the pre-Christian meaning of the Germanic term may either have been (in the "pouring" case) "libation" or "that which is libated upon, idol" — or, as Watkins[1] opines in the light of Greek χυτη γαια "poured earth" meaning "tumulus", "the Germanic form may have referred in the first instance to the spirit immanent in a burial mound" — or (in the "invoke" case) "invocation, prayer" (compare the meanings of Sanskrit brahman) or "that which is invoked". — Wikipedia
Perhaps you live in China? — Athena
Only if you have always lived in a region that is not Christian-dominated can you not have "particularly Christian concepts of god". — Athena
Thank you for motivating me to look for the Etymology of "God". This information proves there is so much more for me to learn. — Athena
Should we assume you know everything and are superior? — Athena
What Sumerian story are you relating to climate change? The flood in the fable of Gilgamesh?
You can achieve what you suggest very quickly by honestly stating that all god stories are untrue!
We don't need to stroke the theist ego and pander to lies. We need to value and profess historical TRUTH as best we can based on the very limited accuracy of the historical documentation we have.
3 hours ago — universeness
What?? Have you ever tried personally to perceive 'everything?' You do know that cannot be done, right? — universeness
What if not all God stories are untrue, but we simply don't know enough to interpret them correctly? — Athena
One reason for telling stories is to transmit information essential to survival. — Athena
Do you mean it was not one-upmanship to question if I forgot about Lilith? — Athena
I'm no good at that! All I can say is that to impose one's wishes, including but not limited to thinking on someone's behalf, herein the child to be born, amounts to treating the child as if s/he were an inanimate object (like robots). That's unethical, oui? — Agent Smith
Yes, it is overlooking their dignity, using them as a means..treating them like an inanimate chess piece to move around and foist significant existential conditions upon. — schopenhauer1
None of those statements are necessarily true. — schopenhauer1
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