What evidence do you have that war crimes continue in occupied territories after the peace deals have been signed to a greater extent than they do during the war. — Isaac
What evidence do you have that they won't continue after a peace deal? — Olivier5
how would you bring the guilty to justice, after a peace deal? — Olivier5
Does that sound like the kind of environment you'd be airlifting in battalions worth of troops with cargo planes? — Tzeentch
They routinely murder and torture folks there. — Olivier5
So your theory is ... — apokrisis
Is it normal military tactics to stuff around taking hold of an enemy transport hub that you never intend to use? — apokrisis
Even if you were asked to construct a feint on Kyiv with this exact force available to you, would this have been your cunning plan? It this the top option? — apokrisis
What’s the bleeding point of ringing an unwanted airfield with precious paratroopers when you have a whole country of other more intelligent choices? — apokrisis
Western backing of Ukraine is hanging by a thread. The only parties that truly want it to continue are the Washington and Brussels elite. — Tzeentch
I can't think of a single precedent. In no circumstances at all, that I'm aware of, throughout history, have war crimes continued on the same scale after peace negotiations as they were at before them. — Isaac
Huh? Support for Ukraine has been something, both "in spirit" / goodwill in general populations, and materially. Have you checked the reactions all over...? It's not just some elite highups in Washington and Brussels. — jorndoe
If Russia was to just take over, say, Donbas and Crimea, then their anti-NATO thing would still apply. Less so if they'd taken over Kyiv and captured/killed the government, I might add. As an aside, without a secured route to Crimea via Berdiansk/Melitopol, they'd still have a route via Kerch. There are whatever plans at work, possibly changing now and then, some possibly rushed or pushed out. — jorndoe
I say the hell with fascists, whatever their reasons to be fascist. — Olivier5
Where the response to torture is "Yes, everybody does that," there's some moral calibration in order. No, not everybody does that, and those who do are criminals. — frank
Exactly. No need to trivialize war crimes. — Olivier5
And fight. — Olivier5
As if Russians are not known for their ethnic cleansing penchant in the occupied territories: — neomac
which strategy is most likely to quickly reduce the scale of war crimes. — Isaac
Except where Putin has succeeded in gaining a military victory: In Chechnya, the Chechen Republic. Of course, Russian officials and Putin and Kadyrov have declared the war to be over. However:I can't think of a single precedent. In no circumstances at all, that I'm aware of, throughout history, have war crimes continued on the same scale after peace negotiations as they were at before them. I would think the complete absence of such a situation from the annals of human history would count as fairly substantial evidence.
There are no such war crimes in Russia nowadays. — Isaac
The separatists denied that the war was over, and guerrilla warfare continued throughout the North Caucasus. Colonel Sulim Yamadayev, Chechnya's second most powerful loyalist warlord after Kadyrov, also denied that the war is over. In March 2007, Yamadayev claimed there were well over 1,000 separatists and foreign Islamic militants entrenched in the mountains of Chechnya alone: "The war is not over, the war is far from being over. What we are facing now is basically a classic partisan war and my prognosis is that it will last two, three, maybe even five more years." According to the CIA factbook (2015), Russia has severely disabled the Chechen separatist movement, although sporadic violence still occurs throughout the North Caucasus
(See here)Over the past decade, the world has been shaken by stories about human rights abuses in Chechnya. State-run executions of gay people were the the most notorious, but the reach of Ramzan Kadyrov, the head of the Chechen Republic, exceeds the borders of the republic. His disregard for human rights, and his deal with Vladimir Putin, is increasingly becoming a greater threat - even for his fellow human rights abusers in Moscow.
The question is about which strategy is most likely to quickly reduce the scale of war crimes. — Isaac
my country — Tzeentch
an impression — Tzeentch
the Russians have taken the approach — Tzeentch
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