I think the main issue is protein. I get most of my protein from goat whey and peanut powder. I don't have any interest in the taste of meat. — frank
I'm surely purely both. I eat both meat and vegetables.purely carnivores or purely vegans. — Benj96
This is a strange and difficult world we live in. — god must be atheist
You get your whey protein from milk (from female goats right/ the same in the case of cows or whichever animals whey is available) So buying whey increases the demand for female animals. What happens to all the male ones that are inadvertently born in the process of trying to breed females for milk? — Benj96
On that note regarding the strict control of genetic diversity of poultry (or any domestic animal for that matter) as you described, this doesn't fare well against transmissible infections (bird flu for example) — Benj96
If they are identical clones then they will likely be equally vulnerable to a fatal disease. — Benj96
Luckily by downsizing the average distance between potentially infectious animals as well as their general well being /resilience is increased inadvertently which works in our favour to prevent the spread of animal born infections. — Benj96
After a period of abstinence, it becomes repugnant. Our initial decision to do without meat was due to the hypocrisy factor: if we're not willing to kill it, we should not eat it. The transition was easier than we expected; the aesthetics of food preparation are much improved.I think the main issue is protein. I get most of my protein from goat whey and peanut powder. I don't have any interest in the taste of meat. — frank
Yes, I'm aware of the problem. It's just hard to get enough digestible protein from plants. — frank
. The reason we read about them is that we don't readt about the half-billion (or so) other Americas who don't do that. "Mr. John Tavernicky did not kill anyone today" would make a poor headline. — god must be atheist
The trend continues. We, today's people, can eat it, if we don't have to kill it first.
But once in a while a vegan rears its ugly head (figure of speech - they are not ugly) and instills in us a sense of guilt.
This is a strange and difficult world we live in. — god must be atheist
Nothing like that can happen in the Republican-ridden US, where agri-business has serious political clout and zero scruples. — Vera Mont
They're not exactly that, but they are bred for specialty traits: lean ham, more milk, big brisket, tender white breast... They're commodities, not animals. They are commercial items, subject to product-design, product-modification, according to the demands of the market. — Vera Mont
In essence who's beliefs ought we to also believe? — Benj96
The use of indexing systems, estimating the overall diet quality based on different aspects of healthful dietary models (be it the US Dietary Guidelines for Americans or the compliance to the Mediterranean Diet) indicated consistently the vegan diet as the most healthy one.
You could go with theirs...National Center for Biotechnology Information
The use of indexing systems, estimating the overall diet quality based on different aspects of healthful dietary models (be it the US Dietary Guidelines for Americans or the compliance to the Mediterranean Diet) indicated consistently the vegan diet as the most healthy one. — Vera Mont
Thanks Vera I'll have a look into it. My question for you in the meantime would be "Is veganism healthy only when a portion of humanity adopt it or would it also be the healthiest option if everyone adopted it globally? — Benj96
(considering the existence of those with intolerances/food allergies, illnesses, gastrointestinal diseases, illnesses, gastrointestinal diseases, muscle wasting disease or in a protein malnourished state, — Benj96
those who cannot monetarily afford vegan alternatives, those that simply don't have vegan products available in abundance in their local supermarkets — Benj96
Perhaps veganism is not the perfect fit for all currently. Individual needs considered - medical or otherwise. — Benj96
I think people with those characteristics are worthy of seeking out and hearing their say on such core matters. Afterall that is leadership quality is it not? — Benj96
I don't know. I'm more interested in health than veganism, which doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the health of humans or of the world.
In the US, we need a government agency to start reorganizing the way we approach food. What we have is the result of industries that have profits on their minds instead of health. — frank
I don't know. I'm more interested in health than veganism, which doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the health of humans or of the world. — frank
But everybody can do something better than they have been.
Nothing is carved in stone. Supermarkets are not mandated in the Ten Commandments and all those half-empty shopping malls could easily convert to hydroponic gardens. There are quite a few urban community projects already underway. — Vera Mont
What makes me mad is that all the governments in the world are taking too late these solutions. — javi2541997
There's a lot of corruption. — frank
Absolutely. You have quite a knack for problem resolution out of curiosity are you/were you in a management position in your career? — Benj96
I have yet to see one ethical problem raised (other than what's mistaken for pity and empathy) about eating animals. — god must be atheist
I have yet to see one ethical problem raised — god must be atheist
It depends on the moral code you follow, which rests on some founding principle.
If it's one of those whose founding principle is: "Pain bad; pleasure good", then its first moral tenet would logically be "Avoid causing pain." — Vera Mont
Ethics in my book, interestingly, is "sacrifice given by the self to promote others who will propagate the dna derivatives of the sacrifice giver." — god must be atheist
I found out that the creator of the world in native cultures was not the forbidding giant of a monstrous knower, judge and goodness. — god must be atheist
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