that admitting to yourself you have almost endless untapped potential generally results in self-loathing and guilt. — I like sushi
Sorry, god Vera, we have to expose you as a fake and the same for those other gods you mentioned.
It's been fun but now, you need to return to the fable pages of human storytelling.
You played your god role very well! You told me nothing of value and remained cryptic at all times. You even passed any blame onto other gods. — universeness
When the Olympic gods won their war with the Titans, Atlas was stuck in the basement, holding up the heavens, leaving Zeus free to throw lightning bolts and get laid. — Paine
The buzzkill Spinoza brings to your experiment, however, is that he rejects the 'god does whatever he wants' vibe. — Paine
Sounds like a good time Frank. Send pics of the beautiful ice sculptures haha. Perhaps you could do all those things simultaneously? — Benj96
I also want to say something here about the intellect and the will that we commonly attribute to God. If intellect and will do belong to the eternal essence of God, we must certainly mean something different by both these attributes than is commonly understood. For an intellect and a will that constituted the essence of God would have to be totally different from our intellect and will and would not agree with them in anything but name – no more in fact than the heavenly sign of the dog agrees with the barking animal which is a dog. I prove this thus. If intellect does belong to the divine nature, it will not be able, as our intellect is, to be posterior (as most believe) or simultaneous by nature with what is understood, since God is prior in causality to all things (by p16c1). To the contrary truth and the formal essence of things are such precisely because they exist as such objectively in the intellect of God. That is why God’s intellect, insofar as it is conceived as constituting God’s essence, is in truth the cause both of the essence of things and of their existence. This seems to have been noticed also by those who have maintained that the intellect, the will and the power of God are one and the same thing. — Spinoza, Ethic, Bk1, Prop17,Scholium, translated by Silverthorne and Kisnerby
How can we identify irrefutable intent some billions of light years away before we emerged any more than you can identify irrefutable intent that Sarah, aged 72 tried to make a sandwich at 7 o clock in Seattle today? — Benj96
But the intent can never be picked up and said "here is intent, in my hand, look at it. There." — Benj96
Santa is real as a child — Benj96
"That for which no greater thought can be conceived" - Anselm. — Benj96
What would you, God Universeness, do instead of Vera? God Universeness please explain to us mere mortals of the ways of your universeness (how apt haha) ? What is the right thing to do? What ought we value? Where did you come from, why do you exist and why were we created?
Pray tell, almighty Universeness. — Benj96
I already role played god earlier. I would not have created anything as I would be unable to know what and why I was, and I would have no needs — universeness
WHY WOULD I CREATE THAT WHICH IS INFERIOR TO ME? — universeness
No it's not, it's a lie told to children that they fall for, but then children are easily fooled. You can even make them think you can make your thumb disappear! — universeness
As all thoughts have not happened yet, this is a stupid assumption — universeness
You have to maintain limits so you still have pleasure and pain. You have to do stuff that's annoying every now and then to keep the old psyche from blurring into oblivion. I'll probably get a job at Starbucks to keep myself on my toes. — frank
Who is the "I" then? — Benj96
If I am an omnigod, then I know all such answers. You are suggesting god still has things to learn and experience. That contradicts the omni's.Perhaps to experience all forms of yourself - including ones where you are not omniscient and everywhere? To feel what it's like to not have answers, to be contradicted, to feel ignorant. To ask why, to know what mystery is? To feel what it's like to forget? To feel what it's like to discover, to change, to reiminagine meanings? — Benj96
I think if a God was truly omniscient they would know what it's like to not be omniscient also and all the emotions and uncertainties that come with that — Benj96
They would be able to put limitations on the self in pursuit of new perspectives? — Benj96
Would you rather no children ever believed in Santa? Would you rob them of their childhood and have them born with a full set of adult knowledge instead? I think many would find that disagreeable (they have their own truths) compared to yours. — Benj96
'The greatest thought' is no different than asking 'what is the biggest number?' These are simple questions of relativity.And what I'm saying by "that for which no greater thought can ever be conceived" is a thought that is greater than that which any one person can ever prove outright to all others - is a truth that none of us can have full ownership over - and that truth would be what reality truly is. — Benj96
If you knew fully what reality is there is simply no need for anyone else to ever exist. There purpose would be meaningless. As you already know everything. The greatest of all thoughts possible. — Benj96
If you were (a) God for a day, what would you do? — Benj96
I offer above a word-for-word reiteration of the OP's inquiry. Sometimes a question needs to be asked by someone else for its import to sink in. — Agent Smith
And we are all typing in front of computers (or smartphones, ipads etc) each about "if I were God... Etc"
Your dream/imagining matches the reality of this situation no? Just that the "I" in reference is a different "I" each time. — Benj96
"I dreamed I was a butterfly, flitting around in the sky; then I awoke. Now I wonder: Am I a man who dreamed of being a butterfly, or am I a butterfly dreaming that I am a man?" - Zhuang Zhou — punos
We dream of God while God dreams of us, but who is the prime dreamer?... tricky tricky. — punos
coterminous — punos
The latest evolutionary phase of God's development here on Earth now is the development of artificial intelligence which is in my view a partial local emergence of God's mind that goes together with all the other emerging parts of the super-organism on this planet. Eventually all of mankind will be absorbed by this higher order emerging intelligence into a symbiotic relationship. I believe this is the destiny of not only man on Earth but of all life and matter in the universe. The universe is still very very young and God is still gestating in the first trimester.
Temple of Apollo at Delphi:
“Know thyself, and thou shalt know the universe and God.” — punos
I can't help but be concerned that the advent of an artifical intelligence greater than our own will be met with the fiercest of reproach; fear, anger and an attempt to destroy it by those that are ignorant and inherently distrusting of its motives. Just as a cornered rat, bear or any other animal will fiercely lash out against that which they don't understand, on instinct. — Benj96
If you were (a) God for a day, what would you do? — Benj96
No more hell, if it exists. Instead, all of us would have to experience all the pain and unhappiness we have inflicted on others. — T Clark
Karma could be interlinked between every single person's decisions as a summation effect. Eventually returning in a cycle to impact the people who caused it. — Benj96
But if I'm going to be God, I get to set it up the way I want. None of this so-called "karma." If you can't do the time, don't do the crime. I'll take my 27+ years. Hitler gets his 1,000,000+ years. You'll get whatever you deserve. — T Clark
If that sits right with you fine. If that's the god you would chose to be so be it. I myself prefer to envision perhaps a God that exerts reproach through reasoning, showing those that act badly the true nature of their actions, the consequences in full and allow them to feel shame, guilt, and suffering at their own hand. — Benj96
I'd change the whole punishment and reward system. No more hell, if it exists. Instead, all of us would have to experience all the pain and unhappiness we have inflicted on others. — T Clark
How easy is it to calculate individual culpability down to the last hour? — Vera Mont
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