Personally I was never able to believe in god/s, even as a child. I've never had a sensus divinitatis and the idea of theism was never coherent to me. I only got interested in the arguments used to prove or disprove god because the apologists thought reason could be aggressively mustered in their defence. — Tom Storm
Our lives are unique, we will disassemble and become 'spare parts' again. — universeness
BUT, In this sense, we are all part of each other. — universeness
I find great personal contentment in that. My life has purpose, meaning, value and a spectacular sensation of wonderment. I want to contribute to secular, humanist, socialist, democratic progress in everyway I can, as long as I live. — universeness
And the pupil shouldn't advise the teacher. — Bartricks
LOL, I am a registered organ donor, but for that to work, one must die in the hospital and that is not something we can always arrange. Hit me with a truck and make my brain dead and get me to the hospital while my blood is still circulating so my organs can live on in other people. Or I consider my mitochondria that has given me life and dying someplace where the birds and other creatures might consume my mitochondria and give it life. — Athena
I struggled with superstitious fears when I was young and this became an extremely serious part of my life when I was in my early 30's. — Athena
:clap: You smashed it, you saw through the bullshit, you denied the demons they tried to convince you existed and you called their bluff. Satan, God, Jinn, Demons, Angels, Hell, are all powerless fantasies.I am very glad I decided those superstitious ideas were false. — Athena
The evil that people are capable of is terrifying. The human mind can become very sick indeed, we need to find better preventions and cures, as praying just does not work.Satanism became very popular and some years later, my daughter had a friend who went to prison with another friend for their satanic killing of one of the girls. — Athena
I think it is sad that we all do not have a sense of oneness with the universe. — Athena
What other explanation can there be? — Athena
:lol: Finally, something! — Agent Smith
Yeah, Well done! You made Bar tricks say something nice about you! — universeness
He cuts through the noise to get at the signal — Agent Smith
You think the only possible explanation for the external world is God?!?
Why on earth would you think that?
And second, you also think - incoherently - that God does not exist.
So, er, you think the external world doesn't exist? Or do you not see the contradiction in your beliefs? — Bartricks
Cleary you don't have a clue what you're talking about.
You have said that you do not believe in God.
You have also said that you do not think that there could be any other explanation for the world apart from God.
So, you believe a contradiction. That's dumb. That is, you believe something - the world - exists and that it could only possibly exist if God exists, but you believe God does not exist. Jeez. Join. The. Dots. — Bartricks
Athena's personality is a very dualistic one. At times she exhibits a very masculine aura; at others, she is the vision of feminine loveliness. Her attitiude changes almost daily, depending on certain situations. She uses her wisdom to decide how she should react in a situation. Athena's duties are where she has earned her fame. Weaving and warfare are the areas where she excels above all others, except in the case of poor Arachne. As the goddess of wisdom, Athena displays her wisdom through various ways, especially in war, thinking out carefully who should win and then aiding them. But she is often confusing in how she can change her mind half way through, a characteristic that she is female. In all of these ways; her personality, duties, and wisdom, spread through endless tales, Athena became a three-dimensional character, forever changing as humans still do today. — Laurie Parrish, Lynette Delp, Alex Klinkhardt, Stephanie Palmer
But I don't believe God created the world we live in. It doesn't look like the kind of place an all-good person would create. But Christians typically do believe that God created the world. Why? — Bartricks
God created this world because he couldn't have done differently. — litewave
Not creating this world would be logically inconsistent — litewave
Then he wouldn't be omnipotent. God is by definition omnipotent. So God can do anything. That includes refraining from creating a world. — Bartricks
That's flagrantly question begging. — Bartricks
It gets worse, not only does omnipotence not positively imply that God created the world, omnibenevolence positively implies God did not create it. — Bartricks
But even an omnipotent being can't create a logically inconsistent object because such an object cannot exist, for example a square circle. — litewave
Reality must be logically consistent, which means that it cannot be what it is not. God's action is a part of reality, which means that God's action cannot be what it is not, and so if God creates a world he cannot not create it. — litewave
Then God creates the best worlds that are logically possible (consistent). — litewave
Yes they can. They can do anything, including things that violate the laws of logic. — Bartricks
Anyway, it's beside the point, for it is clearly not a violation of the laws of logic to refrain from creating something. — Bartricks
You've just said 'reality must be consistent......therefore God has created the world' — Bartricks
'If' God created a world, then he would create the best world. This isn't the best world, is it?! — Bartricks
There can't be such things. If there were, there wouldn't be. — litewave
No, I didn't. — litewave
I don't know. But maybe an omnibenevolent God would create top 10 best worlds and this is one of them? — litewave
If someone is omnipotent, they're able to do anything. If there was something they couldn't do, they wouldn't be omnipotent. — Bartricks
You said if God created the world, then God created the world. Er, yes. And? — Bartricks
Again, you don't seem to understand what the issue is. — Bartricks
But a square circle is not really something. It is nothing. In mathematics it is the content of empty set. — litewave
Everything that happens in reality, happens necessarily. God's free will is at best compatibilist because no other free will is coherent. — litewave
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