To better understand the system, what happens, particularly so with long time posters, is that a complaint is made, or a mod notices a problem, and we then read through the poster's comments and try to contextualize it. — Hanover
The person's response matters. We're not looking for groveling or even an apology, but really just an assurance the problem is taken care of. — Hanover
While you see that they were suddenly banned one day, what you didn't see was likely the weeks and/or months of repeated warnings, requests, and second, third, etc. chances that were repeatedly ignored by the poster. — Philosophim
Is that what happened in e.g. the last banning? — Amity
I see no reason why it would be different for the recently banned individual. — Philosophim
Olivier5 wasn't like Bartricks at all. — neomac
As you might imagine, defiance is the worst response, not because it might be insulting, but because it's a refusal to play by the rules. — Hanover
Jesus Christ, it really not that complicated. — DingoJones
People just don't seem to be able to resist the opportunity to be petty and vindictive. — T Clark
Agreed. But that doesn't seem to matter. Rules is rules.
As you might imagine, defiance is the worst response, not because it might be insulting, but because it's a refusal to play by the rules. — Hanover — Amity
what bothers me most is that posters, often including moderators, use the Bannings thread to shit on those who have been kicked out. It is unnecessary, unbecoming, and un-philosophical. People just don't seem to be able to resist the opportunity to be petty and vindictive. — T Clark
In any case, even if rules is rules, sanctions for transgression are discretionary. So admins can still reason on case by case basis, and proportion sanctions to the severity of the transgression, without denying a second chance for positive long-term contributors. — neomac
I'm not sure if the Banning procedure is stickied anywhere.
All the better for the sake of transparency and then there would be no need for a thread like this one. — Amity
Bans:
Admins have the right to ban members. We don't do that lightly, and you will probably be warned about your behaviour if you are under consideration for a ban. However, if you are a spammer, troll, racist or in some other way obviously unsuited to the forum, a summary ban will be applied. Bans are permanent and non-negotiable. Returning banned members will be rebanned.
Here's what is written in TPF Guidelines:
Bans:
Admins have the right to ban members. We don't do that lightly, and you will probably be warned about your behaviour if you are under consideration for a ban. However, if you are a spammer, troll, racist or in some other way obviously unsuited to the forum, a summary ban will be applied. Bans are permanent and non-negotiable. Returning banned members will be rebanned. — Amity
Yet a more flexible approach concerning the banning policy might still be more beneficial than a rigid one to this forum. — neomac
↪neomac
Not sure what a 'progressive banning' would look like :chin: — Amity
How about losing the ability to create threads as phase one. Then limiting number of daily posts to 1 as phase two. Lots of simple but fun ways that could be done. — Pantagruel
I'd question your use of 'subtle trolling' as I think the definitive characteristic of trolling is that it is intentional and premeditated.
— Pantagruel
I think subtle trolling can be premeditated, especially in heavily moderated forums. But I've noticed the seemingly oxymoronic phrase is now fairly commonplace out there. That said, I mean it as a challenging idea. And why should someone oblivious or sneaky, who can end up torturing someone for pages, be considered less a troll?
It's a bit like the topic of trolling [...] the bluntly and openly rude troll is fairly easy to deal with. It's all right there on the table. You know what is happening. — Bylaw
So yeah, obligation to treat others with respect is a fundamental part of philosophical discussion, otherwise the topic being discussed will never transform into new knowledge, it will just be a debate with fists that only solidifies the different opinions further into deep cognitive bias. — Christoffer
Think of tpf as a magazine or philosophical daily paper, staffed by volunteer contributors and volunteer editors. — unenlightened
Having said that, if someone wants to create a new account with a new email address its not that difficult, sure they have lost their philosophical history but it allows them to participate once again. A fresh start.
It's not like anyone can be permanently banned from contributing, it's account specific. — Benj96
Think of tpf as a magazine or philosophical daily paper — unenlightened
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