Right now I see a group of capoeira practicioners in the garden. It is a group with specific characteristics. And it seems to me that meaning for each one of them is increased when they share their own identity with each other, because they can see their own reflection on his and her friend that is practicing too. — oranssi
I like the graffiti metaphor. Sure, we might get lucky and have a rewarding interaction. But perhaps we mostly just want to scratch our version of events into the wall. I freely admit that I've been articulating the same basic ideas for years now here and there on the internets. Practice makes perfect. Sometimes I'm inspired by what I see as another's "error" (relative to my prejudices) and write when I otherwise might not. I've also "known" or believed for years now that there's a certain "aloneness" that "ought" to be embraced. Anyone (so runs my belief) with a sufficiently rich inner life is going to have incommunicable complexes of thoughts and feelings that no other human is likely to "get" in an absolutely satisfying way. Every once in a while, someone really shares an important "complex" with us, and that's a great intellectual joy. I'm presupposing that these "complexes" are big, beautiful thoughts or realizations. I don't bother to address the less than noble need to share "misery" complexes. I also write "complex" rather than thought because the feeling toward the thought is as important as the thought. Someone who blandly understands without passion doesn't really "get" it in a way that scratches the intense-for-some desire to share beautiful thoughts.So what makes these debates we have on forums of any value besides exposing our past experiences in indirect forms by talking about our opinions (or better said, preferences)? — oranssi
that I want to snort and stomp my hooves in the dirt as much as I want to share beautiful thoughts. A certain kind of hatred and suspicion is natural. Maybe we beat it back in the pursuit of this or that goal, but I think we have a tendency to articulate our superiority. — visit0r
Another way to put this question could be: why is there diversity amongst humanity in terms of ideas, and why do we adhere so much to one or two particular ideas?
I don't think that's how bias is defined: diverse ideas can be compatible and adherence to particular ideas can be uncontroversial.why is there diversity amongst humanity in terms of ideas, and why do we adhere so much to one or two particular ideas? — oranssi
They're valuable because they promote the consolidation and exchange of ideas but I too am disgruntled that they don't produce any dependable conclusions. And I think this has to do with the very bias of the debaters that don't seek any other conclusion than the confirmation of their particular ideas.So what makes these debates we have on forums of any value besides exposing our past experiences in indirect forms by talking about our opinions (or better said, preferences)? — oranssi
I'd argue that selfism is a biased worldview where you relate to none else.The explanation I came up with is that by confining appreciation to certain aspects that life experience gives, we can relate to alikes. — oranssi
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