Yes, which is why I dedicated an entire thread to it here. — Mikie
Suicides, drug overdoses, mass shootings. They call these “deaths of despair.”
People talk about mental health, and that’s true. It is indeed about mental health.
What’s also true is the widespread production and availability of opiates and guns. — Mikie
since other countries don’t have the mass shootings we do, despite the same problems with “mental health,” we should be emphasizing that. — Mikie
But then you sell your own and anyone else’s authority to the next political campaign. — NOS4A2
To argue that only those in power get to make rules is absurd. — NOS4A2
Your insistence on controlling people and restricting their rights ... — NOS4A2
You make rules for family. Very good. You can govern your own household. Except it doesn’t follow that you or anyone else ought to have the same authority of over people who are not your kin. — NOS4A2
rule of some people over others, what with politicians with constituents in the millions. — NOS4A2
restricting their rights — NOS4A2
You participate in the charades of the greatest monopolies known to history, and advocate for corporatism of the worst kind. — NOS4A2
An anarchist who whines about his rights. Who do you think will protect your rights?
It works against specific drugs, but because the root causes aren't addressed it's a matter of time before the next one comes along. The problem never truly gets solved. — Tzeentch
Yes we all know your tired, boring views on majoritarianism and general hatred of democracy in general. Has nothing to do with me.
So why, in a discussion about gun control, is it not OK to remind everyone that mental health (in the broad sense) is also a major factor. — Isaac
Insinuating that anyone talking about mental health is associated with NRA "talking points" just makes you look weak and doesn't help the argument at all. — Isaac
hostility — Tzeentch
Go on then, what do you believe that you know about me? — Tzeentch
You’re right, it’s just a complete coincidence that someone who continuously spews libertarian ideology just happens to want to talk about the “mental health” factor on a thread about gun control. — Mikie
I don't have particularly strong opinions on gun control in America, since I don't live in America. — Tzeentch
But you have an interest in American mental health huh? — Mikie
Given this, a truly impartial observer’s first question would be, “Why does America have so many mass shootings?” — Mikie
Certainly not the government. Neither of us can name one right in the Bill of Rights that has not been violated. So how can you trust that they will protect your rights? — NOS4A2
The best is the enemy of the good.
It's funny you're reacting with such hostility to the suggestion that mental health is an important aspect to this problem. — Tzeentch
I think if you had paid attention then the thin-veiled contempt wouldn't have gone over your head. — Tzeentch
I am down for any law that is just and protects the rights of the individual. — NOS4A2
Laws that protect the state, its own interests, or some other interest group are unjust and do not protect the rights of the individual. — NOS4A2
The majority of people favor gun control. — Fooloso4
Well, I never claimed I was a "truly impartial observer" - I just asked a question about mental health and why the subject seemed always conspicuously absent from these discussions, and was treated to your tirades — Tzeentch
I am down for any law that is just and protects the rights of the individual. — NOS4A2
Laws that protect the state, its own interests, or some other interest group [like the NRA] are unjust and do not protect the rights of the individual. — NOS4A2
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