The argument presented holds for divine absence and non-existence as well. — Fooloso4
Let's explore the complexities of divine hiddenness and its implications for human free will and moral growth together. — gevgala
Does heaven's lack of divine hiddenness imply the person will not be able to exercise their free will (are they now a robot?) and will not be able to grow morally? Or are they somehow magically transformed upon entrance to heaven so that they don't need to grow morally or exercise their free will? — Art48
Christian beliefs suggest that sincere repentance and faith in Jesus can lead to salvation and entrance into heaven, regardless of the timing of the conversion. — gevgala
I find lack of compelling reasons to believe in the proposition that god's exist and it seems to me that their absence or 'hiddenness' reinforces this. — Tom Storm
Christian beliefs suggest that sincere repentance and faith in Jesus can lead to salvation and entrance into heaven, regardless of the timing of the conversion. — gevgala
Very interesting question. First, it's important to clarify that the initial argument about divine hiddenness was focused on its role in fostering human free will and moral growth during our earthly existence. The nature of heaven and its impact on free will and moral growth may be significantly different from the conditions on Earth. While divine hiddenness may no longer be present in heaven, it does not necessarily imply the loss of free will or the cessation of moral growth. — gevgala
4. If human beings need the freedom to make morally good and morally bad decisions, then they must be allowed to exercise their free will without constant divine scrutiny. — gevgala
In the context of Christianity, Divine Hiddenness doesn't make sense. God is recorded in the Bible as directly intervening in human affairs, and even walking among men. Moreover, evidence for modern divine apparitions is entirely hearsay, no videos posted on YouTube. However, from a Cosmological perspective, a Creation (Big Bang) without a Creator, also doesn't make sense. So, the "hiddenness" of a creator for the creation is a valid point of philosophical curiosity, regardless of its religious implications.The question of divine hiddenness has long been a subject of debate in the philosophy of religion. In this post, I will present an argument in support of the idea that divine hiddenness serves a valuable purpose by allowing humans to exercise their free will and engage in meaningful moral growth. — gevgala
In this post, I will present an argument in support of the idea that divine hiddenness serves a valuable purpose by allowing humans to exercise their free will and engage in meaningful moral growth. — gevgala
:100: :lol:If God is anything like the ones depicted in the Judeo-Christo-Islamic doctrines, and if your proposition is correct, free will becomes impossible, as does moral growth.
Personally, I'm picturing a parent of small children who teaches them correct behaviour by watching through a one-way mirror as they kill one another. — Vera Mont
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