We all die and that is strangely satisfying for me :) — I like sushi
Even death has a bit of romantic vibes. — javi2541997
I'm not remotely close to having any expertise in linguistics, semiotics (a word I never heard untill I read it here a cooker months ago), meaning, or whatever. I don't even know what topic this falls under. But this just doesn't seem right to me. There are not characteristics of the inanimate that life lacks. I would think it's the other way around. The characteristics of life are absent in the inanimate. Inanimate is not animate.What does life mean? That something is not inanimate or dead. — Vera Mont
Wow, I view the idea of meaning in an extremely different way. Everything (we are aware of) in the universe exists simply as part of the cycle. Only we are above that. Only we get to have meaning, if we choose to.Does a lion search for a meaning to his life? Does a dolphin? Why should they? They are themselves, integral and complete, in harmony with their environment.
Only man has been diminished in his own eyes; made to feel insignificant and flawed. Told by 500 generations of prophets and philosophers that he is wanting, fallen short, fallen from a loftier position, and that the only way he can redeem himself is by dedicating his life to something greater than himself: a god, a liege lord, an empire, a noble cause, a brotherhood of warriors, monks or mobsters. His own little life is of no consequence: it is a conveyance merely, like a deed of sale or a summons, disposable once it's served purpose. — Vera Mont
The appearance of our consciousness and intelligence put us there. They make us the only known thing that conceives of these ideas. Someone conceived of the concept of meaning beyond the cycle of life and death. Now we can each decide the meaning for our lives, if we choose to. To our knowledge, nothing other than humans can do that.Everything (we are aware of) in the universe exists simply as part of the cycle. Only we are above that.
— Patterner
How did you climb above the universe? — Vera Mont
The appearance of our consciousness and intelligence put us there. They make us the only known thing that conceives of these ideas. Someone conceived of the concept of meaning beyond the cycle of life and death. Now we can each decide the meaning for our lives, if we choose to. To our knowledge, nothing other than humans can do that. — Patterner
Anybody/thing capable of understanding the concept is free to choose the meaning of their own life. — Patterner
I began to wonder, is this person getting some kind of kick out of simply trying to spread notions that life is not worth living? — universeness
I can see the possibility of choosing badly. Meaning regretting your choice. Hopefully, you aren't on your deathbed when this regret hits you. If you're not, then you can choose another meaning. You might make a choice you're happier with, having learned from your mistake.Anybody/thing capable of understanding the concept is free to choose the meaning of their own life.
— Patterner
i'm not sure if one's life meaning can necessarily be chosen. Do we really have that much agency? Many meanings we might choose will turn out to be false, and reveal themselves as such with hollowness and dissatisfaction. I would say, it must be discovered.
Some people will never discover theirs, or even may not have any. — hypericin
But it still must be chosen, don't you think? — Patterner
Indeed. Some might come to realize their decision was not too their liking. Or they might think it's shallow. Or whatever. And they might think more on it, and learn the kind of thing that is needed.But it still must be chosen, don't you think?
— Patterner
Yes, I think so. My point is that the act of choosing in itself is not enough. What is chosen must stand in some "meaningful" relationship to oneself, that I can't elucidate right now.
There are so many meanings, that more than merely "regretting the choice", are objectively wrong choices, in that they don't stand in this (for now, mystery) relationship with the chooser. For instance, the pursuit of money or fame cannot be the meaning of your life, no matter how earnestly chosen, if you are unfulfilled and haunted by precisely the thought that your life is meaningless. — hypericin
The form, in general, is that X means Y to Z.
but I suspect that when you say 'life', you are speaking personally, such that your formula is:– niki wonoto means "nothing" to @niki wonoto. — unenlightened
There is nothing to make a claim on them. — Leontiskos
A pure provocateur — universeness
Do you have more than rhetoric? — Leontiskos
Aye. — Leontiskos
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