"In light of the overwhelming and vital American support for the war effort and in light of US President Biden's demand for basic humanitarian aid, the reduced cabinet unanimously decided:
1 - Israel will not allow any humanitarian aid from its territory to the Gaza Strip as long as our abductees are not returned.
2 - Israel demands the Red Cross visits to our abductees and is working to mobilize extensive international support for this demand.
3 - In light of President Biden's demand, Israel will not thwart humanitarian supplies from Egypt as long as it is only food, water and medicine for the civilian population located in the southern Gaza Strip or moving there, and as long as these supplies do not reach Hamas. Any supplies that reach Hamas will be thwarted." — Manuel
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Earlier today I shared a report that was published on
@reuters
about the bombing at the hospital in Gaza which falsely stated Israel struck the hospital. I mistakenly shared this information in a since deleted post in which I referenced Hamas’ routine use of hospitals to store weapons caches and conduct terrorist activity. I apologize for this error.
As the IDF does not bomb hospitals, I assumed Israel was targeting one of the Hamas bases in Gaza.
It is known that Hamas is using civilians as human shields, it is a war crime and a crime against humanity. This should be the focus.
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1. Temporary ceasefire with immediate release of hostages to the Red Cross, will be followed by humanitarian aid convoy.
(then we will end the ceasefire and kill all Hamas members including civilian Minister of Economic Affairs etc, later. But don't put that in the press release) — FreeEmotion
2. Visit to abductees? This is not a tour of the Hollywood for God's sake, you want the Red Cross to see them alive, and then leave them, amidst heavy bombing? Where would these visits take place? On location? Maybe the Gaza hospital since either it has been bombed or will not be bombed by Israel. — FreeEmotion
3.President Biden's demand? Not based on humanitarian reasons that Israel, as a modern nation, affords? President Biden's "demand"
"as long as these supplies do not reach Hamas. Any supplies that reach Hamas will be thwarted"
No offence, but this strikes me as absolutely insane. How on earth is one to say these supplies will not reach Hamas?
What does this all mean? It all sounds like the nature of the entire Israeli military approach seems to be, as I made up my mind years ago is very 'heavy handed'. It has all the hallmarks of police brutality, in short. — FreeEmotion
I really like that 'President Biden's Demands' Says a lot — FreeEmotion
https://news.sky.com/story/israel-gaza-war-latest-hamas-palestine-sky-news-live-blog-12978800The US has an independent assessment that it was a Palestinian Islamic Jihad group rocket that misfired and hit the hospital in Gaza, two senior officials have told our US partner network NBC News.
It would match what Israel has said caused the blast.
Palestinian health officials and Hamas have blamed an Israeli airstrike for the explosion, which they said killed almost 500 people.
White House national security council spokesperson Adrienne Watson also told NBC News that US analysis of "overhead imagery, intercepts and open source information" suggests Israel is not responsible for the blast.
Well, then we have two USN carrier strike forces in the Mediterranean Sea ready to pounce the Hezbollah positions in Southern Lebanon. To help Israel, which cannot deal with far weaker enemies than before. :smirk:If he does go into Gaza, I don't see Hezbollah not acting. Maybe Iran too. That would be a disaster. — Manuel
But that's not actually the other side of the coin. It isn't either WW3 or this. It's either peace through deterrence or war. I'll try to explain what I mean here.They do and that strategy of being proportional with Iran is more levelheaded than a full out war. — Manuel
Or the simple fact they can do it. The US can strike at Soleimani as they can strike at various targets in the Iranian nuclear program. Yet an overall war isn't fruitful: trying to march to Teheran is beyond question. Yet the US won't take out a Russian general... or Putin. Then what they can do is to put them on a sanctions list or hope that the ICC takes attention of them.But I agree that in principle it is a sign of a lack of clear thinking from those involved. — Manuel
Well, now that there is more photos from the site, it seems that the explosion happened at the parking lot, which was full of people. People aren't excavated from under rubble as in many other videos from Gaza after obvious IDF attacks. Hence it seems that the hospital wasn't demolished. And the crater shown is quite tiny, which is quite similar to what rockets fired from Gaza typically leave behind. Also the cars in pictures are burnt, don't have markings of shrapnel. This leaves out the more powerful HE ordnance.Under the current circumstances, I doubt we'll be seeing evidence any time soon if ever. — Tzeentch
Just looking at the BBC report from the scene, I'm not seeing a big crater, and I'm not seeing lots of demolished buildings and damaged buildings. Rather it looks like a lot of people camped in the hospital courtyard, and a rather modest explosion in a crowded place. So it does rather look to me as if it was more likely a palestinian missile gone horribly wrong. — unenlightened
And yes, I think if this continues, others will get involved, Hezbollah and maybe Iran. It's a spine-chilling situation to find yourself in. — Manuel
But also the Israeli strategy of dealing with the insurgency by "mowing the lawn", simply having these military every now and then to decrease the ability of Hamas/Hezbollah/whoever simply creates this low intensity conflict, which once a while blows up like it has now. — ssu
I am going to assume it was an attack by Israel — FreeEmotion
I find it very depressing. The Israeli and Hamas governments have been very bad at PR, but good at killing civilians on the other side. To what end? If this was a direct democracy, what would have hapenned? — FreeEmotion
Which makes one question how moderate they are. — Manuel
My impression is that, when people are cool and level headed, they get along perfectly fine. It's when the state gets involved in matters, removed from direct control by the people, that these problems tend to arise of get magnified. — Manuel
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