I disagree.You are only as certain as how much you can convince yourself of certainty. — Beverley
I have had many border collies. They do all sorts of propositional things. Language is not required. The body and the now contain the message. — Chet Hawkins
You are as certain as you are terrified. Fear is the origin of the need for certainty. — Chet Hawkins
I love it! Now I want one! I'm getting too old to be punished by a rascal energetic tornado border collie. I love them, but they need open spaces and a job to do. I'm a master trainer (self-proclaimed) and my collies usually surpass that famous border collie that knows 200 objects. Try that and fifty verbs. But yeah, there is no low energy setting. This one STAYS at 11.I have had many border collies. They do all sorts of propositional things. Language is not required. The body and the now contain the message.
— Chet Hawkins
It seems to be correct that language is not required, but it is not by any means redundant. We have a little Kokoni. Chances are you have never even heard of her breed, but she is constantly mistaken for a miniature border collie. And the funny thing is that she herds as well. The kokoni is an ancient Greek breed of dog, bred for the aristocracy as lap dogs and to entertain the children of the aristocracy. There are pictures of them on ancient artifacts, and yet, for some odd reason, they are only recognized in Greece as a specific breed and nowhere else. They have long and extremely soft fur. Their bark is extremely loud for their size (kokoni in Greek means 'little dog') but they rarely bark. They take time to attach themselves to a human, but once they do, they will stay loyal for life. Their average lifespan is 16 years and they do not suffer any specific illnesses apart from teeth issues. They can be as active as you want them to be, meaning that if you want to play, they do too. But they can also curl up and sleep soundly next to you for hours. She is our little treasure that someone threw away in a dumpster when she was 2 years old. We are the luckiest people to have found her. (although I would for sure take away the fact that someone threw her away in the first place if I could)
Sorry to go on about our dog, but I couldn't help it. — Beverley
Yes, order is fear. So fear is all patterns. And the first fear is the primal pattern, fear of the unknown.You are as certain as you are terrified. Fear is the origin of the need for certainty.
— Chet Hawkins
I totally agree with this and have said this before. It makes sense to me. Certainty means security and predictability. But we have lived with uncertainty for a LONG time, but we seem to convince ourselves otherwise. As humans, we look for patterns in EVERYTHING, for the same reason: patterns represent predictability. However, I often think that patterns may be simply something we make up in our minds. — Beverley
I disagree with that. There are patterns and one of them is the purpose of perfection as a source of desire itself, the opposition force to fear, chaos.Maybe there are no patterns at all. — Beverley
We cling to the easy ones. It's effort to step into the unknown, harder, prone to cause suffering, and therefore MORE, not less, moral. We use the order of patterns only to inform those choices to hone them towards perfection.Maybe we just see them because it makes us feel more secure. But of course, I do not know for sure. — Beverley
I disagree with that. There are patterns and one of them is the purpose of perfection as a source of desire itself, the opposition force to fear, chaos. — Chet Hawkins
rascal energetic tornado — Chet Hawkins
Far from it.I disagree with that. There are patterns and one of them is the purpose of perfection as a source of desire itself, the opposition force to fear, chaos.
— Chet Hawkins
To me, this seems a little too black and white. — Beverley
I find that being comfortable with that aim is a desire side delusion. Fear will also participate though. You end up with a conspiracy for low aimed moral choice. Everyone excusing the gray areas without challenging them. The proper path is admission of failure and forgiveness, followed by a re-assertion of perfection as the only best aim.Could this not simply be another way of us trying to confirm certainty for fear of acknowledging the grey, in between, uncertain area of things? — Beverley
All final or perfect states are obtained in an infinite number of ways. It is that infinity of paths that seems to suggest the destination is not a single objective thing. But that suggestion is delusional in every way, and only the objective final aim is perfect.Maybe there is no either end: perfection or chaos. Weirdly enough, I suspect that perfection and chaos may be the same thing...if they exist. — Beverley
When I was younger it was THE thing for me. Border Collies! Accept no substitute! But I am of course in no way biased. ;)rascal energetic tornado
— Chet Hawkins
Aren't all dogs amazing!? But I may be a little exhausted trying to keep up with that... although I'd have a good try! — Beverley
"I am thinking therefore I exist,* was so secure and certain* that it could not be shaken by any of the most extravagant suppositions of the sceptics, I judged that I could accept it without scruple, as the first principle of the philosophy I was seeking.*" - Descartes
If you know something, then you know nothing is a contradiction.You know that you know nothing. Therefore you know something.
— Corvus
Therefore "I know that I know nothing" is incorrect, therefore I know nothing. — Lionino
"Trust yourself, you know more than you think you do."- Benjamin SpockKnowing is a delusion. Belief is all that we have. — Chet Hawkins
Analysing the vague and obscure use of words and expressions, and clarifying them is a part of philosophy.Playing word games with a word that has never really meant what people thought it means is not useful. — Chet Hawkins
Why would it be possible? Do you believe in Hinduism? Are you a Hindu follower?It's possible that I am a soul and my body is either a simulation or hallucination or dream or illusion. According to Hinduism we are souls who reincarnate according to karma in an illusion called the Maya. — Truth Seeker
If you are an agnostic atheist, then you could be a realist and possibly a materialist. Being a brute material realist would make things simpler. All there exists is matter and motion.I don't know whether souls exist or not. I am an agnostic atheist. — Truth Seeker
It is subjective experience itself. Think of it , it is a belief and it is justified. It is as simple as that. It is one part of it.Justified true belief? — Banno
That is an argumentum ad absurdum. Everything is based on the subjective experience. You don't know anything out of your subjective experience. Even every concept you know is bound to your own subjective experience. I answered your post because it is in field of experience. And i am subjectively experience this activity.Whatever "it" is. Our knowledge is not limited to subjective experience. For example, that you answered my post demonstrates that you know you are a participant in a social organisation that spans the globe... — Banno
That's much better than the incoherent claim that we know nothing, or its inane sibling, that there are no true statements. — Banno
One can't play chess without the certainty that one's opponent will keep their bishop on the same colour. — Banno
↪Gnomon
So you are certain of that formula? — Banno
Because it begins with a subjective guess, the calculation will never produce 100% certainty. Here's Bayes' formula in the form of an equation — Gnomon
"I am still so secure and certain that I think there exists life in Mars. Therefore life exists in Mars." — Corvus
More than anything, this is the key part:AT 9B. 7: ‘it is contradictory to suppose that what is thinking does not, at the very time when it is thinking, exist.’ Two other points emerge from this passage: the first step towards the cogito is in fact the dubio (‘I am doubting, therefore I am existing’). — Discourse on the Method Oxford World's Classics
Sobrou-lhe deste ato de generalização da dúvida apenas uma certeza, a de que o sujeito que duvida radicalmente não pode duvidar do ato de duvidar. E como o ato de duvidar é um ato de pensamento, ele extraiu a conclusão de que a proposição “Penso, logo existo” era verdadeira, constituindo um novo começo, o verdadeiro ponto de partida da filosofia. — Discurso do Método LP&M Editores
From this deed of generalising doubt there was only one certainty left: that the subject that doubts radically cannot doubt that he is doubting. And since doubting is a thinking action, he [Descartes] extracted the conclusion that the proposition "I am thinking there I exist" is true, the proper starting point of philosophy.
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