the belief that the best way of honouring the memory of those who died in Auschwitz is to condone the mass killing of Palestinians so that Israeli Jews can feel safe again is one of the great moral perversions of our time.
Reasonable grounds exist to believe that the unconditional support of the President of the European Commission to Israel – military, economic, diplomatic and political – has enabled war crimes and the ongoing genocide in Gaza, [...] — GIPRI
Just your daily reminder that Israel is fighting a humane war against a genocidal enemy — BitconnectCarlos
Strapped down, blindfolded, held in diapers: Israeli whistleblowers detail abuse of Palestinians in shadowy detention center
Strapped down, blindfolded, held in diapers
Do they also commit war crimes by using guns against Hamas? — BitconnectCarlos
10,000 dead — Mikie
Oh no and they restrain their prisoners? — BitconnectCarlos
They paint a picture of a facility where doctors sometimes amputated prisoners’ limbs due to injuries sustained from constant handcuffing; of medical procedures sometimes performed by underqualified medics earning it a reputation for being “a paradise for interns”; and where the air is filled with the smell of neglected wounds left to rot.
range from 2:1 to 9:1. — Benkei
But do you not realize the West is also institutionally racist and oppressive? Oppression and institutional racism are everywhere. They are charges that can be applied anywhere and every country is guilty of it. — BitconnectCarlos
Why do you consider intentional violence against civilians "resistance?" — BitconnectCarlos
I don't hate Israel. I'm anti- zionist. — Benkei
but at least pursues the ideal of non-discrimination. — Benkei
Never said that. I said that Palestinians have a right to violently resist their occupation but not all violence is permitted.
Do you believe in the preservation or destruction of the Jewish state? If you're an anti-zionist then you ultimately aim at it's destruction. I thought I remembered you saying that you were in support of 1967 borders, but perhaps that was just step one of dismantling Israel. — BitconnectCarlos
I would say Israel does pursue the ideal of non-discrimination. Israel has numerous laws that combat discrimination like any western nation. Israel's basic laws include a provision on equalityfor all citizens not just Jews. — BitconnectCarlos
So according to you then violence against legitimate targets, e.g. government forces, is sanctioned until 1967 borders are returned to? Or until Israel is dismantled? A commitment to 1967 borders would still make you a zionist as it would leave the Jewish state intact. — BitconnectCarlos
It pretends to broker a peace deal in order to placate US progressives, only to subsequently come up with excuses, to placate Israel and the US-Israel lobby. — Tzeentch
The US doesn't care about peace. The only thing it cares about is whether unconditional support for Israel blows back on Biden and ruins his chances at re-election. — Tzeentch
I'd say fears about a blowback are the reason why they're so eager for a deal. — Mr Bee
I believe that a state favouring one religion above others is inherently discriminatory and should progress into an actual democracy instead of the (Apartheid) ________ state it is now. The idea of a ("jewish") ________ state that favours (Jews as Jews) ________ is obviously wrong to anyone with a modicum of knowledge about human and civil rights. — Benkei
A deal right now would mean "Hamas won", Netanyahu would be chased out of office and probably jailed. Israel will have to live with its stained reputation for the foreseeable future and it will have nothing to show for it. — Tzeentch
Can be generalized some while remaining relevant: — jorndoe
Albanese is apparently a controversial figure. According to UN Watch ... — jorndoe
That's more Israel's problem, more specifically Netanyahu's. — Mr Bee
Same here. :up:I don't hate Israel. I'm anti-zionist. — Benkei
I'm too cosmopolitan and leftist to do anything but militantly oppose every ethnonationalist (and/or theocratic), war criminal state.Do you believe in the preservation or destruction of the Jewish state? — BitconnectCarlos
The patently false assumption here is that (post-1967 ethnonationalist) "zionism" is the only, or best, governing principle (i.e. ideology) for preserving and securing the State of Israel. Thus, your vapid and false dilemma, BC: support the elimination of either "all non-Jews" (Us) or "all Jews" (Them) from the river to the sea. No doubt I am all for the "destruction" of the right wing, AshkeNAZI-racist, apartheid, ethnic cleansing, colonizer-settler establishment in Israel beginning with the immediate and permanent cessation of ALL US-Nato military support for & economic aid to (including total economic boycott of) Bibi's mass murdering regime.If you're an anti-zionist then you ultimately aim at it's destruction.
The power of the US-Israel lobby makes it the United States' problem as well. — Tzeentch
I believe that a state favouring one religion above others is inherently discriminatory and should progress into an actual democracy instead of the Apartheid state it is now. — Benkei
That's like saying that the power of the oil lobby makes the green energy transition a problem for the US. The fact that there are lobby groups pushing an agenda in US politics doesn't make it our problem. That's just corruption. — Mr Bee
Is a state to promote a certain way of life at all? Or no -- should it stay completely neutral? If a state has a religious character that may be due to democracy; the people may have wanted it. I don't see democracy and a state promoting a certain way of life/ancestral traditions as inherently anti-democratic.
If Israel were to fall it would just become a Muslim state. To impose secularism on a religious population seems undemocratic. — BitconnectCarlos
It's not just majority rule; it's also respect of fundamental civil rights and the rule of law. — Benkei
BTW Greece does favor those with Greek ancestry for citizenship. — BitconnectCarlos
You don't seem to take notice of the inherent contradictions within this idea. What if the majority wants e.g. blaspheming Muhammad to carry a penalty? — BitconnectCarlos
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