Don't do that. Leave your hair uncoiffed. — frank

You are a wise man...a fount of wisdom

:lol:

There's a fair roundup over here, though the latest may not have made it in:
▸ Pfizer–BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine (Wikipedia)
Collaboration, mRNA/protein technology, etc.

FYI, for a simple overview, I think this will do:

Incidentally just scrolled by:

Comparison of mild physiological effects of surgical masks and N95 respirators over 60 min at rest
^{— Valerie C Cates, Anthony L Marullo, et al · Mount Royal University · Jul 5, 2023}

According to this research, masking up has inconsequential negative effects.

Study and media summary

The Effects of Nonpharmaceutical Interventions on COVID-19 Cases, Hospitalizations, and Mortality: A Systematic Literature Review and Meta-analysis
^{— James A Peters, Mohsen Farhadloo · American Journal of Preventive Medicine · Jun 14, 2023}

Montreal university study describes COVID-19 sanitary measures as 'generally effective'
^{— Laurie Trottier · CBC · Jan 21, 2024}

, instead of posting a 33m:12s youtube by Campbell showing a talk by Bridgen, why not post whatever studies Bridgen was referring to? (There are better sources than either, in any case.)

If you have Karenitus as comorbidity it's allegedly lethal by suffocation.

Once again, the lab leak. If only we would have used Occams razor, but no.



But, make it part of the culture war.. and it's just an opinion.

But how can this be? I thought this was a conspiracy theory!

When there's one lab in China working on the disease and then, it just happens to happen in that City, it's a questionable start. And then those who say the possibility of a lableak is TOTALLY IMPOSSIBLE have also links to the work in the lab...

Thus when those who are guilty are also the "experts" that are referred to answer what caused this, I imagine they have an incentive to deny any responsibility. These circles are tiny, I know this: my father was a virologist professor and these circles are small surprisingly small: the amount of scientist working on some speciality aren't counted in the thousands globally, but perhaps in a hundred or so globally forming the "cutting edge". He past away (not from COVID) and his fear was that it truly was a lab leak and what kind of effect would it have on medical research in general.

Perhaps only the Norwegians could have the integrity and honesty to admit that "Oops" and then pay from their Sovereign Wealth Fund billions and billions in lawsuits.

COVID-19 vaccines and adverse events of special interest: A multinational Global Vaccine Data Network (GVDN) cohort study of 99 million vaccinated individuals

^{— K Faksova, D Walsh, Y Jiang, J Griffin, A Phillips, A Gentile, J C Kwong, K Macartney, M Naus, Z Grange, S Escolano, G Sepulveda, A Shetty, A Pillsbury, C Sullivan, Z Naveed, N Z Janjua, N Giglio, J Perälä, S Nasreen, H Gidding, P Hovi, T Vo, F Cui, L Deng, L Cullen, M Artama, H Lu, H J Clothier, K Batty, J Paynter, H Petousis-Harris, J Buttery, S Black A. Hviid · Vaccine · Feb 12, 2024}

62-year-old manages to get a couple hundred shots over two and a half years...?
More than one a week on average?
Criminal charges weren't filed against him, though likely fraudulent.
Anyway, doctors studied him:

Scientists Studied Man Who Claimed To Have Had 217 COVID Shots. Here’s What They Found.
^{— Nina Golgowski · HuffPost · Mar 7, 2024}

There's a major OP in today's New York Times presenting evidence for a laboratory-based origin of COVID19. Authored by Dr. Alina Chan, a molecular biologist at the Broad Institute of M.I.T. and Harvard, and a co-author of “Viral: The Search for the Origin of Covid-19.” Gift link. I am still going through it, but most of the information it contains is new to me.

Previous review of the above author's claims, saying she has an ax to grind. The review in question is of a book she co-authored a couple of years ago. The reviewer calls into question some of Chan's key claims.

It's a highly technical subject. :fear:

And another

https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/covid-origin-wuhan-lab-leak-alina-chan-mit-harvard/

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There has been a lot of evidence supporting the lab leak theory for years, so much so that I figured it to be accepted fact by now. I guess I was wrong, and apparently this is still a surprise to people.

Given the fact that the US likely shared in responsibility through their funding of the very lab where Covid is said to have originated, it's rather rich they're now trying to shift all the blame on China.

And the cover-up attempt is still in full swing, by the way:

Fauci denies suppressing COVID lab leak theory before US House panel

Waiting for the next avian flu with all the cows infected in the USA. We can rename this thread to "avian flu" so it stays relevant.

If the lab leak theory is correct, which seems likely, then the US and China have the blood of millions on their hands. How exactly is that not relevant?

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I can see why you thought that was a reply to you but your post simply reminded me of my own big worry that the next avian flu pandemic seems to be right around the corner.

I haven't followed it closely recently. I do recall there was an original Lancet study that said it couldn't be engineered. That turned out to be false but was widely reported in the media which had many people dismiss the lab leak theory as unlikely (myself included, I thought 1% chance). Then the Lancet study turned out to be wrong and the lab leak became more possible. I still gave it lower odds because transmission at a wet market would be more likely than a lab leak, which would at least have some controls against transmission. I also thought we would never really find out because it's an intelligence issue and this information wouldn't be shared.

What new evidence was revealed that this is current?

Ah, gotcha.

Well, the interesting development is that big US media outlets are now pushing the lableak theory and seem to be pointing their arrows at China, even though the US has obviously been implicated as well.

It smells of the US trying to exculpate themselves, probably because evidence is starting to pile up in the background. (Some compilations of which were shared a few posts above)

I thought the smoking gun was the fact they found big jumps in the development of the Covid strain - gaps in the natural evolution process, so to speak - that are the hallmark of biological tampering. The phases of the evolution that can't be retraced are then thought to have been carried out in an isolated lab environment.

I just read the NY piece. Jaw dropping on various levels. I think the most important thing we (the Dutch) need to think about it how to include the risk we're being lied to next time something like this happens. What a difference it would've made if everybody knew this could've been specifically engineered to infect humans.

↪Apollodorus I wasn't aware it was still in doubt such research was done there. So nothing new to me at least. The second part I'll ignore at the useless speculations of a layman. Especially since actual experts now think it's more likely there is a natural origin instead of a lab leak based on the find in Laos. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02596-2

I suppose that's what you get from reading the Telegraph. :vomit: — Benkei

Well, that comment certainly didn't age well. Ouch. :chin:

We truly live in the most stupid timeline.

You really need to expound on that because I have no clue how to interpret that sentence!

Oh it's not an insult at you. I read the NY article. My post was just exasperation with how much of a clusterfuck reality is.

Pentagon ran secret anti-vax campaign to undermine China during pandemic

And somehow it just keeps getting worse. :lol: