Obviously you can't stop Trump from just throwing random bullshit out there, but that could at least be framed by consistent messaging. — Echarmion
But they did. — NOS4A2
People can openly express and complain about real issues, and then perpetuate them.
— creativesoul
I don't think you understand. He believes in authoritarianism. I get that you're not taking it seriously. I do, though. I don't think it's an act. — frank
No, they didn't. Clinton was presented information purported to establish a secret communications link between Trump and Russia's Alfa Bank. She approved the proposal to make this public. No one lied, they were simply mistaken.But they did. — NOS4A2
I don't know how you define governing, but he was governing before your post and during it, and is governing after your post. You achieved either a nos4 standard of nonsense, or maybe give a definition, and hopefully a definition that is not itself nonsense.beyond his ability to govern, which was lost some time ago. — AmadeusD
why the fuck a bunch of adult men pretending to do philosophy can't just be adults and humans about this type of thing is entirely unsurprising but disappointing nonetheless. — AmadeusD
Perfectly good definition.Governing is conducting policy and organisational aspects of policy and action of a given entity (in this case, the USA). It is not my definition, but thank you for the stark illustration. — AmadeusD
Great! When? Evidence - how do you know? I ask because either you're right or you're remark is toxic, to put it as nicely as I can.no real opinion on Biden beyond his ability to govern, which was lost some time ago. — AmadeusD
By, i would imagine, being much more than shallow, biased, media-driven versions of his personality and life presented to you. — AmadeusD
If Vance actually graduated, what's curious to me is how the hell did his dumbass get out of Yale? — 180 Proof
Great! When? Evidence - how do you know? — tim wood
either you're right or you're remark is toxic — tim wood
The media hasn't presented him as shallow and biased. — frank
This is the hill he's willing to die on: Democrats don't have children. In other words, he's no where near as bright as we expected him to be when he was chosen. — frank
If Vance actually graduated, what's curious to me is how the hell did his dumbass get out of Yale? — 180 Proof
That is literally all i have read about the guy - he's hypocritical and incredibly biased in (essentially) bigoted ways; that he is incapable of carrying the mantle of VP or P as a result of his political leanings and inability to reach/speak to/engage with Women, POC and other Minorities. Every article that has come across any of my SM or non-social media has been either a comedic attack or a "He's going to be the end of America" type of nonsense.
And definitely some of those earlier claims are true - his PR skills are terrible. But to take all of this serious to judge him as a human being, based on this source of information, is bizarre. The film, btw, has been universally panned by all non-right-wing media for roughly these reasons (you can tell, because Close and at times Adams are praised as "despite" the film lol which might be fitting). — AmadeusD
Well no, this is the unchartiable, childish and ultimately misleading version of things the media likes to put out. His claim isn't "democrats don't have children" anymore than "deplorables" was an actual claim to be applied to every Republican or MAGA-adjacent person. It clearly wasn't, and Hilary unfairly suffered for her lack of precision imo. I wouldn't call the current situation 'unfair' because you're right, he's had several chances to even back out of that thing - but the same mechanisms are at play. They want you angry and incredulous. I'm not really defending him, to be clear. I don't know him. I'm aware he's an awful politician and it's a shame he's running with Trump, amongst all else to deplore there. But it truly is bizarre to see the exact same industry being treated completely differently when they spin different sides of the same coin (i,e two-party politics/politicians) - particularly when I know most of the posters here are far, far more intelligent than to allow what is clearly, and inarguably an industry which does not thrive on accuracy, truth or verdicality but clicks and views. — AmadeusD
Your remark was categorical. As such subject to question. Biden may not be the man he used to be - none of us are. But he is still the man he needs to be with room to spare. And I notice you evade my questions, a characteristic of the toxic poster.Have you been paying attention to his campaign (previously), his continually declining abilities and acknowledgement of such all and sundry? — AmadeusD
You have to be a special kind of stupid to think you'd have a clue, and that your opinion is anything more than your bias writ large. Perhaps it just hurts that you did not? — AmadeusD
there seem to be situations where otherwise intelligent people are incapable of seeing flaws in certain political positions. And that is of course assuming the positions are held in good faith and not the result of entirely different motivations. — Echarmion
The problem with saying the 'bias' is doing the talking is that it dispenses with other peoples' views a priori. — Paine
The problem with saying the 'bias' is doing the talking is that it dispenses with other peoples' views a priori.
— Paine
This is certainly true - I think all we can do to counteract is point out inconsistencies in approach. LIke trusting the media one way, but not the other. — AmadeusD
JD Vance Just Blurbed a Book Arguing That Progressives Are Subhuman
“Unhumans,” an anti-democratic screed that far-right provocateur Jack Posobiec co-wrote with the professional ghostwriter Joshua Lisec, comes with endorsements from some of the most influential people in Republican politics, including, most significantly, vice-presidential candidate JD Vance. ...
The word “fascist” gets thrown around a lot in politics, but it’s hard to find a more apt one for “Unhumans,” which came out last month. The book argues that leftists don’t deserve the status of human beings — that they are, as the title says, unhumans — and that they are waging a shadow war against all that is good and decent, which will end in apocalyptic slaughter if they are not stopped. “As they are opposed to humanity itself, they place themselves outside of the category completely, in an entirely new misery-driven subdivision, the unhuman,” write Posobiec and Lisec. ...
“Unhumans” lauds Augusto Pinochet, leader of the Chilean military junta who led a coup against Salvador Allende’s elected government in 1973, ushering in a reign of torture and repression that involved tossing political enemies from helicopters. ...
Vance provided the first blurb on the “Unhumans” book jacket. “In the past, communists marched in the streets waving red flags. Today, they march through H.R., college campuses and courtrooms to wage lawfare against good, honest people,” he wrote. “Jack Posobiec and Joshua Lisec reveal their plans and show us what to do to fight back.” — NY Times
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