When it comes to the history of Syria and Lebanon, the French have been major influencers. Just like the British had a role with Mandate Palestine played a role in the conflict this thread is about.The French? Haha. — Tzeentch
You of course don't even notice that what you are promoting here, that "Israel is doomed" is a talking point of the islamofobes on the right.Zzz....Baseless insinuations of racism reeks of intellectual exhaustion and doesn't bode well for whatever else you have to bring to the table. — Tzeentch
Ummm... if a gun has an effective range of 2000 meters, the it can shoot 2000 meters forward and 2000 meters back. Guns, especially AAA can traverse 360 degrees. :snicker:No, they wouldn't. — Tzeentch
:rofl: :rofl: :joke: :razz: Have you any idea of the utter crazyness you are saying???AAA relies on line-of-sight, and engaging targets at equal elevation rarely happens at ranges exceeding 2 kms simply because of geographical factors. — Tzeentch
When it comes to the history of Syria and Lebanon, the French have been major influencers. Just like the British had a role with Mandate Palestine played a role in the conflict this thread is about. — ssu
You of course don't even notice that what you are promoting here, that "Israel is doomed" is a talking point of the islamofobes on the right. — ssu
Ummm... if a gun has an effective range of 2000 meters, the it can shoot 2000 meters forward and 2000 meters back. Guns, especially AAA can traverse 360 degrees. :snicker: — ssu
Do you have any idea of the curvature of the Earth? Have you ever been outside and measured distances? If you are next to the sea and let's say you are at 2 meter height, the horizon is then at 5 kilometers. But anything higher than on the surface of the water, you will see further. And obviously AAA are deploy in places they can see in the air. In fact, in aerial engagements it's extremely typical that targets are engaged (or could be engaged) in longer distances than 2 kilometers. By NATO standards weapon systems having only 2-3 kilometers of range are described "very short range".
And the simply fact is that drone do not huge literally the ground...only when they have wheels, but then they aren't airborne. Anyway, you have no idea what you are talking about, so just change the subject. — ssu
Don't you remember that even Hamas itself acknowledged that there were "some faults" on attacking civilians? Yep, even they admitted it: — ssu
A large portion of the world sympathizing with it and even considering it justified? Really???? — ssu
Indeed. Yet annexing territory is one of the most difficult things for any state to get acceptance from other states. Just look at the response of Russia annexing parts of Ukraine. Or Morocco with Spanish Sahara. — ssu
That is cause for worry. — BitconnectCarlos
Since 1967 the US/Nato-backed, land-thieving colonist-settler oppressor regime is "threatened" by the apartheid-brutalized oppressed whom the oppressor regime systematically slaughters and further displaces with indiscriminate collective punishment for "terrorism" by violent religious extremists (i.e. Islamists? Zionists?) ... backed for decades by the oppressor regime in order to preserve the "threat" by preventing – eliminating the possibility of – a "Two State" peace. History teaches: more often than not, oppressors with everything to lose by continuing to oppress have much more to "worry" about than the oppressed with nearly less than nothing to lose – e.g. Rhodesia, Vietnam, Algeria, South Africa, Saint-Domingue, Cuba, Eritrea, N. Ireland, etc – from the river to the sea! :fire:That is cause for worry. — BitconnectCarlos
backed for decades by the oppressor regime in order to preserve the "threat" by preventing – eliminating the possibility of – a "Two State" peace. — 180 Proof
It's naturally not an apology. But it was an admission that civilians were killed. But hardly they feel or have anything to apologize given the multiple amount of dead Palestinians.Hamas's apology for 10/7 is absurd. — BitconnectCarlos
Don't go all in with the culture war discourse and put your brains out on the shelf. It is as silly as the talk from leftists about Trump supporters the racist alt-right neonazis.Hamas support is surprisingly present on college campuses, particularly elite universities. That is cause for worry. Hamas support/sympathy is more popular with the youth. Our future leaders. — BitconnectCarlos
Two states does not bring peace — BitconnectCarlos
those holding Palestinian flags aren't supporters of Hamas. — ssu
The first thing that needs happen is for Israel to stop its belligerent occupation of Gaza and the West Bank. Until that happens, Hamas is simply a resistance movement that is reacting to being occupied by Israel. Armed resistance isn't even forbidden under such conditions according to international law, and Israel, being the occupier, cannot legally claim self-defense. — Tzeentch
If they are truly supporters of Hamas, then they should at least have the proper flag:
Yet if the question is that if they sympathize with the Palestinian people, it's the culture war bullshit to say then that they sympathize with Hamas.
It is as silly as the talk from leftists about Trump supporters the racist alt-right neonazis.
But feel free to swim in it if you want. Yes, your future American leaders worship Hamas. How could they do anything else?
Then shouldn't they show the flag, march in step in what they believe?This is debatable though: — neomac
Hezbollah is different. It's been the Palestinians, PLO before Hamas, that has used traditional terror tactics. I think the only accusation to Hezbollah has been the attack on Khobar Towers in 1996, which the US holds to be an Hezbollah / Iranian-backed attack. Yet Hezbollah in Lebanon was formed in response of the Israeli occupation of Southern Lebanon and mainly it has been fighting the Israeli armed forces. And of course there is the Shia Sunni divide between Hamas and Hezbollah.Hezbollah's flags look more popular: — neomac
Clearly sympathizes?Israel clearly sympathizes with the Palestinians as they just conducted polio vaccines there. — BitconnectCarlos
I recal them saying that Gaza is an evil city. — ssu
Clearly sympathizes?
Are you serious?It doesn't make sense that Gaza is reliant on Israel for food. Can't they make their own? Same with water. It's not expensive to provide. — BitconnectCarlos
This is debatable though: — neomac
Then shouldn't they show the flag, march in step in what they believe? — ssu
And your video is a perfect example of the media bias ...this example on the right-wing side. Are the demonstrators really celebrating Hamas, as the interviewer says? Celebrating Hamas? And the decapitated babies rumour? Still going on?
God I hate this stupidity. — ssu
...just like the interviewer with her own political bias.They all are part of the same political game, — neomac
In their own making in the way that they've been on a losing side of a war with Israel, that is true.A prison of their own making formed through their own fanatical commitment to destroying their stronger neighbor. — BitconnectCarlos
Sorry, but Gaza is really an open air prison
...just like the interviewer with her own political bias. — ssu
I am definately sure that those American students who protest for Palestine are far more protesting for the end of the conflict and for an independent Palestine (with the Apartheid system ending) than supporters of the armed branches of the Palestinians in a way that would put them on a terrorist watch list. — ssu
In their own making in the way that they've been on a losing side of a war with Israel, that is true. — ssu
Really? My quick online research shows just the opposite. Perhaps you can direct me to sources that will make clear that they have changed. Of course, if they have, that makes 7 Oct. even less comprehensible.Never mind that this has not been the position of the PLO and hasn't been the position of Hamas for years. — Benkei
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