Language games do not involve only words. They are locked into the world by what we do. So fortunately or unfortunately, you are not mere words. — Banno
We can agree that the statue is beautiful for you while I find it only curious. — Banno
The reason our little notes on perception always center around red is that it's associated with a close to universal feeling: it's hot. Red comes from mind meeting world. — frank
Sorry - is your claim now that pain is also a fiction? :chin: — Banno
My claim is that pain and colour are sensations, and the fiction is that colour is not a sensation but a property of the ball.
Perhaps we would be able to numb the sensation of color like we could the sensation of pain, and see the world how it really looks. — NOS4A2
Is the world outside your head without color in your view? — NOS4A2
You are not following what I've said. My point is only that perception is a mental construct. — Hanover
People with complete achromatopsia are not blind.
For example, is the grey of a ripe tomato distinguishable from the grey of an unripe tomato? I don't know, but it would surely be more difficult than distinguishing a red tomato from a green tomato. — wonderer1
Those who see red and green as grey ARE picking between the same apples. — creativesoul
There is a reason why the word "naïve" is used to describe naïve realism. The person holding this view is like an ignorant child rejecting higher education. — Metaphysician Undercover
In the philosophy of perception, 'naive realism' is the name for the idea that the relation between observer and object is direct. — jkop
A realist account of perception will have to consider what the agent themselves brings to the encounter in terms of subjectivity, context, history, affordance, cultural sediment etc. — Bodhy
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