Well I was always a fan of your hair-brained mystical pseudo-philosophy, so that's not much of a change for me :PMaybe ya'll will finally come around to all of my hair-brained mystical psuedo-philosophy now that I've proved my supernatural powers... :P >:O — Noble Dust
Conservatives want things like reduced spending for ideological reasons. I would want them for practical reasons. — WISDOMfromPO-MO
Thorongil and Augustino said racist things and stood by them. So, I correctly called them "racists." Since you have a problem with that, I'm glad you don't want to be like me; I certainly don't want to be like you. — Thanatos Sand
I showed very well the racist things they said and why they were so. — Thanatos Sand
If you didn't see them, you either read the thread poorly — Thanatos Sand
or share their racist views and are racist, yourself. — Thanatos Sand
Either way, I'm not impressed. — Thanatos Sand
I don't understand how you can say that a conservative view of spending is ideological and whereas your view is practical. Can you explain? — praxis
The progressive/liberal labeling means so little these days. I'd like to think that I'm both a liberal and a progressive, like an FDR or Woodrow Wilson, but not like a Clinton or a Sanders or a Thanatos "you're a racist!" Sand. Strangely, I'd argue that even the conservatives of a hundred years ago were closer in political philosophy to their liberal counterparts than liberals today are to liberals then. — Buxtebuddha
Want some vanilla ice-cream? >:OI showed very well the racist things they said and why they were so. — Thanatos Sand
Doing good financial housekeeping and eliminating unnecessary expenses... — WISDOMfromPO-MO
Since when is maintaining a lean budget an ideological position? — WISDOMfromPO-MO
Can you illustrate that?
What is a concrete example of a conservative and liberal then being closer than a liberal then and a liberal today? New Nationalism vs. New Freedom? — WISDOMfromPO-MO
I believe it's debatable what constitutes necessary and unnecessary, and that the determining factors center around personal and cultural values. Norwegians, for example, apparently believe that universal healthcare and free higher education is necessary... — praxis
Since your ideal of a lean budget first sprang to life, I imagine. — praxis
You mean eliminating from budgets unnecessary expense like useless printer paper is my original idea? — WISDOMfromPO-MO
If someone strives to maintain a lean budget then clearly their ideal is a lean budget... — praxis
If you're still not sure where you sit on the liberal/conservative spectrum you might try a test like this one.
Judging by the things you've said in this topic I'd guess that you're a bit left of center. — praxis
If ideals are to be found anywhere it would be in the desired ends, such as good financial health. — WISDOMfromPO-MO
To me governing would be about identifying problems that can be solved and then using my authority to marshal and mobilize resources to find and implement solutions to those problems. I would be a facilitator living on the same level as the people I am serving and working with them on practical matters, not someone with privilege overseeing his subjects from above and producing top-down policy in conformity with theoretical language embedded in some ideology. — WISDOMfromPO-MO
I believe the U.S. is currently far too polarized but that's no reason to ignore our own values, even if that were possible.I try to not even think in terms of the binaries that things like that [Political Typology] test do. — WISDOMfromPO-MO
A lean budget or good financial health do not in themselves express good leadership or a healthy populace... — praxis
I would be looking for ways to cut costs, cut waste, cut spending, reduce debt, etc., so I doubt that any conservative would play the "unregulated free market" card against me. — WISDOMfromPO-MO
I suppose my general point is that these issues are not straightforward or even particularly rational because people are not particularly rational... — praxis
I believe the U.S. is currently far too polarized but that's no reason to ignore our own values, even if that were possible. — praxis
There's a difference between a leader and a facilitator. A leader may have a vision and a plan for a better future and have the capacity to rally support for that future. A facilitator might merely facilitate whatever vision or plan the emergent leader (in the absence of one a leader always emerges) provides. That plan could be great and lead to a better future for the people, or it could simply be the clandestine acquisition of personal wealth and power. — praxis
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