Hello Michael, if that is even your real name. It is clear that you DO NOT understand America. Please DO NOT comment on matters you do not understand. The REAL President, DONALD J TRUMP is making the microphone stand GREAT AGAIN. You are currently spreading FAKE NEWS by immigrating your lies across our borders.

Yay! Let's go take over a government building!

Some of the posters held at the Women's March in DC today:

"We need a leader not a creepy tweeter."

"Uncle Sam stay outta my clam."

"Roe, Roe, Roe your vote."

"No sex with men until Roe comes back."

"Grab him by the ballot."

"Sometimes you gotta flush twice."

I see that election campaigns bring out the creative spirit of voters. :smile:

I don't think Trump is viewing himself as a fascist, I think fascism is the result of his views.

Trump’s opponents never accepted the 2016 election, therefor they had fascists tendencies, like Hitler. Trump joked he was going to be a dictator, therefor he’s going to be a dictator. This is the level of reasoning over in clown world.

Trump’s opponents never accepted the 2016 election, therefor they had fascists tendencies, like Hitler. — NOS4A2

You are mistaken. Hillary Clinton conceded defeat and never attempted to overturn the election. To some degree, she was being a sore loser when she labeled Trump's election "illegitimate", but she at least had a rational basis for her claim: Russia helping Trump, and Comey hurting her chances. These things actually occurred, although it's impossible to know their impact.

By contrast, Trump's claim that he was cheated is based entirely on falsehoods - falsehoods that he actively drummed into his supporters. Trump lied about fraud, lied about what people said to him about fraud, and he pressured others to lie - in an active attempt to overturn the legitimate election. So to equate the two is absurd.
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Please just stop. Your constant attempts to rewrite things into Trump's favor borders on plain desinformation. I'm amazed that you haven't been banned yet because of this constant bs spamming, but I guess it's the lounge so anything kind of goes. But just so you know, outside of this, I'm not engaging with your posts. So you know you're wasting time with replying to me.

Understandable. No one would want any criticism of routine nonsense.

If you look back on the comments, there is much litigation of the past but very little hope for a future. He could be making fun of trump or serving him.

That is why he is still around.

Edit to add: Too speculative and ad hominem.

You are pointing the finger at me.

Any contradicting proves me right.

5Roevember24 :victory: :mask:

YOU WILL GO TO PRISON, DIAPER DON – your sentencing in NYC is scheduled for 26 November. More state indictments pending. Federal trials will resume next Spring. Appeals of both civil judgments in NY will fail also by Spring 2025. No doubt your knuckle-dragging, gun-happy cult of MAGA morons (wannabe "brown shirts") will fuck around and find out (I suspect "Dark Brandon" – fortified by SCOTUS' wingnut "presidential immunity" – will not show much mercy if it comes to that). Karma. :fire:

Wishful thinking? TBD.

The most serious threat to his freedom will be the trial over his election fraud. I've been following that one closely:

DONALD J. TRUMP, did knowingly combine, conspire, confederate, and agree with co-conspirators, known and unknown to the Grand Jury, to defraud the United States by using dishonesty, fraud, and deceit to impair, obstruct, and defeat the lawful federal government function by which the results of the presidential election are collected, counted, and certified by the federal government.

-full text of the indictment

By comparison, the NY conviction is minor. The fraud he committed is almost on par with treason.

:up:

Which pill did they take, the blue pill, or the red pill?

And this thread CONTINUES!!!!

Even if seven years ago Trump was already the President, so it's not the beginning of Trump talk.

Trump II will likely be in some ways different from Trump I.

How? That's the interesting question.

I've been holding my breath for 4 years to tell you, I told you so!!!!

It is official. He just won Wisconsin.

Ready for Trump 2.0.?

@NOS4A2, how do you feel right now after defending him for four straight years?

https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/945232

:cry:

Ready for Trump 2.0.? — javi2541997

We don't know what that means. It could either be four years of non-stop clowning, with policies that just create chaos and a big pile to clean up for democrats in 2028.

Or he'll do by his word and play dictator. If so, I wonder how long it will take until politicians, even within his own party, will start to try and remove him. I mean, democrats can't do shit now, both the house and senate are there for him. And since the justice system have ruled a president can do whatever the fuck he wants, he can basically do what he wants.

In that case it will be interesting to see how long it will take before the more normal voters who voted for him will regret their vote... just like voters of Brexit now regret their vote.

Will it be when they realize that his tariffs will fuel inflation even more? When the cost of living skyrockets because more goods than they think are imported rather than domestic? And that the industry of building up industries in the US will not only force people off their lands to make space, take time to build up and still produce goods that are much more expensive than imported goods ever was?

And what will all of that do to the national dept? With the even further risk of the nation defaulting? Will he do a little dance on stage, fellate the mic and tell everyone that it is the "best default in history, not gonna lie, it is simply the best!"

Most people voted for Trump because of the economy. That's the level of stupidity here. And his voters are probably gonna feel the consequences the most.

What happens when enough people feel betrayed and let down by someone who promised them utopia? When the sand castle crumbles and he continues to dance on the ruins?

When people speak of the possibility of assassination. It is a highly likely possibility now. If there were attempts before the election, just imagine where we're going. And I don't think it will be anyone on the political left.

It will be a lone man on the right, who blindly believed in Trump but when he didn't fix the economy as he said he would, when he didn't make America great again and this man lost his marriage, his job to Musk's robots or extreme costs of production and all medical help is gone to treat his newly found tumor. He'll take the last bit of money he has left and buy an AR15 at a supermarket, with discounted armor piercing bullets and find a comfortable spot to die in, somewhere with a good line of sight.

The sociological mechanics and psychology of people that regret their vote can be dramatic. But Trump will only manage to hold onto these four years by not changing too much and mostly just clown around. If he starts to make drastic changes to the US, I don't see how else this will go.

I have a hard time seeing the people accepting changes that very well uproots the foundation of the US. It's either clowning around for four years, an assassination or a civil war. Those are the three paths. The fourth would be managing to fuck foreign policy so much that it ignites a larger war... or maybe that's exactly what's needed to teach the gullible voters how stupid they are? When their children are drafted into death by a clown.

Wishful thinking? TBD. — 180 Proof

Damn. I was very wrong. :zip:

I’m feeling pretty good about it. I overestimated the effects a corrupt press has on public opinion and figured Harris would win, or they’d kill him, so was pleasantly surprised to learn otherwise.

DJT is vox populi! — 180 Proof

they’d kill him — NOS4A2

Via inept SS?

Looking forward to coming back to this thread in four years and magically, the US will be fine.

I mean, democrats can't do shit now, both the house and senate are there for him. And since the justice system have ruled a president can do whatever the fuck he wants, he can basically do what he wants. — Christoffer

If the great orator would have actual leadership qualities, that could be the outcome. But this is Trump, you have to remember. The likely outcome is that the administration will have meager results in advancing it's policies simply because of Trump himself. The last year of the previous administration is in my view telling about what Trump II administration will be. First of all, Trump will likely appoint yes-men and then get unsatisfied with their inability to get things done. Hence the Trump administration can continue to be a place where people go in and out. I assume Trump has lost his love affair with appointing military personnel into positions.

Project 2025 clearly has things that Trump wants (or Republicans in general want) to do, yet here again things will be difficult for Trump. Perhaps he can indeed finish the Border wall. But doing away with federal departments or reorganizing the FBI isn't likely going to happen. Besides, being back in the limelight is the real thing for Trump, he actually isn't ideologically motivated or committed to a real fight with the bureaucracy. Just as last time, declaring to "drain the swamp" is enough for him.

Where Trump will focus is on his relationship with the media and at all the "pressing issues" that and next crisis that lands at his table tomorrow and the day after that. This usually consumes every President, but likely will consume all of Trump's focus ...if there's something to focus on else than his own image.

And perhaps the media simply won't give him the attention that he desires. The simple reason is that we have already been here, we know what Trump is like and what a Trump administration is like. Hence there isn't going to be this outcry and especially not the kind of outrage that we saw the first time Trump was in office. Did the mass deportations start at the first day of the first Trump administration? Nope. Will they start now? Nope, how could they?

Looking forward to coming back to this thread in four years and magically, the US will be fine. — AmadeusD

Depends how you define fine. With every president since George Washington, things have been fine, I guess. And I guess we likely won't have a nuclear war between China and the US, so guess everything is fine then... in four years.

Ar-Pharazon the Golden

I think Trump may have won on policy. I'd be interested in what persuaded you.

I think Trump may have won on policy. — bert1

This policy?



https://x.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1854164649433858119

Now that the election is over I think we can finally say that yeah actually Project 2025 is the agenda. Lol — Matt Walsh