"You may have noticed that Thanatos imagines himself to be the Defender-Of-Science."
You may have noticed that Michael Ossipoof is making lame personal attacks, which makes him a troll. — John Harris
...wanting to apply science outside of its legitimate range of applicability--the workings of this physical world and the interactions of its parts.
...trying to make science into a metaphysics, or even a religion.
I never did either of these things, and Ossipoff the troll didn't show I did.
if the soul is natural, it would have been detected by now. There's just no chemical entity/human part that could escape sciences exhaustive means of detection. — Thanatos Sand
Scientists have done a pretty good job explaining matter and energy and explaining how that's all the universe is made of, with dark and anti- matter being material forms. — Thanatos Sand
Rejecting a notion that hasn't been supported by science or the laws of physics, and is undercut by all we know of those things, isn't mechanical thinking, but rational thinking. — Thanatos Sand
Except when a pseudoscientist like Thanatos gets on the subject, and seems to believe that they have metaphysical authority. — Michael Ossipoff
Its a nice idea Cav, but if the soul is natural, it would have been detected by now. There's just no chemical entity/human part that could escape sciences exhaustive means of detection. — Thanatos Sand
Because Christ doesn't exist. And that's it, metaphysician. Your arguments have gotten so silly that i'm not going to waste my time engaging them anymore. I won't be reading any more of your posts. — John Harris
That's a hilarious example of trying to apply science outside of its legitmate range of applicability
Its a nice idea Cav, but if the soul is natural, it would have been detected by now. There's just no chemical entity/human part that could escape sciences exhaustive means of detection.
— Thanatos Sand
First the discussion is about the possibility of soul being natural, and then you jump to the idea that it is chemical? Sure.
Also, there are stars, planets and moons we haven't found, does this mean they are supernatural or don't exist?
Because Christ doesn't exist. And that's it, metaphysician. Your arguments have gotten so silly that i'm not going to waste my time engaging them anymore. I won't be reading any more of your posts.
— John Harris
Quite an assumption.
The only one nitpicking, and erroneously, is you. If you think I'm wrong, name one natural entity that isn't chemical. We both know you can't.John Harris Everything chemical is natural (within the context, to stop any nit picking beforehand), but not vice versa.
I don't recall anyone saying that soul couldn't be found, you just jumped to the conclusion that it hasn't been found and therefore can't be found.
If you start with the premise that Christ doesn't exist - against which I won't argue because it's irrelevant - your comparison isn't a valid one.
Also any claim is an assumption until proven and as there is no consensus on His existence you can't claim your stance to be a fact.
John Harris Thanatos Sand didn't 'forget your password.' Thanatos Sand is banned, 'John Harris' is a sock puppet account, you're a troll, pure and simple, nobody here ought to respond to your posts, until you're banned again, which is imminent.
The only one nitpicking, and erroneously, is you. If you think I'm wrong, name one thing natural that isn't chemical. We both know you can't. — John Harris
I said it and someone responded to that. So, the only one jumping to conclusions--and is clearly just trolling now--is you. — John Harris
Of course it's valid and you haven't shown it isn't. So, the only one making assumptions, and erroneous ones, is you. — John Harris
The only one nitpicking, and erroneously, is you. If you think I'm wrong, name one thing natural that isn't chemical. We both know you can't.
— John Harris
Are hypothetical examples ok? If not, I could take anything from the fields of social sciences which you can theoretically explain with chemistry but no one does for obvious reasons.
I said it and someone responded to that. So, the only one jumping to conclusions--and is clearly just trolling now--is you.
— John Harris
So you made a false assumption and everyone else made the mistake of not noticing it and attacking other parts of your arguments. The point still stands, "hasn't been found" does not equal "can't be found".
Of course it's valid and you haven't shown it isn't. So, the only one making assumptions, and erroneous ones, is you.
— John Harris
The comparison between two things of which one exists and other one doesn't is not a valid one, shouldn't that be obvious? You can't take it as a premise that soul doesn't exist either.
Natural entities arent' hypothetical examples, you know that perfectly well and just cant come up with any examples. Thanks for proving I was right. — John Harris
If not — BlueBanana
just as one can take it as a premise God doesn't. — John Harris
I won't even be reading your next posts. — John Harris
this is a fucking joke, right? No they can't while discussing the existence of God. — BlueBanana
And It is absolute nonsensical and hilarious that you compare the directions for finding something that someone theorized to directions to an already-physically discovered river. — John Harris
Because Christ doesn't exist. And that's it, metaphysician. Your arguments have gotten so silly that I'm not going to waste my time engaging them anymore. I won't be reading any more of your posts. — John Harris
And now you're saying your parents are no more real than a non-proven soul.. — John Harris
Are you a physical being? — Anonymys
I've been trying to explain to John Harris that this is nothing more than prejudice, without any progress. — Metaphysician Undercover
The problem with academic Western Philosophy (there are economic reasons), is that its whole premise is that there is a truth, and we have to convince others of the truth. This is the raison d'etre for academic Western Philosophy. — Rich
I believe, the idea that we have to convince others of the truth is a misrepresentation of philosophy. — Metaphysician Undercover
Lol.↪ssu No, I understood your incorrect point about what i said and positivism. So, the only one strawmanning is you. And I didn't ridicule you; don't be so sensitive.
You're the one expressing Luddite disdain for scientific explanation. So why wouldn't you think angels make airplanes fly? — Thanatos Sand
I did no such thing, since if people are saying the soul is natural — John Harris
,I was using their own range of applicability, and even if there is a soul, it has no clear range of applicability. I'm not surprised you don't grasp that.
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