As the names of things proliferated, language was required to comprehend the nuances, actions and interactions of things as well as their relatively static, nominal state of being. Thus developed the need for verbs, adjectival and adverbial expressions and well as nominal ones. — Mark Aman
I see where you would think this... that I 'made it up'... but that's only if you are thinking factually about the details of 'what happened' at a certain moment in the distant past. Of course these details can not be known. But my reasoning here is not factual. What I'm looking for is not the first words 'in fact' but rather the 'first principle' of human language.You sort of made this up. There's no way to know that the first man did. — Hanover
I can long for the girlfriend I had when I was 18, but I don't need her.
I can long for a peanut butter sandwich, but I don't need one.
I need food.
I need water.
Seems to me there is a bit of a difference. — Sir2u
However, ONLY when an object is ABSENT, is there a need to 'call' it back into presence. — Mark Aman
If longing for something absent is the larger category, — Metaphysician Undercover
So I asked you, in response to your post, how is need not a form of longing for something absent — Metaphysician Undercover
Which it is not because it is not even a synonym of need and therefore not in the same category.
Similar word to longing would be
hankering
yearning
desire
None of which actually imply need.
requirement
necessary
want
necessity
requisite
essential — Sir2u
It is obvious I think that while some people think of a desire as being the same as a necessity they are incorrect. — Sir2u
It is something about the way a word is used that gives it its meaning.You may continue to increase your list of longings, showing that none of them imply need, but this will never demonstrate that need is not a longing. — Metaphysician Undercover
Clearly I am not equating desire and need. — Metaphysician Undercover
Why do you place "want" in the category other than "desire"? — Metaphysician Undercover
When I say "I need food" it does not in anyway mean that I long for a piece of cheese. It simply means that I have to eat to survive. — Sir2u
But you are when you say that they are in the same category. — Sir2u
I don't, if you look at the list it is shown as a synonym for need. — Sir2u
and you want a categorical separation between "need" and "longing". Why? — Metaphysician Undercover
Without the longing for it, you are just being dishonest in your claim of needing food, because you are not even hungry. — Metaphysician Undercover
...ONLY when an object is ABSENT, is there a need to 'call' it back into presence.
The problem, of course, is that calling something back into presence is not the only reason to 'call' — creativesoul
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