ButNot at all. — Fire Ologist
First, because people end up offending others without realizing it and holding on to a sort of subtle bigotry. — Count Timothy von Icarus
But more importantly, I think it ties into a large problem in liberal, particularly Anglo-American culture, were nothing can be taken seriously and nothing can be held sacred.
— Count Timothy von Icarus
If true, why does this matter? Describe the problem to me. I'm not sure I see a lack of seriousness myself, but perhaps what you mean by this is many groups no longer read or follow traditional values. — Tom Storm
You seem to have covered that adequately. — Banno
faith of itself is neither good nor bad — Banno
Even so, it remains that the story is understood by many as advising one to maintain one's faith even if one believes that god is asking for an abominable act. — Banno
That would be easier on you, I presume. But supose that I have understood all you had to say, and yet still reject theism. What's the appropriate response?Maybe you are incapable? — Fire Ologist
Isn't your take informed by a bias that values traditionalism and is suspicious, perhaps even hostile towards political radicalism (particularly of the Left)? Is your use of irony as Rorty uses it? Is 'unseriousness' how they would describe it, or is that your description for it? There's a further quesion in what counts as a politically radical circle?
My understanding, and I may well be wrong, is that it is a prime influence on Islam; Absolute Submission. — Banno
See what I mean? — frank
Since your gold standard is how one acts and we both advocate for the same acts, what else can you do to sustain the tension between religion and secular beliefs other than to (1) insist my religious beliefs are founded upon an overly benevolent misunderstanding of my own theology or (2) just declare me an abberation, an oddly secularly moral theist, a diamond in the roughSeems we have broad agreement. — Banno
o strranger in the midst of an Abrahamic community need worry about their kinfolk being burned to the gods — Hanover
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