What I find distressing is low quality posters carelessly spamming threads with their random thoughts. You may be right that it's in bad taste to say anything negative about them when they're gone, but that I'm less concerned about. We have different priorities, I guess.



It wasn't just mods. He's absolutely convinced he knows what's going on in other people's heads. Just that in the case of mods it prevented him from doing what he was asked.

I'm not in the slightest. It's a simple request that almost no-one argues about and we shouldn't be expected to waste our day on someone who won't go along with it.

Banned @Foghorn for refusing to agree to my PMed request to stay on topic on other threads.

Unfortunate overlap with the convo here but he insisted I was a liar and wouldn't cooperate until I admitted it. Probably, he really believed that and there wasn't much point in trying to convince him otherwise.

Yes, we do have a right to make a joke. Feel free to do the same. Even at our expense.

Mainly though she was banned just because her posts were shit.

Whoops, I did it again. :yikes:

The politest thing we could say in response to the demise of a sincere person who was doing their best is nothing. — Foghorn

I don't feel she was necessarily doing her best. She posted too much to be taking much time over her responses imo, didn't listen, and didn't seem to really care about any one's views but her own.

The politest thing I can say is... Fuck it, I give up.

Banned @Iris0 for low quality.

@Michael You're asking the right questions of the wrong person.

:100:

It's a politics not a philosophy thread, so it will be full of contention and conflict. Qualify tends to be lower as a result and yes, we all contribute to that, including mods. Such is the nature of such threads. But it will be kept on topic as a minimum effort at maintaining coherence. If that's too silly for you, so be it.

If we can make this @Hanover's fault, I'd be totally up for that. :victory:

Maybe it works like karma. For every troll action there is a troll reaction, like waves on the surface of a pond slowly diffusing. If the reactionary amplifiers quiet, we might be able to hear something else.

Did I just amplify the amplifiers? Are they like the borg, entities of a collective one? What is really going on, beyond the fun or tedious drama is a mystery. — Nils Loc

:eyes: This is how you write something "different" without it being shit.

Kindly put, he is full of it. Lived down to my expectations anyhow.

Indeed, it is a horrible and unfair place. Do not let us detain you here any longer, good sir. And good luck in the fairer internet climes we are sure you will find more suitable to someone of your erudition and kindliness.



Sure, you can do that.

My take is Amen didn’t show up to the debate. Everything he said was posturing, my guess is he was hoping to barf out enough words that he could have plenty of weeds to hide in when he inevitably evaded addressing the actual topic of debate. That's what it looked like to me. — DingoJones

:up:

What was mentioned was paragraphing, punctuation, and spacing not grammar. We actually don't police grammar much when meaning is clear. We just don't want the site looking like shit because some posters are too lazy to present their writing at above kindergarten level.

Btw, there's a reply function you can use rather than @ing every time.

The central committee has decided you need to write properly. Use standard paragraphing, punctuation, spacing etc. Otherwise, you may be "disappeared". Spasiba. — Baden

The topic of threads are found in the OP. The idea there's a debate to be had about that is your fantasy. Anyway, thank you for going away. You've been a serious time-waster. All off-topic posts being deleted from now on.

Yes, stop trolling. If you’re not interested in the topic or in staying on topic, do not post here.

The central committee has decided you need to write properly. Use standard paragraphing, punctuation, spacing etc. Otherwise, you may be "disappeared". Spasiba.

The central committee here — Trinidad

I like that. Could everyone here please refer to the mod team as "the central committee" from now on. :up:

My take is if the fed scares investors and there's a stock market correction, btc will break support and crash. If not, it'll likely grind up again. Long term it's a good investment as long as it keeps doing what it always has, but I'd rather wait for a bit more certainly.

Forget the old and new testament we have streetlight and baden with their ranting monologues! — Mystic

And also our resident Mystic
With thoughts so utterly twisted
It's bad grammar he likes
While philosophy's shite
And the mods want Jesus delisted!

BTW, I've nothing against an esoteric or poetic style where appropriate and if it's not used to jazz up mediocrities, hide grammatical laziness, or obscure intellectual shallowness. It's rare all those buttons get hit though.

Didn't realize the whole cult was here. Let's play poison Kool-aid, shall we?

We should probably have caught him earlier if anything.

@Jack Cummins That's in the banning thread now. I agree with the decision but if you have any comments specifically relating to it, please feel free to put them there.

Current vibes.

You may be right about the inconsistency there and if there's any question as to the legitimacy of a banning, it's normally raised in the mod forum, so I'll look into it. Re the thread, it's directly about feedback (i.e. concerning the mods and the site) with little or no other content or focus.

As stated above, I think your declared interest in the welfare of Palestinians is false, a forum pose, whose primary purpose is the enhancement of your relationship with yourself.

I could be wrong, and one way to demonstrate that would be to show us the threads you've started which express extensive outrage at the Assad regime, which has oppressed, tortured and killed innocent Arabs with far more unjust ferocity than anything Israel has done.

If you truly do care about the fate of innocents, and are truly logical, you will be directing most of your outrage at those who are doing the most killing of innocents, and the most deliberate killing of innocents. When I see you doing that, I'll begin to take you seriously. Until then, have fun with all the clever little quipy thingies. — Foghorn

The Assad regime is off-topic as are amateur psychology ad-hom rants. But seeing as it's politics, you can have one of the latter. If you want to talk about something other than the topic though, start a new one.

I do wonder if there are certain views which are taboo on the site — Jack Cummins

Yes, some are specifically mentioned in the guidelines. Others are discretionary. Like, we didn't mention necrophilia, but it probably wouldn't fly as a philosophical topic.

Put feedback threads in feedback only, please (now moved). I don't know who banned this member but the policy is to put in the banning thread mention of established members only. This is to save time. And, I guess, at just under 100 posts, Anand-Haqq would be a borderline case.

Said the same guy defending killing Palestinian children as collateral damage. — Benkei

Absolutely sickening hypocrite. Truly deluded. Highlights the real difference here is not between Jews and non-Jews or even Palestinians and Israelis but hyper-partisan nutters and the rest of us.

Please don't do that. It won't help you to read other's posts anyway. So, it's pointless as well as ugly. Just use your browser as suggested.

Again, for me, immorality comes down to actual harm inflicted on others. Bad taste can be broader, more like dishonourable behaviour even if not involving others.

It's a little different if I'm actively partaking and influencing others. If I'm sat at home watching a Trump speech then that's just tasteless, like eating shit, yes. We probably more or less agree here.

But should it be you, for example, who was playing that game, don't you think it'd be immoral? — Hanover

It's weird to try to imagine putting myself in that position. I'd think I was a cunt. Not sure about immoral if I was playing alone.

EDIT: I mean if you asked me is it immoral to eat human faeces, it's almost the same feeling. It would be the mental equivalent of that.

A statement can be immoral due to its offensiveness. For example, if the Grand Imperial Wizard takes the stage and explains why his race is superior and why others are inferior, that is an immoral act. — Hanover

I agree with this. This would be more analagous to the game designers. As I've said:

Having said that, so far as jokes propagate racism, I'd call the act of telling them immoral, just as I might condemn the designers of a racist board game or violent video game rather than the players. — Baden

As for:

Playing the videogame can be a statement. The victims are those who see those games at stores, see the glee in the eyes of those who play the games, and those whose lives are negatively impacted by the societal attitudes that are changed by the acceptance of such behavior. — Hanover

Theoretically, yes. The devil is in the details though. I wouldn't want to argue that playing a video game can't be such a damaging statement, only that it doesn't necessarily have to be.

My position is probably best summed up here:

voluntarily placing yourself in the virtual position of someone committing a racist act does not necessarily make you a racist — Baden

You can raplace "racist act" with your alternative of any immoral act and "racist" with its corresponding descriptor.

Do we agree on that much in principle?

Funny, how you pretend to be cynical about politics and politicians, except when it comes to your master and suddenly you become as naive as a newborn lamb. Good luck with getting anyone to take you seriously.