There is a God. — unenlightened

A deeply religious notion. God... — Hanover

Yes, but maybe not the God you think.

Jesus fuck on a stick. — StreetlightX

Some Gods are funkier than others.

We might be in for some informed decisions for a change.

I'll embrace, but whatever, I applaud that then — Hanover

Too easy. :halo:

Figured out a way to get the Breitbart crowd on board with not killing all the old people with corona virus. Here it goes:

Me: Imagine corona virus is a bunch of Mexican immigrants. Now what do you need to stop them?

Nobrainnocry: A wall?

Me: Yes! A huuuuuuge wall. Now, do you take that wall down just after putting it up?

Nobrainnocry Damn, no! The rapey murderers would be pouring in again like flies.

Me: Right, you leave it there until...

Nobrainnocry: Until...?

Me: Take your time...

Nobrainnocry: Until you multiplee nuke Mexico and wipe enough of the varmints out so there's hardly a body left to come in?

Me: Exactly! Now, see, the wall is called a lockdown. And the nuke is a strategy called the hammer and we're going to beat corona like the nasty immigrant virus it truly is. God bless 'Murica.

Nobrainnocry: Whooopeee!

Very sorry to hear it. Best wishes for a quick recovery from the team here.

Welcome to the reality of hidden exponential growth. In three more days, the US will have at least 200,000 confirmed cases. — Andrew M

I calculate about 150,000. But it's going to be bad one way or the other.

No worries.

:chin:

As of now, the US has suffered more cases of Covid than any country in the world.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

Stop being a snowflake @Hanover. You shut down the economy for a couple of months until you get transmission rates below 1:1 then you open it up gradually with lots of social distancing rules in place and the other things you said about extra precautions for the vulnerable. Things eventually get back to normal, but with a bigger debt. End. What you don't do is take off the bandage before the wound has healed, otherwise you start the whole cycle again.

It's an unfortunate defensive reaction. It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if the accusation was true anyhow.

If that's the accusation, it should be investigated now and widely reported.

Here's the accusation:

“He used to put his hand on my shoulder and run his finger up my neck”

https://www.theunion.com/news/nevada-county-woman-says-joe-biden-inappropriately-touched-her-while-working-in-his-u-s-senate-office/

Consider Trump raped several women and still got elected, I have a feeling this is not going to have much impact.

Or you think that Trump will order the lifting the 'lock downs' or what? — ssu

I don't think he actually can as @Hanover indicated. It would be up to state officials. But he undermines those of them who want to be responsible and emboldens others who don't. Not to mention the message it sends to the public. What appals me most is the thinking behind it.

109 so far here: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

@Hanover

Yes, now that Trump has defeated the economy, it's time to open up corona again! Corporations are dying, people?! What's wrong with you?

Seriously though, ideological differences aside, steer clear of the sociopathic capitalism brigade. 'Sacrificing' hundreds of thousands of the weak and old for the economy is horribly wrong from just about every angle, moral and otherwise. Do the hammer. Your economy will recover.

Well, I have refrained from mentioning that Mitch there's-no-money-for-crazy-Dem-spending-on-social-programs McConnell took barely a nanosecond to pull 2 trillion dollars out his ass when his donors needed a bailout, so you can't be referring to me. :halo:

I noticed. :eyes:

So, the US today* had almost twice as many new Covid cases as anywhere else in the world. Sounds like a good time to stop social distancing and open everything up. :vomit:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

*After the daily update, today is now yesterday. Click on the tab.

Real Trump = indistinguishable from Saturday Night Live Trump.

*Shrug* I just presumed he was dead.

So many things that can be done. But you'd much prefer to murder half a million+ of your population. — StreetlightX

Of another country's population. NOS isn't an American. Not sure if that makes it worse or not. At least some on the right are being honest about what they want though, including real Americans like the Lt. Governor of Texas:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/24/us/coronavirus-texas-patrick-abbott.html

"Mr. Patrick, the Texas chairman of the president’s campaign, appeared on Fox News on Monday and said that he was not only ready for the country and the economy to get moving again amid the coronavirus pandemic, but also that he and other grandparents might be willing to die for that to happen."

Capitalism is a cult.

Agreed. :up:

Is it so hard to keep the orangemanbad rants on the Trump thread and out of the Corona thread? — Nobeernolife

Not sure ssu was ranting, but on the general point I agree. Things are getting mixed up between threads and the same stuff is being written in different places. The place for full on anti-Trump rage is the Trump thread. Same for TDS rebuttals. However, that's just advisory. Usual flaming rules apply.

:ok:

I don't care what you do, just write about the correct disease. Pfft, it's like kindergarten here sometimes.

epidemics. — NOS4A2

We're in a pandemic, silly. And recommendations are different for different diseases. Why do I have to explain this to you?

I'm not going to tell you again. Next time I'll presume it's deliberate misinformation instead of a stupid mistake.

So what? Write about the right disease. Is it clear?

Oh, and straight from WHO:

https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public

"Maintain social distancing"

This is embarrassingly wrong. The main document you are quoting is specifically about influenza not coronavirus.

Here's some official advice about coronavirus, you know, the pandemic that we are actually fighting.

"Necessary measures to mitigate the impact of the pandemic
Given the current epidemiology and risk assessment, and the expected developments in the next days to few weeks, the following public health measures to mitigate the impact of the pandemic are necessary in EU/EEA countries:

Social distancing measures should be implemented early in order to mitigate the impact of the epidemic and to delay the epidemic peak. This can interrupt human-to-human transmission chains, prevent further spread, reduce the intensity of the epidemic and slow down the increase in cases, while allowing healthcare systems to prepare and cope with an increased influx of patients.

Such measures should include:
... Community engagement and acceptance of stringent social distancing measures put in place are key in delaying and reducing further spread."

https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/publications-data/rapid-risk-assessment-novel-coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19-pandemic-increased

We're also past the containment stage and onto the mitigation stage you poor uninformed person. Go research the difference.

Please do not post again until you know what you are talking about. Make an effort. At a minimum make sure you post about the right disease. Thanks.

The Koreans I spoke too had voluntarily locked down because they were so scared. So, there's that too.

Yet now Trump is panicking about the prevailing economic depression and wanting to stop this "social distancing" and lock down for economic purposes. — ssu

You would hope he's not that irrational, but he can't stand the idea of being a loser on the economy, which he now is, so it is possible he'd sacrifice American lives for a stockmarket boost.

And knowing Trump's supporters and Fox News, they will reurgitate whatever this guy says. — ssu

And his sycophants here too will be singing his praises even as more Americans die. Hard to understand. But that's what will happen.

Do not waste my time with stupid comments like that. Next time I'll presume you're trolling.

They built a huge hospital in ten days. They staffed a ward with robots. They are way ahead of the game.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2236777-coronavirus-hospital-ward-staffed-entirely-by-robots-opens-in-china/

@Hanover As I was saying about the lag. Now up to 5% from 0% and rising.

With just 102 cases, New Zealand is ordering a full month-long lockdown. This is the hammer. This is intelligence applied to policy. And this will work.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/23/kiwis-go-home-new-zealand-to-go-into-month-long-lockdown-to-fight-coronavirus

“The worst-case scenario is simply intolerable, it would represent the greatest loss of New Zealanders’ lives in our history and I will not take that chance.”

:strong:

Plus his data is all sourced. He's just giving the most clear and sensible interpretation.

No country is trying to follow this. It would be insane.

About time.

I feel my TDS coming on, but I'll refrain. Another good illustration of why everything certain politicians say about coronavirus should be ignored.