Ill be back. — Prishon

:rofl:

I saw this only now! Dood one!

What have tbey to do with the discreteness of space? Excuse eventual spelling. Im on phone.

What you want me to prove? It are just transformations of the unit disc in the complx plane. A bit old already though. ☺

If you are not familiar with a certain area of mathematics it would make little sense. Has to do with the convergence of infinite compositions of parabolic linear fractional transformations (having indifferent fixed points) that converge to the identity. — jgill

Who says Im unfamiliar with them?

Prishon said:

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I assume you refer to the situation in Afghanistan. Who sold Osama bin Laden rockets? To be fired at commies? Indeed America. The seeds were laid. Mujahedin---Talibanned---AlQuaeda/IS...

Now the US has gone. After the longest war ever raged. 20 000 died in the fight agaist a terrorism for which they themselves laid the base.

Was it worthwhile?"

You do have a way with words! — tim wood

The thing is though that its only words.

If space is not infinitely divisible than there is a space that can't be divided — Gregory

It could be that on the micro micro micro micro micro micro scale space is not smooth anymaore. Well, smooth maybe, but foamy, so to speak. The virtual graviton can take care of this. Or the quantum Nature of spacetime itself. Pointlike gravitons cause trouble though. Thats why strings were invented. Or quantum loops of space. There is research going on to unify these two.

Zeno showed that space and objects in them appear to be both finite and infinite at the same time. This is why Kant called this an Antimony (an impasse) — Gregory

Im not sure I understand. Space is infinitely small and of finite size at the same time? You can impose a row of small imaginary measuring poles on space (like on time), with decreasing mutual distances, and thus cut it up in ever smaller parts but its the question how far you can go. Can we infer from the fact that things can move at all that space is continuous? Or time? Loop quantum gravity (quantum loop gravity) assumes there is a minimum time interval in which time is absent. What determines that a Planck time has passed? An external clock that ticks a Planck time and then gives a sign to change?

However, just recently I employed a step to prove a theorem of sorts in which a second order term was ignored, similar to NSA. — jgill

Which theorem? Whats NSA?

Unless you understand the math you don't understand the theory. — jgill

Thats where you are wrong. The math merely describes... One moment, my wife has brought coffee. Ill drink first. Ill be back. ☺

God's true benevolence lays in the creation of the temporal infinite universe. Complete with all the shit that somehow comes along with it. And all the beauty and biodiversity that occupies galaxies here and over the horizon. Before I return to his being I will have lived an infinity of lifes.

I wouldn' t call that Nature. Einstein hadn't internet means. Yet he saw the true Nature of the pattern of Mercury.

Nope. Limits of measurements are physical problems. — jgill

Not if the physical space has a Natural limit of continuity.

How would it even be possible to discern, with apodeictic certainty, whether there are intrinsic patterns in Nature — Mww

By looking.

hope he isn't now a giraffe or something — magritte

Maybe it's me. Was his name Wiliam? No, coming to think of it...I believe too in reincarnation. But in a next universe... So... It cant be me. ☺

I love that painting by the way. He was philosophical! I did a copy once of the minds eye. With thunder and lightning instead of blue with clouds..

Prishon say: good question! Prishon is in between. Physical side of trinity is coming alive through eyes of Prishon. Physical side tickles inside world of Prishon. Tickles magical trinity part that blossoms in inside world of Prishon. How trinity know to be magical part inside, and physical material part of trinity outside? Prishon is the unshifted trinity form. Or better the unshifted matter and essence in matter. Who knows true Nature of matter? Prishon does not know. But Prishon can FEEL the magic essence of matter. Prishon liky liky magical stuff. Likes to feel and see and hear and think. And dance. Prishon is not brain. Prishon is person, body with eyes and ears and feet! Thats why Prishon like dance! And music. And think. Inner world of Prishon now hurts. Inner world of Prishon has think too much. Says dont want to think anymore. But Prishon dont listen! Prishon wants brain to think!

Jesus! Enough now Prishon. Im not sure I understood you question correctly. What do you mean with my material world? And with the physical world?

35 seconds) there is a complete symmetry between all these interactions (fundamental forces) . . . . complete symmetry between matter and antimatter". — Gnomon

Prishon says: No symmetry between interaction! Symmetry break based on wrong assumption. Higgsy mechanism no exist! Matter antimatter are equal and were always equal. Also now! Anti rishons on othere side of 4d open torus! Anti quarki and anti lepton on other side. Quarki and lepton contain same anti as normal. On other side of open torus Prishon sees anti quarki and anti leptoni. But on both sides equal number both.

So the physical world is mathematical and the appearance is experimental physics? — magritte

Prishon says no. Physical world is material side. Appearance is the "magical", "essence essential" construction of material part of the trinity. The magical part expires in inner world of Prishon. Inner world make physical world appear. Prishon in between! Before animals walked or swimmed or crawled or fly, all was one. The trinity was one. Then one trinity shifted. To two worlds with Rishon or mama in between. All animal came to be in between. When Prishon dead Prishin one trinity again. No shift anymore.Mathemati just in Prishon inside. Experiment is done on outside of Prishon. But some people have looked in Prishon head! Prishon no like!

Prishon says: Great dialecital discous going between Khaled and other one Shoppyhauer2

Not only is a specific thought based on a specific brain state, but failure to a grasp a specific thought is a failure to assemble a specific brain state — Mark Nyquist

Right! Though it must be said that thoughts can go on unconsciously. You can sometimes wake up with a solution for a problem you have been thinking about. Likewise, we dont notice everything going on in the physical world.

What part of the memorty this is? — Alkis Piskas

Memories dont exist.

The real woo is an infinite 4d open torus with Planck-sized mouth. Placed in an infinite 5d flat space. 3D spacetime fluctuating wildly at the mouth (for you Seppo; I know exactly why you're not interested...).

There are many hard problems, not one. — Manuel

I had one this morning! No, just kidding. The thing is that matter is not just matter.

while totally avoiding objective knowledge — Ennui Elucidator

Why avoiding that? Do I perceive an unconscious fear towards objects?

Your opinion can't be true? Nor your beliefs? — Banno

In fact they are factually adequate perceptions of a metaphysical reality.

What say you? — TheMadFool

Me say: Interesting, nodding head! Me think a bit. Prishon think a lot these days. Prishon's head aches litlle. Head doesnt wanna think so much! But Prishon dont care what head says. I let him think a bit bout you comment!

I think that it would be difficult to find the distance of the sides and the angles at the same time — Winner568

Look for the Pentagramma Merificum. You might be interested.

☺

The subject: quit lying — TheMadFool

Why should one? Because its unethical? Why should that stop one? Because God says?

The headache itself is part of your self-experience, or, put simpler, just part of yourself

The aching of your head is the aching of your inner mental magical world. Not of yourself. A pain in the ass would be pain of yourself, yourself being your body. You experience pain inside as you experience vision as being in the outer world, or phantom pain in the ass (would be rather rare though...). Doesnt take away the fact that pains no nice. Head ache is a way for the inner world to tell you something. That it has thought enough for example.

The "inner world" does not reflect the truth of the "outer world — Michael Zwingli

I dont agree. Why not?

the thoughts produced by a hypothetical "brain kept alive in a jar" would be totally different, and so the "world" thus created would be totally different, from those of the same brain if it were part of a human body... — Michael Zwingli

The brains in a jar are impossible in principle.

If the brain isn't a person, then who is? — Luke

The body in between the inner and outer world. It has all the features of a person.

I just don't care — Seppo

Then you miss out on the revelation of the century! The universe has spoken to me! In the language of Nature which I describe by math, the easy part.

OK, this explains it! :smile: (But still, it was addressed to Cheshire! :grin:) — Alkis Piskas

No harm intende! ☺

But then of course you can always select yourself and respond to a post that doesn't mention your name! :smile: I repeat, the post mentioned Cheshire, not @Prishon. — Alkis Piskas

WhenI replied I saw too late that it was addressed Chesire. I thought it was about the trinity theory. Instead of triangles... ☺

Finally a reply! But as crackpot tells jackpot that it doesnt wanna dance no more, I leave crackpot and letit be! No sorry.

two-wrongs-make-a-right fallacy. :meh: — jorndoe

Dont two wrongs make it right?

Has TFP lost control? — Alkis Piskas

What do you mean by this?

Sure. — emancipate

A materialistic view on the universe?