Aint old yet, I suppose, at 58. My dad is, at 83. But apart from his having some medical conditions we seem to have some stuff in common, that referring back to the OP seem to give us some plus in comparison with my tween aged kids. Or with the the self of say ´87. coolest thing is memory. Looking at old documentaries from the mid 80´s it now looks like WW2 movies you saw as a kid. And I was there, remembering it as a grown-up. For kids and youngsters, stuff like Neil Armstrong on the moon is like some fluffy stuff for me like say Kennedy being shot(of which I have no memories, though born). And the Berlin wall, 9/11 and so on. The complete web development. To actually have living memories of stuff is cooler than I thought it would be.

And of course, one grows in wisdom in several different ways. One has done the stupid things, one has learned. Apart from the mirror, as the old lady in Titanic reflects, having changed somewhat I cannot say that much stuff has gone worse. More things have gone better.

Eternity is not a good place for the human brain to dwell at

Rape victims reportedly seem to regard the act of being killed as the worst consequence of being attacked. I think the OP seem to lack an ability to position oneself in another persons place, as it is written. There aint an abundance of thing more important than living.

But well, we celebrate soilders for taking the lives of others, so killing as such is not a total no-no in most cultures including the western one.

This is playing with fire, guys. Serious fire and I am not joking.

In other words, Popper is not dong motive questioning: he is not saying "Booh booh Marx was a communist, how dare he". He is instead comparing Marx and Hegel's historical theories with practice, using his criteria of falsifiability, and showing it's pure BS. Those guys essentialize history as some grand necessary trajectory that has nothing to see with reality. — Olivier5

He¨s not throwing them aside as BS. What he says is that capitalism can be controlled, with institutions in a nation, limiting the possibilities for the market to ursurp the citizens, with laws and regulations. He specifically mention social democraties in western Europe to be successful examples.

And to call Marx totally "German" is not totally correct. Hegel had his adepts in the UK, and Marx did base many of his studies, as Popper mentions, on the conditions for workers in English industrial towns, which were awful. He also spent like half his life as a Bourgeoise Londoner. Also, at the time when Marx developed most of his ideas there were no such place as Germany. Just a mishmash of areas earlier conquered by Napoleon.

Now, The Open society was written half a century ago, things have changed a lot since then. The markets are global, automatization has been developed further, work resources can be bought cheap from any country. Things are more messy now.

Heidegger suggest repetitively -if not claims- that Aristotelian-Cartesian concept of time is "theoretical" against his "authentic" concept of "temporality". This is false. His concept is as theoretical as Aristotelian. In the fact he himself recognizes it. He affirms that his interpretation has to "violate" the common sense of time. ("When violences are done in this field of investiga­tion..." B&T: 326/374). It wouldn't be so grave if he were able to give some reason of this "violence" as he pretends. He is not. — David Mo

We have here in Scandinavia something called “summer program” in the most prominent radio channel, people still listens to the radio here. As podcasts on their Iphones. Have been running since the 50’s. The idea is that, everyday during the summer, some famous person will have 13:00-14:30 free to speak about pretty much what he or she wants to in small chunks, and play music of own choice in between. Hugely popular and I do listen to most. It might be their life’s story or some cause they root for. Whatever.

Anyhow, I’ve been listening to literary hundreds of those programs since the 80’s. Now, me and missus was talking about two different persons having had those programs years ago. I guessed their programs were like 10 years apart, but it turned out they talked almost the days consecutive.

When I read those parts in S und Z I kind of understood it as H was trying to formalize the feeling You get when “thinking of time”. Time as it appears to the dasein. Augenblick and all that. But I am no pro.

My personal opinion is that no one can really interpret Heidegger clearly without at least 6 months or so of reading. — Xtrix

I’ll be back when I’m retired.

indeed — “oliver5

Wonder who. Probably more than 1k posts and short ones,

Then I suspect he will be slapped on the wrist by some here if he ever posts from hell. — Olivier5

Maybe he is, its only nicks here. But I wouldn’t try, I dont like to be wristslapped, the probable outcome .

I think a serious problem in philosophical discourse is that individuals feel like their intelligence is being attacked when their belief is being attacked. In my experience Analytical Philosophers are exceedingly intelligent, most especially in terms of comprehension. I would think all of the people I have had extended discourse with on this Forum are smarter than me, but that doesn't mean their program is one of relevance or that their beliefs are accurate. We all have to continually challenge our beliefs in this sense. I think there's a good rule here, where there is pain and psychological defensiveness, that's usually the direction we need to go. — JerseyFlight

Where does imagination and creativity fit in with analytical philosophy? I find it so boring to read that I really do not know it , other from a popular pow. Will an Ayer, a wittgenstein or a Quine say stop dreaming? Or is it like a gauge to measure the correctness of what pops up?

For example, Hegel, Wittgenstein, Derida have done more harm than good to society with their thinking, in my view. Because their thinking was wrong and yet people adhered to it.

They might have been very polite, so if you judge by that, they were good guys, but their words did some damage nevertheless, in my judgment. — Olivier5

Wittgenstein was probably the least polite philosopher you’ll ever encountered but he was bloody well not wrong. As no philosopher who has survived the decades was. Noone is totally right, but Wittgenstein was probably more right than you and me. An asshole, though.

Ok, A lot of like BLM talk here last pages. Explain to a fellow on other side of the big waters, what has been the story for the african american(I abbreviate AA) community, generally speaking, since the days of the civil rights movements in the 60`s? I remember the death of MLK vaugely as a young kid. Then during the 70’s and earlier 80`’s one heard vaguely about poor comditions and criminality in the cities but anyhow, a vague feeling of things going in a good direction for the AA. But everything very vague.

My home country was among the poorest around 1900, I do myself come from those families, about 80% of my fellow countrymen did, many emigrated to the US. But there was a strong social democrat movement during, well, most of the 1900’s and the poor people became ... stable.

One wonder, is there such a way for the AA people in the USA? To come from poor conditions and criminality to a stable life? Supposedly a decent percentage of AA do have found the way, but seemingly, very many do remain in the lowest classes.

I come from a country no less with predjudices against different people, and I did for sure did not enter adulthood without racial predjudices. But then working multinationally for 20+ years changed all that. If you are well educated and come to a workplace the color of your skin matter for like 24 hour, and then its obvious if you are an asset or a hindrance to the team you are working with, and you will find that you have more in Common brainwise with someone from China or Eritrea than the people from your own neighbourhood.

But if you grow up where things are shit you will be shit. I am not without it, growing up in a humble suburb where everyone worked daytime or was unemployed. No slum but also no dreams.

I did good in school and in work, and landed in a rather posh area. My wife, my kids, all my neighbours have those dreams. And frankly, I am worse than them, even though I may score higher in work, our equivalent ov SAT and stuff. I am more dishonest, more greedy, tougher to my kids, pretty much like the mean father in Dead Poets Society. Not anything like Robin Williams teacher of dreams.

And well, living in the slum will probably do not do you better. Thats nothing racist, thats class. So - if a big part of the AA are Heidegger way thrown into the slum, how can they get out of it?

Because - if a lot of AA are in the slum, a lot of those guys will be bad people and that will increase racist feelings among middle class white people - with good reasons. So you do have to kind of break that evil circle in some way.

One thing - I dont think the gangsta culture do much to improve stuff. We see it here, amongst immigrant kids. I recognise it from my own childhood. Being tough gave kudos. But its to its root bad. Understandable but bad. Naively but still true - To contribute to society should be the only thing that gave kudos.

No paradox here. The complexity and unpredictacility of the human brain is enough for conversations or games with oneself. Chess is boring though. Writing novels and depicting combattants is no problem. You never know who’s gonna win. This sounds more like a ultra extrovert with no inner life.

Read Les Mots (in english), partly because I am thrilled with the guy, and partly because Sartre and Beauvoir was in the forefront for the academical left. It gave me few answers to my heading question, but I want to cite Jean-Pauls last words in his oeuvre :

”What I like about my madness is that it has protected me from the very beginning against the charms of the "elite": never have I thought that I was the happy possessor of a "talent"; my sole concern has been to save myself—nothing in my hands, nothing up my sleeve—by work and faith. As a result, my pure choice did not raise me above anyone. Without equipment, without tools, I set allofmetoworkinordertosaveallofme.If I relegate impossible Salvation to the proproom, what remains? A whole man, composed of all men and as good as all of them and no better than any”

This gives som clues , after all.
Hey Jean-Paul! Being brought up at the Schweizers you ARE elite, and will never be anything else. Sitting in cafés daytime weekdays people from humbler backgrounds seldom do.
And hey, If you have talent or not - you will never know. Living in a house with a personal library and only attending an elite school in Paris...

what I should want to know - the years in La Rochelle, and the years as a teacher - what did that contribute with. A bit like Wittgenstein after having solved all earthly problems and heading for the alps. I sincerely believe Sartre was a h*ll of a much better teacher. But what do they know about having talent and being raised in a daytime job area?

I think, their greatest hommage should be to those kids. But what Sartre was striving for was a country where the talented kids from the villages and banlieus had as much hell as possible. And his own elite free space to fulfil their dreams.

Actually the US has now more deaths per million people than Sweden.

Correct to notice that it was the right wing that in Sweden demanded a lockdown, which the government didn't do.

Here it was the right-wing that demanded also tough quarantine measures... and the ruling women from the left-centrist administration agreed. At start of the pandemic, the administration and the opposition reached a consensus on this and now Finland has the lowest amount of corona cases and deaths per million of the Nordic countries. But who knows, maybe it will become worse.

So basically the argument that the lock-down or no-lock-down argument is inherently politically or ideologically motivated is simply nonsense. It really isn't. — ssu

About right. The dicussions nere has been as intense as everywhere. But generally out chief epidemiologist said from the beginning No lockdown. And the government listened to his department. Covid has been severe in homes for elderly people, and more people died here under 70 yo, than the total number of fatalities in our neighbouring countries Norway and Finland. They did the lockdown. Abou 5000 died here about 400 there each. But can one say whats right or wrong?

Now for US, well, we have never had masks here, and now very few people die. The most important thing seem not to be government policies but how well people really follow the rules in the country. Have had pretty extensive communication with people in lock down countries and thats no walk in the park, unemployed and stuck in a small apartment alone. The situation is above all difficult, the virus behaves unpredictable, and hunting wrongdoers is maybe not the best thing to do. Do you keep the distance yourself?

what country is that? — Professor Death

Sweden

Interestingly, wearing a mask and locking down stuff has been a right wing thing in my country. Approx the same death rate as in US and Brazil. The social democrat government said few restrictions, no masks, schools open. Right or wrong? Fuck knows...

For example, I do not think I was lying when I taught freshmen engineering students Newtonian physics without fully explaining how relativistic quantum physics falsified it. Why? Because what I taught them was adequate to their needs. Those who would need more precise physics would take other courses to learn it. We can never present all that we know, but we can speak the truth by presenting something adequate to the needs of our audience.

In sum, philosophy can only deal with human knowledge, because, however limited, it is the only knowledge we have. It begins by accepting experience, not as infallible, but as the only raw material that we have to reflect upon. — Dfpolis

In the first paragraph above you state that you taught them that was adequate for their needs. The knowledge of what was adequate, can you say that that was ONLY based on knowledge? No gut feeling?

What I'm talking about is our unconsciousness as a part of our psyche, a part from witch our consciousness (and reason) emerged. If we could equate our unconsciousness with reality beyond, should we then care about it? — Eremit

People having bothered with stuff like this have probably contributed to the enlightenment, the scientific process and stuff and thereby granted me a life already far longer than that for humans through history so I say - shoot!

Why, then, do people so easily confuse metaphysical concepts related to the absolute? — Gus Lamarch

Because all of them are fuzzy

My 25c to help with a lot of these questions, that we also have in Scandinavia with only sligthly different battle trenches:

For people with at least one parent or grand-parent being at least semi-wealthy and academic - I can tell you this, being a guy who have travelled from the suburb where everyone works nine to five or are in unemployment to a semi posh academic area, now being one of you:

People from lower classes do not really dream.
Do not get questions on what to do with their lives.
Have a super high threshold to take a job different that which gives safe monthly pay.
They do want safety. I cannot emphasise this clear enough. When people from academic backgrounds threaten this, through neo-liberalism or activism they scare people into voting for something that seems to guarantee safety.

Whatever solution you have to problems - make sure that the "normal person" has a feeling of being safe. Which is hard living in a western country in the globalized world. The people born in the 40´s, If you behaved decently you got a decent job and had a decent life. The normal guys in Germany did not feel safe after the crash 1929 and all the US loans to Germany being reclaimed. The normal guys in my home country do not at all feel safe with a massive immigration from middle east and a lot of criminality.
Those guys will vote for parties that seem to make their general situation safe.

So whatever you suggest : Make sure that what you say keep the normal daytime workers feeling safe enough. A hell of a lot can be done within these limits. I have read a lot of posts in this thread, I do not address any specific post. See this as a sanity check for what you are suggesting.

If Hitler thinks you're Jew, he won't care what you think; and whether you care or not about what he thinks, it's off to the gas chamber you go. Not having to care what others think about you is a privilege of power. — unenlightened

Off you go to USA before Hitler takes you, then you can start giving a damn again. Wouldn't go as far as saying "privilege of power". More, just make sure you can take the shit that comes with not caring - if you let the uncaring show. You can do the Heil arm thing without caring too much.

No, I'm from Scotland. Why did you bring that up? — fdrake

Because the situation is somewhat different in Sweden from Norway. Bigger problems, larger numbers of refugees, more crime, more racism. A racism that goes both ways.

You can find people like that anywhere and everywhere. — Professor Death

No.

Just another way of trying to find people who think like me to communicate with. People that love gut feeling for stuff but realises the shortcomings of that and can discuss accordingly. Details is not what gives my brain delight. I am not bad with details, Computers brings milk to my children but I find no pleasure in discussing details. Unfortunately detail discussions are what brings science forward. But even in science hypothesis are put and conclusions are drawn. Thats where I come in. I will avoid lengthy arguments to win. I will try to get the total picture. Of stuff.

" future does not mean a now that has not yet come, but a coming in which Dasein comes toward itself in its ownmost potentiality -of-being. " — Gregory

Reading Les Mots at the moment, no wonder Sartre did find an interest in the works of Heidegger...

Having read S und Z and found it tough going but having a reasonable understanding of it, what to read next? I have only read his Opus Magnus, otherwise just secondary litterature. Any suggestion for some shorter, more accessible of his works to read to get a good picture of his thoughts/philosophy?

Did the ... interruption caused by certain events in Germany affect his philosophy? S und Z is pre-Nürmberg.

What makes the Swedish system so terrible is the fact that this hugely popular nationalist party has it founding members were neonazis, and hence all the other parties flatly reject the party and have nothing to do with it. This might sound great, but isn't. If the populist cause and criticism against the lax immigration policies of is only driven by one "fringe" party, it obviously makes things worse.

Here I have to say that luckily Finland has avoided this inability trap, at least for now. Here the "True Finns" rose to popularity and did join the previous administration and got ministerial posts, starting from the position of foreign minister and defence minister. And then came the European Migrant Crisis. Once Sweden started to shut down it's borders, then a wave of immigrants landed in Finland from Sweden. I can just guess what would have politically happened if the True Finns party wouldn't have been in the government back then, but in the opposition and the administration had been made of a leftist-centrist government: even if the policies would have been exactly the same, the public outcry would have been naturally worse. Still, just being in the government at this crucial time made the True Finns to divide into two, with the old leadership starting a new party, which ended in disaster for them in the next elections for them. Yet unlike in Sweden (I guess), the anti-immigrant agenda wasn't treated as outrageous and totally politically-incorrect discourse by other parties from the start, even with the Social Democratic Party accepting that there have to be limitations on immigration and immigration had negative consequences. — ssu

Ssu, I guess we are neighbours on the world map. Your post is most intereresting. And what you say is in line with my observations from the other coast of the Baltic Sea.

To connect to the subject: It is not only in the immigration question Finland has outperformed Sweden this millenia. Also in handling of education, schools, teachers appreciation Finland is famous for its good education while Sweden goes down the drain PISA result wise.

Finland is supposedly doing things right there too. The schools are also a hot potato in Sweden, but in this case both the left and the right are accusing each other. And in both cases one can see elite projects stemming from people being born in upper class academical families.

Schooling is surprisingly rightist in a sense here in Sweden compared to other European countries. Private schools are allowed and get state funding. Schools that are allowed to make profit. Sweden had Right wing government during the 00-s and some really neo-liberal projects were launched.

I can see the same tendency here as I see in stuff like immigration and Global warming discussion. Young people from well-to-do academical families pushing for things where most people generally agree that this is a serious matter, but they push very hard, and in a romantic fashion. One get the picture of kids growing up in omnipotence - not having had to cope with consequences, treating serious questions as a means to give an answer to the eternal upper class question - "what do I want to do with my life". Very seldom the answer is - Get a daytime job and make sure I take responsibility for myself. WhiIch is the message my life as a lower, non-academic, middle class had as a must. Noone asked for goals in life. Does this makes sense?

Wiki says
"Ernesto "Che" Guevara (Spanish: [ˈtʃe ɣeˈβaɾa];[3] 14 June 1928[4] – 9 October 1967) was an Argentine Marxist revolutionary, physician, author, guerrilla leader, diplomat, and military theorist. A major figure of the Cuban Revolution, his stylized visage has bome a ubiquitous countercultural symbol of rebellion and global insignia in popular culture.[5]

As a young medical student, Guevara traveled throughout South America and was radicalized by the poverty, hunger, and disease he witnessed...."

Our social democrat Prime Minister(Stadsminister) Olof Palme, murdered 1986, the deed, committed on a Stockholm street shocked everyone has the same story. From the noblesse, spent his summers in a castle close to where my blackmith grandfather spent his summer in the standard the working class workers from town spent their summers, in a shed that the fishermen rented to the workers of the town.

Palme, a good social democrat traveled eg the USA and saw people who were even worse off than the Swedish workers(who had few "under them") . Palme did NOT become a revolutionary, but during the 68 movement he spoke highly of the revolutionarys around the world, and he is kind of the archetype for swedish activists. Greta is just another one. Good oratory skills (you learn that in a posh family), ends to which almost all in principle agrees to, but no plan for how to accomplish the ends, a fuzzy wish for a revolution, and a deeply romantic aura... This does not seem like something that would attract an intelligent youngster from a scolared family. One should think that people like that would appreciate the complexity of a problem, and act with the care and political delicacy. Yes, CO2 emissions levels are bad. Yes, its bad that people are stuck in conflicts in the middle east, Somalia. But what to do about it?

And most important - how do a person from a well-to-do academic family end up being left leaning? The guys that happen to take a journey to poor mans land? Still a mystery, and noone want to give an answer. I don't buy "the good guys".

n my opinion, the more educated tend to lean left because their priorities are different compared to those who hold more conservative views. For example, academics are less likely to own or manage businesses directly, so they are less concerned with having lower taxes and less regulations that would make it easier to start and sustain a business. — AntonioP

Having spent last 20 year in the nicer part of towns and with substantial contact with people from different "better" families, actually married into such a family(which one may say, I should have had this conversation done with years ago but... my new relatives do not want to talk about it. Their leftness is God given...) , it is definitely more sublime. Neighbours that run their own businesses, resents immigrants and taxes are highly scolared, and can take part in any intellectual discussion.

No. This is more sublime. Something like after the enlightment and the french revolution, when the Romanticism flourished. There is something Che Guevarish about especially young people. No one wants solutions. As for immigrants, Much like what God Must Be Atheist kind of says above, "maybe it will get better in 50 years..." and for environmental matters its like "we must find a new lifestyle". There is always something romantic. And not only with the young people. Especially ladys who had their hey days around 68 are spamming facebook flows with "open our hearts" and "find new lifestyle" while the guys going to SD, our semi-nazi party are constantly posting liks to newspaper with crimes committed by immigrant root people and do like the ostrich when CO2 emissions are mentioned.

People seem not to want to acknowledge problems as problems. And bloody difficult problems. Problems that need solutions. And problems where it is wise to go about carefully. As a person that absolutely hate SD, the nationalistic party I would NEVER say that a generous admittance of refugees or immigrants should be allowed, integration MUST work. And I would never say that "there is no CO2 threat, there are scientists saying otherwise bla bla". The romantic left disappeared when the yuppie years arrived and were happily gone until last 10-15 year or so. Now there are posh "activists" all over the place. I feel no need for activism. I feel need for difficult problems handled in a careful manner. General rule - keep the daytime working classes in a position where they feel reasonably safe. And you can do a lot. But those guys don't want revolutions. Che was a medical student...

Notice where the US and Sweden are on this statistics: — ssu

This is very old data. Death by shootings has increased dramatically. But what really make people jam into the nazi-root nationalist party(SD) is the robberys, harrassment, explosions committed by immigrant root people. The political situation is terrible.

Does being gay mean being more... "artistic", "sensitive", and so on? Based on my 74 years of experience as an exclusively gay man, the stereotypically artistic, sensitive, highly emotional homosexual is mostly baloney. Yes, there are gay men who fit that description, but most don't, and of course there are some straight men who do, though most don't.

Are gay men more promiscuous than straight men? Yes. So, AIDS definitely dropped a monkey wrench into the gears of the orgy factory. With appropriate precautions the good times continue to roll, but not quite in as inhibited a manner as before. New diseases require new responses. Is one supposed to wear a mask while getting a blow job in the park? — Bitter Crank

Since the guys I know do not fit into those stereotypes I dont care about them, they do exist, cannot say i love them.

That male gays copulate more than straight guys is to me a no-brainer since it is the women who (with good reasons) are picky and restrictive. If women could be as spontaneous as men the copulation frequency would be higher supposedly. There must be papers on this. Maybe being considered ugly is not as disadvantageous for men as for women? I doubt that gays gets more solely bcause they are gay.

Live in Norway, in the city I live in I've heard reports of racist hostility or violence against:

Two Somali men, one Nigerian man, at least three Eritreans, two Ethiopian men, one Sudanese woman, two Congolese men, two Kurdish men, an Iraqi man and an Iranian man.

Since a couple of years ago, I've seen quite a few people wearing far right signifiers in bars - including a young man with a fucking cobweb on his eye. More of them recently.

The impression I get is that they came out of the woodwork after the Syrian civil war, the "threat of Islamisation" seems to be their animating bugbear at the minute - so I imagine it's continuous with anti-Middle-Eastern racist populism across Europe. — fdrake

You aint from Sweden.

started with Finnland, and the article came from BBC, then went over to Sweden, and the search term brought me this wonderfully infomative response:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Sweden

It's really good, informative, I believe what it says. — god must be atheist

This might possibly have been the situation in 2017(statistics for crimes among immigrants is a politically hot potato) but sadly, things have been worsening since then. The number of robberies where immigrant kids rob ”indigneous” kids have doubled and are now nearing 2000 every year. The robberies are getting more and more brutal too, urinating, beating and even raping. This is highly alarming. ”Indigneous” kids who do not have parents that can arrange for special schools are also systematically bullied by immigrant kids. Bombs exploded in houses where many people lives is also something that do not affect only the intended targets, member of rivalling gangs.

Believe me, the situation is very very bad, has worsen dramatically last years.

Since it is very hard to get answers to this I have began read autobiograpies of famous people born rich and gone left. I read de Beauvoir a couple of years ago, but had to stop when I read about how she made mayhem at home but noone interrupted. She was same age as my grandfather, and if one of his daughters or sons had behaved like that, my great-grandfather, the blacksmith would have had none of it.

Sartres mother was rather the opposite, frightened to subordination, but Sartre himself was spoiled beyond comprehension, if one believes what Sartre himself recites. OK, he was the opposite of DeBeauvoir, little lord Fauntleroy with no father , but still, mo authority, no consequeces if you did bad.

Thats as far as I have come in Le Mots. Extremely well written, and I really looking forward to the further adventures of you g Jean-Paul, and hopefully some answers to my questions.

Now I will check your stories of immigrants beating up local kids, raping them and urinating on them; how often that happens; and what happens to the perpetrators of such crimes. I will also check your stories on drug use and related crimes in your Scandinavian country. I assume it's either Norway, Sweden or Finland. Estonia, Latvia and LIthuania are considered Baltic countries; I don't know if Denmark is counted as Baltic, Scandinavian or simply just Northern European. — god must be atheist

Its Sweden, to make your checkup easier.
Take my word for it, I am NOT a coverup racist who goes looking for arguments to create bad publicity. I have worked multinatioally for decades and love people from different cultures, and do find soulmates from all over the world. What really hurts me is, first of all the suffering and hate between us indigenous and the newcomers. And we do make an extremely bad example for immigration.
If you want to, I can send you articles. Or you can check any of the big newspapers. Aftonbladet.se is free, the closest to social democracy.

Occam goes : skip the socks you look sissy in sandals with socks on anyways.

What, exactly, is (a) homosexual? — tim wood

Why need to be exact? A guy that comes out of the cupboard an admit that he prefers to fuck guys, thats exact enough for me. I only know homo guys and this has been kind of the process. Guess lesbos are pretty much the same.

On Android if you hold your finger down on a word it will eventually highlight — StreetlightX

A-ha! My mother(let her rest in peace) always told me I’m too hasty and how right she was. Thank you! (Replied on my iphone)

There have been enough women fuckers among men and men fuckers among women to let the race survive. That Homosexuals still do exist must mean that there are a strong drift in us to look for a mate and that there is some kind of attraction to the same sex rooted in us. Reading the first dialogues is like reading about a Gay Wunderland. My thought, always having been boringly hererosexual is that the reach out to a person as different to you as a person from another sex is not what you want if you are homo. You want one that is more like yourself. Just what pops up in my head.

Purely mechanical, both holes are attrative for both partners. Its funnny that the shit hole can give so pleasurable feelings. And that is from a deeeply hetero guy.