An electron stuffed with photons... :lol:
— Hillary

Yeah, :roll: thats what I am suggesting — universeness

Woowoo! :lol:

Just like the ancients who believed there were 4 elements only in science earth, air, fire and water! Doyou suggest we go back to that? — universeness

Where did J suggest that?

Or else they were just fed up answering questions that they consider are more at the level of 'crank physics — universeness

"Crank physics" yes, aaaalright. The usual accusation. Just start to learn actual physics. So you might actually understand what I write. Like prof. Harari.

Electrons have mass, photons don't. Photon absorption is an energy exchange which 'excites' the electron (increases its energy level) and makes it move faster, creating increased heat!
1m — universeness

Of course. Ghe photon is absorbed or emitted. An electron stuffed with photons... :lol:

Unlike you, I do not consider my imagination a reliable source of truth! — universeness

Ten take it as an axiom Im an atheist!

Do you think many worlds, so beloved by your idol, are real?

I know that, as none of the names you mentioned such as Penrose, Rovelli, et al propose anything like you for the origin story. — universeness

Penrose is close to my cosmology, in the sense that its a cyclic model. But he offers no solution for DE. I proposed the model on PSE. No comments. Only question closure. So much for free science...

Fire produces smoke, does the smoke exist inside the flame? — universeness

Of course. Smoke resides in the fire... :lol:

You ultimately posit gods as the origin story! That's my problem with that! — universeness

Well, just ignore it! Assume the timeless 5D quantum vacuum eternal.

you try to convince others they exist — universeness

I wont try anymore. If you think they dont exist, so what? I dont mind! But you seem to mind I do.

I did not bring gods alongside physics, you did — universeness

Once. But not now. Im talking physics now, and every time you dont understand or disagree you say "how can that be if you believe in gods", or something like that. So let them stay where they are, ignore them think they dont exist! Whats the problem with that? Imagine Im an atheist!

I know what it means. But it makes no sense. There are no photons inside of electrons. So, absorption is woowoo! :rofl:

Again you use the gods. Leave them! You're a layman in physics. So you can't understand what I'm talking about. So learn some real physics. Not the popular books ala Brian Greene or Rovelli, Penrose, or your idol. But the real stuff. Then we talk! The way we do it now is you just saying I believe in gods. Jesus, whats your problem with that?

also think most would answer 'yes' to 'can photons be absorbed?'
How many physics experts answered no to that question? — universeness

How can it be absorbed? Are there photons in electrons. No.

I would have broadly answered yes to that question myself but I would have added that it has a lot more credibility than the suggestion that gods made the Universe. — universeness

Now again you bring the gods in. Leave them! You just use that to discredit. I have a complete theory for the cosmos. That should suffice.

Two people and a nice note from Harari is not 'many.' — universeness

I knew you would say this! No, but thats because most stick to the mass haucination. Because not being very enlightened or because of lost esteem, or even career. Money!

Im not bound to any community. A free spirit. No need for money, no career at stake, no standard to conform to. Standing on the outside, looking in. Looking through the madness.

"Is all of space one big excitation of fields?" :lol:

I think many physicists can shoot so many holes in your above arguments — universeness

Untill now, they havent succeeded! :lol: Note even one! :lol:

Loose bullets, only. Only softly touching.

And approval from the expert! Look here

And don't say, "that's only one!"...

I think many physicists can shoot so many holes in your above arguments that there is little left of any value. — universeness

Why dont you start learning actual physics? Someone who doesn't know what on mass in particle physics means telling that virtual particles are not real because the majority says so...? :lol:

I don't accept your physics viewpoints because many physicists disagree with you as has been demonstrated on quo — universeness

Many do agree. There are upvotes from two acknowledged physics professors. Book writers. And what about Harari? The problem with experts is that the ones who trust them dint know much about it.. Only when you know what they think you can truly attack them. The layman, like you, just has to trust... which never has been a good base, lemme tellya.

And of course experts might not agree. But thats not falsifying. Of course they disagree. The status quo offers them food and status. And the taxpayer pays. Easy job. Doing nothing of importance and getting free lunch! :rofl:

Science currently has very very very little knowledge of what is actually going on in the vacuum of space. Particles probably don't exist in the traditional point particle or small free, disconnected spherical forms we have envisaged in the past — universeness

But J do know. Particles are no points, but tiny higher dimensional spheres, filled with charge or transporting energy and momentum, like photons. Or carrying metric of spacetime metric. Or carrying energy and momentum and color or electric charge. Or supercolor charge There are 7 basic charges and all couple to the virtual fields, the quantum vacuum, ti interact. Space is made of virtual particles, in a sense. Real particles couple to it to interact. Coupling to the virtual graviton field causes spacetime to curve (graviton condensate).

One can believe in it if one chooses to ignore experts who dissent against it. — universeness

Exactly!

You consider the many worlds in the MWI real?

All that you are influences all that you do and say! You will not escape that, ever! — universeness

Or take the approach to all of life. What about locking up animals in a cage to see what happens if an A-bomb explodes? Suits the scientist well, not to think evil truly exists. Atheism is a freepass to investigate without the ethics proposed by theism, say torturing animals. Life is not considered sacred anymore, i.e., having evolved on a substrate-reality, made by the gods

For example if someone killed 15 people it would be stupid to perform symmetric evil such as to kill 15 members of his relatives in return, killing the person who killed 15 as a punishment is not ideal as well since that's 1 life for 15 and is not painful at all compared to pain of the people whose relatives were killed by him.
Instead asymmetric evil of equal weight may be Cangue https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cangue leaving the person to the mercy of those who lost their relatives, let them decide — SpaceDweller

Sixteen times a lethal injection. Or four electric chairs, four gallows, four bullets, and four injections. At choice, maybe...

All that you are influences all that you do and say! You will not escape that, ever! — universeness

But my physics is inspired by them. Not a bad thing, as far as I can see... :wink:

accept that many 'experts' assign a form of 'existence' to virtual particles but I dont think many of them would use the term REAL for VIRTUAL particles as used in perturbation theory — universeness

Yes, loops are used in perturbation theory. The vacuum contains no real particles but virtual particles are there! The quantum bubbles. Closed isolated loops, which interact with other virtuals (higher order Feynman diagrams). What do you mean if you say the fluctuation is real? Isn't that even weirder? Virtual, in this context and in my humble opinion, just means not on mass-shell. You know what on mass-shell means? It's pretty unreal!

You think that's not the case, apart from gods, the quantum vacuum is filled with fluctuations?

Repeating what the experts say is a more reliable path to follow than repeating what you say about gods. — universeness

Let''s keep the gods out of it. Concentrate on the science. What you suggest is that because I posit gods, my physics is not to be trusted. Think about it! :down:

Anyone who desires a punishment deterrent based on being more evil than the evil perpetrated on victims by evil people, are asking for a dystopian society. — universeness

If institutionalized, yes. In the US it is still allowed. A humane lethal injection. Without pain. You just fall asleep. I sign for it... :flower: :death: :party:

Was that how you created your gods? — universeness

That's how they created the universe.

that's because there are like I said, not real and merely part of mathematical modeling, and yes, that's what the EXPERTS say. — universeness

Exactly what I meant. Parroting the experts. It's exactly the point of disagreement though. There are so-called experts who say virtual particles are real, and the mathematical expressions a mere woowoo fantasy, which is unjustified given real existence It is stated that a particle is an excitation. But then a fluctuation is just as real. Only the fluctuations are not directly observed. Only indirectly.

So, it's parroting, and your comparison to Trump is made to elevate yourself to a height you don't have. Like I said, there are physicists who consider the virtuals real. The math has to describe something. Particles! Not on mass-shell.

It's not a matter of majority votes if they are real or not...

Yeah, that's what I figured you would say! — universeness

:lol:

We get to know each other, brother zuni! Flowers of death...

You can always volunteer to be the first to try out the punishment! I certainly wont volunteer — universeness

Well, a few weeks maybe...

It's always nice to hear a logical voice of reason and rationality break through the din of irrational thinking Tom — universeness

That Voice will lead to the demise of humanity and the planet it lives on. Only if we say farewell to reason (Feyerabend) we might have chance to survive. Only when modern day man looses their mind, we (and all other life) stand a chance.

The past doesn't exist. Only it's virtual image lingers on. All the particles that we're made of, are involve in one big irreversible trip from which is the core of time itself. We don't move trough space though like a dead system does, obeying the principle of least or stationary action. While our individual particles all obey such principle, the whole of our being, maintaining the ordered state against the entropic evil at work, isn't submit to such principle. Only when falling freely through the vacuum, the minimization of the Hilbert-Einstein action guarantees our path of minimum, and for those of the happy few in full understanding of the weirdness of quantum fields, its clear out domain of influence extends to the farthesr stars...

To the past we are connected by the virtual axis of time, a n ideal clock variable, it, extending to the first virtual cauldron from which it all emerged into real existence.

God's Omnipotence is defined as god's ability to do everything, i.e. have immense power. — Augustusea

I consider this pure blasphemy! That's absolutely not what gods are. Its man's vanity talking here.

I believe water is continuous stuff. But its just a bunch of marbles in reality.

What actually drove inflation was a particular state of a 5D quantum spacetime. The 4D space part has the shape of a thin wormhole connecting two hyperbolic infinite spaces, on which two real, closed 3D universes emerged together with entropic time. When the both have accelerated away to infinity, two new one inflate on both sides of the hole. The negative curvature of the 5D quantum vacuum is the motor behind inflation

That may have a mathematical meaning in the context of QM, but it has no logical meaning — Janus

It does. There are two electrons. In superposition.

If they are not at different locations then logically there cannot be two. — Janus

That's why their position doesn't make them different.