Evil can be chased away only with incense and torture but issue is that evil today has run out of control not by amount of evil but rather by count of people tolerating evil. — SpaceDweller
As fire drives out fire... — Brutus
Yes agree, evil is unique to humans, ex. saying that a Lion or Tiger are evil because they eat other animals is nonsense because animals are driven by survival instincts and animals also do not know good and evil unlike humans.So human laws that deal with human evils which have been labeled as such by other humans.
So do you agree that evil does not exist as a fundamental force/power outside of sentient lifeforms? — universeness
If by existence you refer to the devil or the devil tempting people to do evil then I would rather say that this is spiritual existence of evil.Do you think evil has a metaphysical existence? — universeness
Torture is more effective than laws because one is less likely to commit evil works knowing the consequence.Why would evil be scared of torture? is evil not masochistic? Why would evil be afraid of one of its own manifestations? That of torturing others. — universeness
Yes because punishment for evil in earlier times was more adequate than it is today.Compared to all times past? Compared to early tribal cultures? Compared to during the holocaust? — universeness
If by existence you refer to the devil or the devil tempting people to do evil then I would rather say that this is spiritual existence of evil.
but otherwise evil is product of people rather than thing or a being which could exist — SpaceDweller
Why would evil be scared of torture? is evil not masochistic? Why would evil be afraid of one of its own manifestations? That of torturing others.
— universeness
Torture is more effective than laws because one is less likely to commit evil works knowing the consequence — SpaceDweller
Yes because punishment for evil in earlier times was more adequate than it is today. — SpaceDweller
Could evil exist as a quantum field or as a consequence of subatomic interactions or as opposite magnetic poles such as positive and negative attractions, as proposed by Hillary? — universeness
Yes agree, evil is unique to humans, ex. saying that a Lion or Tiger are evil because they eat other animals is nonsense because animals are driven by survival instincts and animals also do not know good and evil unlike humans. — SpaceDweller
Yes because punishment for evil in earlier times was more adequate than it is today.
1h — SpaceDweller
It's the winter of human kind — Hillary
What has become if us? — Hillary
What made us blind? — Hillary
Panpsychism — Hillary
Evil can be chased away only with incense — SpaceDweller
No, definitely not.Could evil exist as a quantum field or as a consequence of subatomic interactions or as opposite magnetic poles such as positive and negative attractions, as proposed by Hillary? — universeness
I told you, because it would scare sh**t out of potential future evil doers.But my question was why do you think pure undiluted evil could be defeated by torturing it? — universeness
All of them, including most horrible such as crucifixion, skinning a live or greek bull.So what forms of earlier punishments would you recommend bringing back? — universeness
I would bring or judge death penalty only for evil acts which cause death of whomever.Would you bring back the death penalty for all evil acts or just some — universeness
how do you prevent the death of the small minority, who are later discovered to be innocent? — universeness
I thought I may as well ask you about this one as well.
Are you suggesting that if I was an evil deranged serial killer in the house of my next intended victim and I was ready to strike, that I may be dissuaded for my evil act if my indented victim lit some incense?
Certain smells can cause evil to run away in fear? Is that what you are suggesting? — universeness
Why should evil be punished or prevented in the first place? — Hillary
because nobody wants evil. — SpaceDweller
Evil can be chased away only with incense — SpaceDweller
But my question was why do you think pure undiluted evil could be defeated by torturing it?
— universeness
I told you, because it would scare sh**t out of potential future evil doers. — SpaceDweller
Pheromones, perfume, cologne...what do they do? — Agent Smith
But it exists in the very basics of the universe. To get rid of it means to get rid of the universe and humanity. The evil is part of all of us. That's why science is scary. — Hillary
to prevent such evil punishment must be severe — SpaceDweller
Do you approve of this idea or do you think this shows that hell, horror and terror are only limited by what a human imagination can perceive? I am sure someone could come up with an even worse punishment than this quite disturbing suggestion. Do you really think that encouraging competitive evil is the way forward for a future human justice system? — universeness
Is that supposed to be a punishment? How lovely it would be to be just buried, get your food and drink, and just lay back... only the pile of excrements will gonna be smelly.. — Hillary
Absolutely not. I think resorting to evil to to deal with evil as a general approach is stunted and just smacks of a person who is aroused by and interested in abject cruelty. — Tom Storm
It's always nice to hear a logical voice of reason and rationality break through the din of irrational thinking Tom — universeness
You can always volunteer to be the first to try out the punishment! I certainly wont volunteer — universeness
Well, a few weeks maybe.. — Hillary
Yeah, that's what I figured you would say! — universeness
We get to know each other, brother zuni! Flowers of death... — Hillary
Anyone who desires a punishment deterrent based on being more evil than the evil perpetrated on victims by evil people, are asking for a dystopian society. — universeness
If institutionalized, yes. In the US it is still allowed. A humane lethal injection. Without pain. You just fall asleep. I sign for it.. — Hillary
Your imagination for punishment methods is funny, but some facts about most severe evil must be taken into account:They are placed alive in the same coffin as one or more of their victims. But they will be constrained to an apparatus around the body... — universeness
Yes as long there is guarantee that such punishments are not abused and used only for most serious and most disgusting crimes.Do you really think that encouraging competitive evil is the way forward for a future human justice system? — universeness
For example if someone killed 15 people it would be stupid to perform symmetric evil such as to kill 15 members of his relatives in return, killing the person who killed 15 as a punishment is not ideal as well since that's 1 life for 15 and is not painful at all compared to pain of the people whose relatives were killed by him.
Instead asymmetric evil of equal weight may be Cangue https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cangue leaving the person to the mercy of those who lost their relatives, let them decide — SpaceDweller
Capital punishment by lethal injection does not fit the kind of deterrent punishments suggested by SpaceDweller. My dialogue was about his suggestions for a future human justice system. — universeness
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