Quantum gravity' rings any bells? — 180 Proof

Too many But I got over it. The problem lies in the connection of gravitons with space. String theory says that the vacuum is a condensate of closed strings, but obviously the background independence isn't achieved by this. So forget quantum gravity and look for a more modern solution. And even if it were accurate, where does the non-emergent predecessor of emergent thermodynamic time and 3d space come from?

Get a grip and take control. When usually misery lies in the heart of control, you can make the opposite happen.

Leaving aside the inane suggestion regarding extraterrestrials, there is an interesting point about Anselm's ontological argument that I feel is often not noticed or made explicit. — Wayfarer

Why is that an inane suggestion? It's far more probable they walk around than that we're alone.

A post of serious interest as a pleasant interlude in the knucklehead tennis match taking up most of this thread. Thanks for that. — T Clark

The lost generation. Gods have left the building!

So, the question is, what could 'existence is a perfection mean'? Especially consider the manifestly imperfect nature of existence as we know it. — Wayfarer

The temporally material universe (but eternally repeating) and life in it is a perfect copy of non-material eternal heaven. The creation of the divine matter, necessary to let life evolve, can be seen as a perfect intelligence of the gids, of which one is present in heaven for all forms of universal life. Even in-vitro people have their divine counterpart. So getting to know life is getting to know gods.

Can't you two talk about smart bs in your discussion? If no one is interested in my topic then make it disappear
2mReplyOptions — Vincent

You're right Vincent! I forgot it was your thread! Sorry! :heart:

We were talking about money though. Carroll could have answered for free!

Pessimism and nihilistic context is more comfortable — javi2541997

Dear mother of god... ........



:lol:

I will target it toward physics specialists on quora who have answered me before and I will provide a link here to their responses. if you want. — universeness

Yes, that's a great idea. Ill PM you about the question. Its about the parts of quarks and leptons. Good idea! Ill formulate the question when return from walking woofwoof! :up:

I think you have very good arguments and a well refutation, but sadly, you end up defending God not matter the context or circumstances and that's weak — javi2541997

I think it's weak to deny them (and there are zillions!) if you have seen them and they spoke to you.

Hidden variables, a valid theory of QM, offer a means for gods to interact. But the effect is subtle. I saw them, the gods, busy in a dream. As if they told me their story.

No, I am a fan of all current cosmologists, mostly equally.
I am a great admirer of many scientists also, past and present.
1m — universeness

Ah, I see. Idol is religious...

So a page a day, how many pages in your paper/book? It should be easy to predict a finished date. — universeness

Well, I take my adventures on the net on many sites, as leitmotiv. I hop from subject to subject, ban after ban, and offer great insight in the human psyche! Lemme tellya! You truly get to know some characters! Right now Im writing about economy and the brain. Each chapter has a subject. The altruist gene, the rishon divide, the infinite memory, etc.

you have just projected 'fan' to 'great idol.' — universeness

Huh? Isnt Carroll your idol?

You should be busy forming questions for all those physicists on quora instead of complaining about Sean Carroll here. — universeness

Like I said, Quora doesn't accept non standard physics. Physics forum and stack exchange neither. Banned before. Even from a science forum here!

Hah! Whose projecting who? you have just projected 'fan' to 'great idol.' — universeness

:rofl:

You showed that Mr Harari offered a little credence to your position? Is that all you have?
Why don't you ask a question on Quora and highlight it, particularly to people such as Victor T Toth. — universeness

I have suggested it on almost all physics forums! They ban you or close the question. Im writing it all up now, little by little. I have a few hundred pages and write about a page a day. Who needs Carroll? His woowoo is nonsense. He has no real genius. Only conventional views. A conformist.

No, you misunderstand. I mean I don't get your complaint against Sean Carroll. — universeness

Yes, I know. But I meant that Carroll doesn't know what I mean in my cosmoligy.

I am a fan of Sean Carroll. — universeness

Why should I be bitter? You projecting again! I feel better than ever! Who cares that your great idol doesn't understand. Not me! :lol:

Yes, and this I contest. — Jackson

What intelligence has a particle? How it creates itself out of the blue, even if eternal?

Why you want to measure gods?
— Hillary

I don't know. This is what I should ask you: why do you want to measure gods? — javi2541997

I don't.

Actual existent: Actual existence (observed, measurable, inactive or changing) — javi2541997

Actual existent is not the same as measurable. If you want proof that bad, you can open your hart to them. And let them in. At least, the knowledge that they exist. Or you can look in quantum mechanical experiments.

Why does there have to be a reason? — Jackson

Because I believe in rationallity, the ratio. And non-intelligent particles in a quantum vacuum are too stupid to have come into existence by themselves.

How can you measure "God"? :yikes: so you have said this morning that measuring universe is wacky but at the same time time yeah, we can measure a subterfuge — javi2541997

Why you want to measure gods? They speak in dreams or minds.

If the universe always existed then why does it need a reason? — Jackson

There might not be a first cause, but there just has to be a reason for life. To think not is irrational.

That's nice. — Jackson

Why did you assume Im a Christian?

What science says the world always existed? — Jackson

Then it still needs a reason it exists.

How do you know there was? — Jackson

How you know there wasn't? Scientific dogma tells you that.

Im no Christian. I dont believe in God.

So the universe exists without a reason? All life exists without a reason?

There was no creation. — Jackson

How do you know?

But how did it create itself? What intelligence matter particles have to create themselves?

Is it really going to happen or is it all scaremongering? — Vincent

Kn the basis of present observations, a reasonable extrapolation to the future shows a grim, dark future. I hesitate to call this Armageddon or the apocalypse, because of the biblical connotations of a god letting his wrath descend on a rotten non-believing humanity. There are non-western cultures, like the Hopi, who make similar predictions (call them a sjibollet). The reason is not disobeying gods but bringing chaos to nature. They object to technology (like Quakers?), which they consider a move away from humanity and an invitation to natural disaster. Of course, you could consider paradise the state of nature unchanged or redirected by human hands, which has a kind of religious load.

Anyhow, as long as technological progress and economical growth are considered measures of progress, it could very well be that the techno-economic TGV speeds up more and more, with an increasing load and that the drivers and maintenance personnel are blind to the abyss it's speeding to.

So, God should exist to satisfy your cause-effect mental scheme, — Angelo Cannata

It's the opposite. The universe satisfies my cause-effect scheme, and because the cause-effect scheme can't explain it's own existence, there has to be a non-causal reason for it's existence, i.e. ,gods

Patreon is involved with hundreds of podcasts on youtube so he and they can't be making that much from his mindscape stuff.
Why would he need to take a professorship if he was making a fortune from answering questions on internet podcasts? — universeness

Exactly because of his professorship he shouldn't ask money. If he gets that little, why ask anything überhaupt? He shows no love for knowledge. Just his own woowoo and need to show off. How much earns a professor? 10 00 per month? Not enough?

Well, I doubt they will respond if they think you offered an imbalanced critique. — universeness

An unbalanced critique? I just asked what he thought about the cosmology I hold. Literally no one has offered a serious counter! I begin to think that something so obvious is pretty difficult to understand after all!

Why would he need to take a professorship if he was making a fortune from answering questions on internet podcasts?
5m — universeness

Well, then he should guarantee an answer. Which he doesn't.

Well, I doubt they will respond if they think you offered an imbalanced critique. — universeness

I doubt too. They ignore the non-standard. Tell me about it!

Well, I certainly don't see what you mean — universeness

I meant my cosmology and view on particles and spacetime.

Look. Carroll offers woowoo. He sells it. He asks money. For his books and even for an answer! What difference is there with any other woowoo salesman? The scigodians? Ziltch!

I disagree. They fit in actual existent. The only in which they can exist! You can choose to ignore them, of course...

Save it for the shoutbox, you may get banned otherwise — universeness

It's a joke! With which I ridiculed the idea of body improvement by tech woowoo. Why not be satisfied with our godz-given bodies?

Yes. The mindblog. But, as expected, no response. Talking about money... Money should be banned! Carroll is just a greedy man, taking advantage of his woowoo, which he obviously sells. I think nobody can see what I actually mean.

Genitalia will be involved for sure. — universeness

"Doctor, can my pussy be juiced up?" :lol:

rather than Sean Carroll! — universeness

Which reminds me! I commented in the April blog! :grin:

You should discuss your particular needs with the developers. — universeness

:lol: