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  • Mental to mental causation is not possible if mental events are related

    Oh, thanks for letting me know. I changed the OP slightly to consider your correction.
  • The End of the Western Metadiscourse?

    He is correct if any form of life is possible, shortly after the Third World War.
  • What are you listening to right now?
    Led Zeppelin - Kashmir



    Led Zeppelin - Stairway To Heaven

  • What is right and what is wrong and how do we know?
    Humans do evil things, such as murder other humans and other organisms. If human nature is good, why do they do evil things?Truth Seeker
    Human nature is not perfectly good. You can find evil people as well, such as sadists, rapists, etc.
  • The End of the Western Metadiscourse?
    People absolutely have to provoke one another to see if nuclear warheads will show up. They can't just sit there and act like they have some sense.frank
    Einstein said that there is no end to human stupidity! I hope he is wrong.
  • The End of the Western Metadiscourse?

    I agree, excluding the occasional nuclear war.
  • The End of the Western Metadiscourse?
    It seems quite possible to me that China will eclipse the USA as the dominant world hegemon in the near future but that gives me no joy.Wayfarer
    I have the same feeling. China may eventually produce more GDP than the USA since it has a larger population. China, however, suffers from problems such as corruption, no freedom of speech, etc., so it will produce less GDP per capita.
  • On emergence and consciousness
    This argument works from the perspective of Physics. But, in Aristotle's Meta-Physics, he introduces the non-physical notions of Potentiality & Actuality*1, Form & Matter, Essence & Substance. Hence, the Function of a System is non-physical, even though the parts are material items. It's a mathematical input/output relationship that you can't see, but can infer as purpose or meaning.Gnomon
    Mental phenomena, to me, are divided into strong and weak emergence as well. The example of weak emergence is perception, and the example of strong emergence is creating an idea.
  • References for discussion of mental-to-mental causation?

    Mental to mental causation is not possible, granting that mental phenomena are coherent, even if we accept that one mental event, let's call it A, can create another mental event, let's call it B. Each mental event has a certain mental content (MC), let's call MCA and MCB, respectively, as the MC of A and the MC of B. The information about what B should be in the future is extra content, and it is necessary at the moment when A creates B. This information, however, changes the content of A, which is not acceptable. Therefore, mental to mental causation is not possible if mental phenomena are coherent.
  • What is right and what is wrong and how do we know?
    How do you define good and evil?Truth Seeker
    I already defined good in my post. Evil is the opposite.
  • What is right and what is wrong and how do we know?

    What is right depends on your alignment, good or evil. Humans have evolved socially and physiologically over the Ages. Human nature is good; by good, I mean humans prefer pleasure over pain. The social laws that everybody is talking about are the result of the social and physiological evolution, which is, of course, biased by human nature.
  • Arguments From Underdetermination and the Realist Response

    A theory is valid just within the precision of data. Given that the precision in data is limited, anything that one can imagine can happen beyond the limit of the data's precision, referred to as spiritual reality.
  • Evidence of Consciousness Surviving the Body
    I want to thank everyone who responded to this thread. It lasted 8 years, and this is my last post. Thanks again.Sam26
    It is very sad to see that you leave your thread. I have to say that you are a very patient philosopher and scientist. Oh, man, this thread is so long! Thanks for your contribution.
  • What are you listening to right now?
    For The Love Of God - Steve Vai - Cover by Tina S



    Steve Vai - For the Love of God

  • Evidence of Consciousness Surviving the Body
    Because non-physical entities do not have spatial locations...Srap Tasmaner
    Where did you take that from?
  • Evidence of Consciousness Surviving the Body

    I love that analysis. Keep it up!
  • From morality to equality
    That does not seem possible. The subconscious is not thought to be accessible. The pre-conscious, however, is. If that's all you meant, then I agree, but the chances that you can access anything you've not, at some stage, consciously come into contact with, is next to zero. I'm open, but no one's ever been able to show that they've gained information they couldn't have had previously on psychedelics. Despite claims of such.AmadeusD
    When it comes to the conscious mind, preconsciousness is a term that refers to the accumulation of data in the conscious mind. If the data is proper, then a chain of thought is generated by the conscious mind. The conscious mind has an important duty: processing the delivered data very fast. The conscious mind has a very limited memory; this memory is registered for important topics only. But if you read what I wrote once more carefully, you will then realize that the conscious mind cannot do its job without a perfect intervention of the subconscious mind. You work on a topic given the limited related data, finish the job by creating a new idea, and then the conscious mind is done and stays silent. That is what you are, the conscious mind. Like it or not, without the subconscious mind, you can do very limiting things. There would be no long stream of thoughts, no long stream of words, no communication, etc. The subconscious mind is huge. It has access to all the ideas generated by the conscious mind. It also knows what kind of data might be relevant when it comes to processing the data, which might lead to the creation of a new idea. I think you at least face the subconscious mind when you are on the drug! What do you expect to find? Wonder!
  • What are you listening to right now?
    Spin Twice - What’s Wrong With Me?



    Spin Twice - Tidal Wave

  • What are you listening to right now?
    Gary Moore - The Loner Cover by Tina S



    Gary Moore - The Loner

  • What are you listening to right now?
    Ludwig van Beethoven - Moonlight Sonata ( 3rd Movement ) Tina S Cover



    Beethoven - Moonlight Sonata (3rd Movement)

  • The Concept of 'God': What Does it Mean and, Does it Matter?
    Obviously, I am sure that many people in philosophy circles would scorn the process superstition. For those who pray, it is to whichever God one believes in but prayer is central to the Judaeo-Christian tradition.Jack Cummins
    That is a tricky business since you are doomed if you don't believe in the correct God!
  • What are you listening to right now?
    Ludwig Van Beethoven's "Moonlight Sonata" performed by Eric Henderson



    Beethoven - Moonlight Sonata

  • What are you listening to right now?
    The Alan Parsons Project - I Robot

  • What are you listening to right now?
    The Alan Parsons Project - Lucifer

  • On emergence and consciousness
    I think we know consciousness is there for a similar reason.Patterner
    Consciousness, to me, is the ability of the mind to experience, so we cannot measure it. We cannot measure consciousness if it is used as a synonym of experience as well.

    Consciousness isn't explained by the physical properties of the universe.Patterner
    Sure. It is the basic assumption of physicalism that an electron, for example, doesn't experience.

    Something we can't detect with all our sciences is there.Patterner
    The mind, although it is present, is a light substance, so we cannot detect it, at least at the current stage of scientific development.
  • The Concept of 'God': What Does it Mean and, Does it Matter?
    This is so different from the idea of a personal relationship with God which is held by many religious believers. The idea of prayer only makes sense from that perspective.Jack Cummins
    And to which God should one pray?
  • Deep Songs
    Estas Tonne - Fusion

  • What are you listening to right now?
    Estas Tonne - Golden Dragon Internal Flight

  • The Concept of 'God': What Does it Mean and, Does it Matter?

    God is defined as the first creator. God does not matter when it comes to a normal life since it seems that He left us on our own.
  • On emergence and consciousness
    I'm suggesting we need a new version of science. All our sciences use the physical to explore the physical.Patterner
    We are dealing with an anomaly, so-called experience, within physicalism. I agree that we need to discard physicalism/materialism. We at least need two different substances, the so-called experiencer and the object of experience, if you want to describe the phenomenon of experience coherently.
  • Strong Natural Theism: An Alternative to Mainstream Religion
    Freedom of indifference and freedom for excellence are incompatible theories.Bob Ross
    I don't understand why they are incompatible. I can choose to always do right, given the fact that there are at least two right options available to choose from; otherwise, no decision is involved, since I have only one choice. At the same time, I can choose to do wrong. I am a free agent in the end.

    whereas if one accepts freedom of indifference, then God is and is the only possibly perfectly unfree being because He cannot will what is bad (or, depending on the view, He may not be able to do otherwise whatsoever).Bob Ross
    That is a very odd position, but granting it, then why did God create creatures with the ability to do contrary?
  • Strong Natural Theism: An Alternative to Mainstream Religion
    Yes, but the goal is to explain the relevant data without multiplying entities without necessity; not come up with the simplest answer.Bob Ross
    You are introducing unnecessary substances.

    A conscious being, as I understand it, has a qualitative experience—qualia--such that there is something to be them experiencing the world. In a literal sense, this would require a being with complexity: with parts to facilitate a mediated interpretation of reality.Bob Ross
    No, God can be simple and yet experience everything. He just needs to be omnipresent.
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    Because His experience of His experience is an experience. So if He has to experience His experiences, then He would also have to experience His experience of His experience and so on.Bob Ross
    We perceive a substance when we experience something. The same applies to God, so no regress is involved.
  • What are you listening to right now?
    Mari Samuelsen: Vivaldi - "Summer" from Four Seasons

  • What are you listening to right now?
    Ana Vidović plays J.S. Bach - Partita in E-major

  • From morality to equality
    I could tlel you that Jesus spoke to me in a dream and told me 9/11 would happen a week before it did. Big whoopee.AmadeusD
    Really? And you think that Jesus is made in your mind, too?

    You do have answers to your questions. That's logically deducible from the facts at hand: You are the only person around. You answer your own questions. Presto!AmadeusD
    I would say that you get access to the content of the subconscious mind when you are on a drug.
  • Evidence of Consciousness Surviving the Body
    So, since the subconscious mind is not conscious (by definition) consciousness is not required for the creation of ideas?wonderer1
    Thinking is about working with ideas to create new ideas. Thinking, therefore, is a conscious activity. Therefore, the subconscious mind is conscious as well if it can create a new idea since it has to think.
  • What are you listening to right now?
    Estas Tonne - The Song of the Golden Dragon