Common sense, if it means non-mathematical wisdom, is at best confined to Earth and at worst to a community - patterns that are local — TheMadFool
Because I have, for hogs, and I can tell you that no, not at all, the beasts do not die well or cleanly. — Akanthinos
give us the right to do bad things to other sentient beings. — petrichor
Have you worked on a kill floor before? — Akanthinos
Cows produce lots of greenhouse gases and contribute in a big way to global warming.
— petrichor
Cows are carbon neutral. This is a false argument and quite a desperate ploy to traduce herbivores in general. The planet is capable of making x amount of biomass. All plant matter eventually rots or passed through an animal, cows, monkeys, or widebeasts; human too, makes no difference. If a cow had not eaten the food the greenhouse gasses would have been farted out by a vegetarian, or eventually rotted away expressing the gas then. A cow is just a part of the carbon cycle. — charleton
Humans are animals. — petrichor
If my enslavement and eating of a group of humans — petrichor
other beings simply do not belong to us to do with as we please. — petrichor
Cows produce lots of greenhouse gases and contribute in a big way to global warming. — petrichor
Surely, you mean that these domesticated animals wouldn't be on the land — petrichor
I forgot to address this. Even if all that were true, it wouldn't make it okay. It would be wrong even if we fed them a constant supply of pleasure drugs. — petrichor
False analogy.Put humans in their place and see if you think it would be okay. Round up all the homeless struggling for survival and do to them what we do to food animals. Would this be right? — petrichor
Have you looked into what conditions are like in factory — petrichor
If all the cattle were free-range cattle, it wouldn't be quite so bad, but it would still be wrong. — petrichor
And do they die without pain? Some methods are fairly quick, but there is a lot of fear and often struggle involved. — petrichor
I didn't want to get involved in this discussion. But this is irrelevant. Play the ball not the man (even if your opponent won't). — Baden
It's more about Zionism as opposed to Judaism. — René Descartes
I assure you that no Disneyesque image of a talking, dancing animal ever came into my mind in the examination that I went throught that led me to stop eating meat. — petrichor
Humans are more valuable for sure, in my way of looking at all this — petrichor
Sure, our position may not be as well justified as the pythagorean theorem, — petrichor
You might be surprised if you cared to talk to one. — petrichor
By the way, most Zionists in Israel have wanted nothing from the USA, PROVIDED the USA stops financing Israel's enemies. That has never happened. The USA actually gives far more to Israel's enemies than it does to Israel. — LD Saunders
I never said any of that. I was quoting someone else and you are saying that I said it. I agree with you. — René Descartes
It seems problematic to me that vegan (and possibly vegetarian ethics) hinges on the claim that we don't need to eat meat. — Andrew4Handel
(1) Reductionism and (2) determinism. — Kitty
there couldn't even be a universe in the first place because the concept of a universe is a human invention. — Purple Pond
The USA actually gives far more to Israel's enemies than it does to Israel. — René Descartes
The USA actually gives far more to Israel's enemies than it does to Israel.
— LD Saunders — René Descartes
that's not much of an argument — jkg20
I would still like your opinion on the matter. Do you not seek justice and avoid injustice, at least to yourself, if not to others too? — Samuel Lacrampe
No, it is the argument made by anyone who knows anything about farming. Land, particularly semi-desert is not valuable, at best in can be used for seasonal grazing. You have to invest in it before it becomes productive. — Londoner
Charleton: No, it's not true, — LD Saunders
The region was governed by the Egyptians and Hittites before there was any such thing as a Hebrew. Per Netanyahu's own expressed logic, the area should be split between Egypt and Turkey and the Jews should evacuate entirely. — frank
There was something of that notion in early Jewish settlements in Palestine, They were taking on unproductive land, so bringing it into production would benefit everyone. — Londoner
We need goods and services. This causes people to focus on things which produce necessary goods and services. This causes a loss of individual freedom to think about other things. Post hoc justifications are then put in place from social promptings- "work hard, play hard", the novelty of a "new" career move, a slight "raise", "group think", "team meetings", etc. This is the best we can do? — schopenhauer1
It sounds like my argument, to be totally frank. I'm guessing you agree with it — Abdul
Elephants will learn to jump rope before ________. — Purple Pond
What is it about the past that fascinates us? Why is it so hard to just “leave it all behind?” — Abdul
Your____ gives me the _____. — CuddlyHedgehog
Is everything really a matter of personal opinion? — Sapientia
But by contrast, this guy is not going to get kicked out of the conservative party anytime soon. — unenlightened
No it's TRUE.It's amazing how many crazy Jew-hating comments are on here. Hitler supported Israel? — LD Saunders
Immigration policy to so-called "Israel" has denied non-Jews. That is racism.That's absolutely false. Israel is a racist state? False.
an ancient people from the verge of extinction? — Hanover
LOL - do you even read what I write?! I said the POSSIBILITY of gout is necessitated by our biological structure. Not the actuality of it. So I don't have it right now, but it's always possible that I will get it. — Agustino
It is fucking dire because its message is so infantile and easy to understand that it is immensely more attractive than reality. — jastopher