My pappy told me that whenever anyone calls something crap, it means its doo doo, and doo doo is bad 'cause its full'o'germs. — Merkwurdichliebe

Good for your dad, very sensible education he gave you.

But who called anything crap? :gasp:

Wallow in prostration with me. — Wallows

Yeah, move over. :cry:

Now that, I can believe. — S

But you don't know what it is that I don't know, which makes you even worse than me. :lol:

Why do people not bother answering questions here. How can it be the greatest thread ever if no one answers questions.

About what?

So very pessimistic. — Merkwurdichliebe

Why?

In what way do you disagree?

Should This Thread Be Considered?

Considered as in, as in being a load of crap.

Considered as in, believed to be a load of crap.

Considered as in, thought of as being a load of crap.

Considered as in, looked upon as a load of crap.

I don't do not know. :chin:

I don't see how there isn't an extension of thought/intellect/intelligence in a building designed by an architect. — Anaxagoras

A building is the results of his thought process, his thoughts do not continue into the building.

Depends on which humans survive. If a catastrophe happens and people like the Sentinelese survive I doubt we will see technology of our kind again. — Anaxagoras

Someone beat me to the answer.

Why? 10,000 years ago we were all like the Sentinelese. And yet here we are now. — Michael

:up:

OMG Sir! Help! I need your skills my friend! :strong: — ArguingWAristotleTiff

Good evening ma'm, I'm the senior vise president of the company.
We offer free quotes and advice on building methods, experience with flood and earthquake proofing, the best rates in town, and we provide a free pizza delivery for all customs spending more that US$10,00o, and we're open for business 24/7.

How may I help you?

Technology is an extension of man's thought. You destroy that you destroy every trace of man's genius. Again, we are talking about a catastrophe. — Anaxagoras

Technology is the result of man's intelligence/intellect, not an extension of it. Man created the technology from nothing and if humanity one day ends up with no technology then it will start all over again.

What's a Easter? — S

Nice one mate. :cool:

I want to now ask anyone interested in this topic to share the ethical implications you feel having this done to a someone undermines as a private citizen who has Human Rights.

I'm more referring to "vigilante" private citizens. A formed group composed of those whom are technologically proficient and whom may have the resources necessary to hack someone. Their motivation may be to "karmically" punish someone for interests found to be reprehensible and suspect. Invading such an individual's privacy systematically (phone camera, audio, geo-location, online activities, accounts, etc.) being their method of obtaining intimate details.They may then weaponize the information they've gleaned against such an individual.Even though this is considered very unlikely, it's not altogether implausible. — THX1138

As you and others have stated, there are hackers getting information from all kinds of websites and even websites that are set up for the purpose of obtaining information about people then disappearing. Banks have been known to share information about you spending habits. Interactive devices that sit around your house, even your cellphone listens to you. Cameras, public and private follow you around watching what you are doing. You are being monitored, most people that live in even small towns are. You cannot escape it unless you move to the woods.

Is it morally correct to monitor people? That would depend on what was done with the information gained from doing so. Murderers and other criminal have been caught, traffic problems have been prevented from becoming dangerous to motorists, people are being provided with better services when shopping and many other examples of benign use can be shown.

But if the information being garnered was to be used for targeting individuals for financial gain or even for screwing people's lives up just for fun, then that is highly immoral.

Sometimes it takes a decision. Once that's done, it becomes clear it was always a decision - whether one knew it or not. — tim wood

Transgender six year old. Absurd or not? Take a decision.

Don't encourage me to rant, here! — tim wood

I don't encourage anyone to rant, ........................well maybe sometimes. :halo:

It's a bit rich to insist on a detailed project plan at this stage... — Banno

Not really insisting, more like asking if he has any new ideas that are maybe not as well known as those we see in the news papers everyday.
Basically the post is a summary of what most reasonably informed people know already, but they known for years and very little is being done to fix any of the problems.

Supermarkets now want to sell/fine you for using plastic bags, but half of the products you buy are wrapped in one use plastic. And the common person does not give a shit about it.
Not many want to give up their cars and take the bus or the train and it would cause havoc the day even 20% percent of them did actually try.
There are too many people in the world and they are living longer but no one can stop people from having kids. China tried and look what happened to them.
There is not enough food to feed all of the people in some places, but tons of food are thrown away everyday in other places.

Up until now I have heard lots of people saying that something needs to be done, but I have not heard of really feasible plans to do it.

a bit like asking for a second engineer's report when the wing has fallen off. — Banno

My dad used to say that it was like inquiring about the pumps when the officers mess had water on the floor. The bloody ship is sinking.

What's a troll? — S

A supernatural being that usually lives in a cave. That is why we do not see too many of them around here. They hate enlightenment.

Nice to see that even at Easter you are ignoring the Easter eggs. :clap:

I welcome debate. Go ahead. — Nasir Shuja

Congratulations! You are person number 1,000,000,001 to say all of these things.

Please explain how any of the ideas you propose would be carried out. Saying it is one thing, doing it is something else.

Bet you are think that the devil is a troll. :naughty:

It's the whole idea of "cis." — tim wood

At least he made the effort to keep things clear.

And fair chance you think it's an unnecessary absurdity as I do. — tim wood

Whether absurdities are necessary or not I gave up trying to figure out a long time ago. In today's world it is sometimes even difficult to decide if somethings are absurd or not. I start doubting if one still has the ability to distinguish it from the norm. :gasp:

Philosophy doesn't require technology, and technology hasn't advanced philosophy, it's made it less useful. What would a "knowledge and technology catastrophe" look like? — whollyrolling

As you stated, it has already happened. Civilizations have been wiped out with all of there knowledge by barbarian hordes that destroy everything in their path including libraries that contain centuries of information. But the survivors sometimes have started again with the little that was left.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_destroyed_libraries

No it hasn't. I'm talking about a catastrophe with all of our knowledge, and technology as we have today because it is from technology that we have advanced much in philosophical knowledge regarding the world. — Anaxagoras

We have advanced in scientific knowledge but I don't think philosophy has come too far in the last few thousand years. There are new ideas, and as always their respective opposing arguments. There are new perspectives, some of which have come about through technology, but technology and science are separate entities. Whilst they work hand in hand to confound the two is a mistake.
Philosophy and the history of philosophy are two different things, the first is not 100% dependent on the second.
Technology and the history of technology cannot be separated the first is based 100% on the second.

May I - should I - assume Pattern-chaser is being sardonic? — tim wood

Honest I think. :chin:

May a person know what part of speech "cis" is? — tim wood

Of or relating to people whose gender identity is the same as their birth sex; not transgender

Lots of good reading, a few things to laugh about. What more could anyone ask for in a virtual setting.
*****

Awesome, I shall PM you my bank details shortly. — Mr Phil O'Sophy

I am really a Gambian prince with lots of money I need to get out of the country. If you want to help me I will give you 25% of anything you help me with.

Please send me the bank info so that I can make the withdrawals deposits to your account.

"More about shadow and Other "

Did I miss episode 1?
I hope so.

Right but the inquiries that we all seek and share here will be lost. — Anaxagoras

We are doing almost the same today as they have done for the last few thousand years, anywhere language exists they will continue to discuss the same topics.

The contemplative "does God exist" or "I think therefore I am" will too, be lost in the rubble of human civilization. — Anaxagoras

Maybe it will change to "Why did god do this to us?". Or "I am therefore I must think to survive".

True, it would be a different type of wisdom but it would seem that the investigative inquiries and all of the historical elements that make up modern philosophical thought will be all lost. — Anaxagoras

There would be a great deal of loss of knowledge maybe, but humans will still have to eventually ponder the answers to the same questions. It might take a couple of hundred years or even a couple of thousand but philosophy will always be a part of humanity. Maybe they will come up with better, more intelligent answers than we have.

Any world changing event that leaves even small groups of humans will still not wipe out all of technology. Finding out how to make it work again will be the biggest problem they will face, and no I do not mean the internet or even electricity, I mean food production.

but will philosophy remain? — Anaxagoras

Yes, people will always love wisdom.

It might be a different type of wisdom though.

Introduce your friend to S. S knows all about dealing with obnoxious people.
Start walking around in one of those bright green or yellow t-shirts with his picture on the front and back and bright text that says "Property of Florida State Mental Health Detainment Center". That should make him think twice about hanging out with you.


Now I too have a problem, I need a certain amount of money to pay for some very important things. But I wont be able to pay it back for a couple of years.
Any offers.

Depends if harm is involved. — Anaxagoras

Sorry, I reread and edited something.

Surely sadists of the extreme kind tend to gravitate towards others of like mind. — Anaxagoras

I would not know much about that, but a lot of the murders you see on TV are pretty gruesome. If people were obliged to not do unto others what they would not like having done to them it might make them think before doing bad things.
An eye for an eye seems very appropriate in some cases.

Going back to my favorite subject aside from philosophy which is psychology, how do you reconcile your above reformatted quote with someone who has social anxiety disorder? — Anaxagoras

How do you relate the original with someone that has extreme sadistic/masochistic tendencies?

Surely it would perpetuate the behavior of one sick son of a bitch and hurt a lot of poor victims.

Edited because of missing masochist.....

fer ducks sake as a home owner I don't know of a scarier idea than Termites! :gasp: — ArguingWAristotleTiff

They are the reason I went all metal framework when I rebuilt my house. Rather have a pit of rust than those bloody things.

But the boy continued to be bullied. It took a terrific toll on his thinking capacity. He learned to be quicker with snide comments and half assed replies to things he did not like.
He became a philosophy forum troll.

Thoughts? — Anaxagoras

I always thought that this was badly written. It would make much more sense if it said,

"Don't do to others things that you don't want them to do to you".

Stated thus it would be applicable anywhere at any time.

Just a fleeting thought. — whollyrolling

Not everyone is like that, but there are too many. Some have recently read a bit of a book or read someone else's post on another site and them come here and blather on about it.
What I find even more annoying is when they quote those famous people as if their words were gospel.

Just let me know when you fall asleep. Oh, wait. :chin: — Purple Pond

Now you have something else to think about. :lol:

Invention is defined as something crafted by humans. — Blackhole94

No it is not, that is only part of the meaning. Bread was an invention, arrived at through experiments. Peeling bananas is an action, and it is doubtful there was an inventor.

Invent: Come up with (an idea, plan, explanation, theory, or principle) after a mental effort

Invention: A creation (a new device or process) resulting from study and experimentation

Basically, I’m looking for a proper definition of “invent” that excludes things like peeling a banana — Blackhole94

Where did you even get the idea that peeling a banana could be said to be inventing. :rofl:

Why don't you try telling us what the dictionary says and then tell us what is wrong with that definition.

The rest of you aren't Narcissus. — S

Praise be to Murphy for that small blessing. :pray:

I'm stuck here until I turn into a flower. — S

How long do you reckon it will be before that blessing happens? :cool:

Some of us are trying to lovingly gaze at their own reflection in a puddle. — S

Be truthful, because it is only you that does that sort of thing.

The rest of us have mirrors for that. :smirk: