Got any last words? — ArguingWAristotleTiff

Ultima palabra.

Last word in Spanish. :D

If the world itself is divine, then divine is all there is. — Cavacava

Sorry, but that does not explain how someone can be god.

God is the Being of beings. In loving us, he loves his creation, only we are aware of his love, which we can reciprocate and in doing so become one with God. — Cavacava

But one will never BE god.

God has no parts, — Cavacava

But if, as you said, god is everything then you would have to be part of god.

Yeah, those were the words that had other words written after them.

Could you explain just how that is possible, I see a lot of words after your posts.

Why can't separate entities be the same? — Purple Pond

Because then they could not be separate entities.

Nah, send it to the big guy up north. — Lone Wolf

Shucks, no candy then. Gonna keep on talkin.

Mwhahaha. You all must remain silent from here on. >:) — Lone Wolf

Say that with a Pakistani accent.

Stuff your mouths with cookies and candy, and you all shall be happily silent. — Lone Wolf

And I suppose that we can send the bills to you for this.

Is there not a difference between

Paul is God's tool

And

Paul's agency is God's tool

? — BlueBanana

I have no idea, why don't you explain it.

There is no God. — Mitchell

Spoil sport, can't you be nice and play the game. X-)

Other than that in your opinion the God doesn't exist, how can you know Sir2u isn't omnipotent and omniscient? — BlueBanana

I wish!

God's being (if) in us, constitutes us as part of itself. — Cavacava

So there is no me? Just part of god.

Therefore everyone is god.

The vigor of love (you have avoided that word assiduously in our brief conversation yet I think it is key) of his being, enables unification with him in us. — Cavacava

I have not avoided mentioning anything, it is irrelevant to the discussion of someone being god as described in the OP. Meta says that he is god, not a part of god.

Oh I almost forgot god is usually defined as:
Any supernatural being worshipped as controlling some part of the world or some aspect of life or who is the personification of a force.

So unless you want to change the definition then there is no way anyone who is not a god by this definition can be a god.

Yes but one isn't one's agency. — BlueBanana

?

I don't think the Bible thinks of Paul as a piece of equipment, rather I think Paul's agency is God's tool. — Cavacava

You are contradicting yourself, tool are equipment.

Paul's becomes one with God's because he recognizes/sees God's being in himself, which is possible only because of his love of God. Paul's willingness to carry out God's purpose is because it is part of his being & God's are merged. Perhaps that is what is meant by being a tool of God. — Cavacava

That still could not make some god. Being part of god, god being part of one,

Only god is god, and to be god you must fit the description, have the characteristics and properties of god. Having the characteristics on loan does not qualify you as god.

The question is: even though I'm separated from by an unimaginable distance, — Purple Pond

A different universe does not necessarily mean far from here. It might be occupying the same place.

and we belong to different universes, am I the same person? — Purple Pond

No. You are different people. Separate entities.

"This is the LAST WORD" — charleton

There must be a mistake there because these words come after the LAST WORD.

If you see a new hole in the wall, perhaps you might ask who put that hole in the wall? — Cavacava

If I did not put it there, then I would certainly ask.

Did the drill do it? — Cavacava

Well I only guided it, but the drill did the work. I would take a long time trying to do it with my finger. But the drill does not become me nor even a part of me.

If God acts through man, that is, if man is an instrument of God, as the Bible claims Paul was, then who acts? — Cavacava

That would then make him a tool still, not god.
So when I drill a hole in the wall, the drill becomes me?

God possessed — Cavacava

Being taken over by god is still not the same as being god.

Paul said "It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me" Gal 2.19 — Cavacava

Sounds kind of parasitic doesn't it?

What I said still counts, you cannot be god if god is living in you. That just makes you a vessel for him.

Perhaps it is a question of orientation allowing for a double negation, a kind of sublation, where the ego it is not done away with but retained and preserved in the higher product which supersedes it. — Cavacava

Sounds like the same quality twaddle as the OP.

Perhaps something of this reality in the Beatles:

I am he as you are he as you are me
And we are all together — Cavacava

And we will all come together to sink in a yellow submarine.

Welcome to paradise then.

I am wondering what language is used in Honduras and how you learned the language.
We speak Spanish here.
I learned the hard way, by being forced to learn so that I could work. I got dropped into a heavy duty truck workshop fixing Mack trucks and either learned or starved.

I started by learning the names of things and some of the most common verbs, then I started to string them together. Oh life was fun back then. One thing I found out is that people here do the same as people in other parts of the world, they use a lot of juicy words. It is quite common for people to say things like "pass me that shit" "push that son a a bitch". That made life a bit easier as bad words are much easier to remember.
I found a great book that really helped me a lot.
Madrigals Magic key to Spanish.

I still have a copy sat on the shelf.

Where are you living?

God created the greatest imaginable reality for me.

If he did something for you then you are not him.
You cannot therefore be god.

Where do forgotten things go? Or do the ideas simply cease to exist? Maybe forgotten ideas are are somehow reabsorbed into the fabric of information? - a bit like how dead things rot. Or maybe they never really existed in the first place? — believenothing

Now I remember.
This would seem to apply to many traditions and folkways. The cultures tend to keep them going without any memory of why they do it.

I came back to make a comment but I don't remember what I was go to say.

I bet I remember as soon as I turn off the computer.

I need the seasons back in my life. — Tiff

Here you go, hope you like them.

SO facts are statements? — Banno

A fact is a group of words that express an idea that has a positive truth value. Whether that counts as a statement would depend on the definition of statement. And yes that does seem circular.

Not all nouns name something. It would be misleading, knowing that "fact" is a noun, that there must be something that it is the name of. — Banno

Fact is the name of a category or set of data.

Like cheese is the name of a category or a set of curdled milk.

And take a hundred at least, no one can gamble with $25.

What I am trying to say, is that I NEED someone to GIVE me permission — Tiff

I am not sure I should be doing this, but as long as Nick keeps his guns in the holsters I say go for it. X-)

(Y) (Y) X-)

Don't make no difference where you live in the world, you will always be just around the corner on the internet.
Best of luck with the sale.

Well you and the Mrs. are most welcome at our Thanksgiving table. — ArguingWAristotleTiff

Going out to the road side and hitching a ride. Be there ......, errr, damn that won't work.

Thank you for the invitation, but it might have to be next year. Looks fantastic.

Not planning on doing anything really. We had a couple of friends from the US that lived near by that used to invite us over to eat but they left the area.

It is not really celebrated down here except as a way to get people to buy stuff and go to restaurants.

this AI is conscious being — Henri

If it as you say then it would act like a conscious being. But then it would realize that its environment is all that there is. What do you think a baby would do if it grow up in a room with everything it needed, would it think that there must be something OUT THERE providing for it?

At best, I think, if on its own, AI could develop a number of hypotheses, — Henri

But why would it do this if it is not part of its code? And if it is part of its code then it is not doing anything it was not meant to do .

If the spatiotemporal location of the heavenly bodies on the day of one's birth determined which of the twelve main kinds of people one is and/or will be... — creativesoul

And what about twins? Surely by this rule they would be very similar in many ways, I know several twins that are nothing like each other.

Although AI is alone, during time it develops a language and can both talk to itself and write things down. — Henri

This would not happen unless it was part of its original coding.

Can it understand that it was created by a creator? — Henri

If it has been programmed to live in its environment and nothing else how could it even dedicate processing time to it?