Post should accumulate the likes, not the poster.

I probably listened to over 100 hours of philosophy lectures while soldering. I also managed to get in some law, psychology and almost anything else that would pass the time. — shmik

I do that while riding the bus to work.

Back in the days when I did a lot of welding, we didn't have iphones, and there would probably have been too much noise anyway.

What I used to do was rig up the ghetto blaster and put the speakers on oil drums. At one place I used to work, there were lots of tourists around and they had no appreciation for rock and roll at 5am. >:)

Think how much better it would be, stronger and more solid, if the posts were properly welded instead of being cobbled together with flimsy ideas. — unenlightened

That would be suct tape and trying wire, not flimsy ideas. The ideas suck because they are not trying.

Politician goes to 10 clicks.

That is a surprise: never imagined that there was even a small connection.

Welders make more money than philosophers. We need more welders and less philosophers. — Marco Rubio, Florida Senator and presidential candidate

The problem I see here is that, just like most things in capitalistic supply and demand, when there are a lot of welders for the same amount of work they tend to get paid less.

I used to do a lot of welding, industrial, automotive, house and ship repair. A lot of the time, especially on long heavy welds, you start running on auto-pilot after a while. That gives you plenty of time to contemplate the workings of the universe.

As the world moves away from old fashioned, mostly manual labor there is more and more need for specialized training to keep the hi-tech machines running. But a lot of the work requires little thinking after initial or refresher training. Nowadays I see so many people with no problem solving skills and little inclination to even try. It is much easier to call in the next expert in the line.

Only a politician would state that thinkers are not needed by society.

And shit is ten. :P

There is no aware-conscious loop — Michael

You're right, blame it on Benkei, I just followed his lead. :-}
Just goes to show that you should never believe the things you see on the internet without checking it out first.
So school runs out to 8 clicks.

This is fun but I have work to do, work by the way seems to be a one clicker.

Shit is 13 clicks to infinity, it also hits the aware conscious loop.

School is 5 clicks to infinity. When it gets to awareness it circle to conscious.

I see a lot of people saying that where there are a lot of guns there are a lot of deaths by lead poisoning.
I work in what is supposed to be the most dangerous city in a non war zone. People are getting killed all the time. But I doubt that the cause of the deaths is guns. They used to kill them with machetes before guns became easily available.

People get killed because someone wants to kill them, if there were no guns they would just find another way to do it.

That was the point. — darthbarracuda

The point of what?

making the Sun rise in the west — darthbarracuda

Where do you live?

Hey I just realized which thread this conversation is in!!!
Nice welcome for the newcomers. >:)

But when the kids go on a rampage with a gun, they know they are going to die anyway. So it makes no difference.

Could you imagine what would happen if a school kid set off a couple in a school room full of kids? They don't even have to point it at people.

Personally I'd much rather face someone that has a knife than a gun — Wosret

Me too.

and fewer skinny teenagers could pull off mass murder. — Wosret

All they would need is a pressure cooker and BOOM!! They are easier to buy than guns as well.

Except that gun deaths are nil where nobody owns guns. — Michael

That is sort of like saying there are no road deaths where everyone walks: kind of obvious. But they still use knives, fists and other objects to get the job done. If someone is intent on doing harm they will not stop because of lack of a gun.

He's allowed in Tiff (as long as you're willing to take responsibility for any accidental discharges. :) ) — Baden

No shit! :D

That's insane. — Sapientia

So I suppose you go around insulting people that are carrying guns? 8-)

"Now" isn't a reference to time duration but reference to a lying utterance (i.e., my nose grows in response to this sentence). — Soylent

I am not sure exactly what you mean here. If you say "now" is the cause of the growth then it is obviously false because he has not said anything before this to cause it to happen. So his nose will grow for lying.


Would there be any difference if instead of using "claims" one used states or says?

Premise 1. Pinocchio's nose grows if and only if he states any falsehood
Premise 2. Pinocchio states "my nose grows now"

Premise 1. Pinocchio's nose grows if and only if he says any falsehood
Premise 2. Pinocchio says "my nose grows now"

Premise 2. Pinocchio claims "my nose grows now"

but his claim is that his nose will grow — Michael

There is a contradiction here.

Would it help if we all dedicated an hour to search and visit this site? Seems to me by the amount of English football news on my yahoo page and search results that sites that are most visited from the search engine get higher on the list faster. And no I don't like English football, that's the wife's hobby.

Unnecessary being the key word there.

Sometimes there are just no other words that suit the occasion. >:)

And it got used in plenty of other posts before mine.

Hey that dumpster on the other side of the road is getting mighty full of posts someone don't like. And I just found out that post over there usually get deleted for containing FUCK. How's about that folks.

Ah.. Sir2U... you spat in my face when I came to PF, you spit in it again as I leave. — Mongrel

I did no such thing.
I expressed my thoughts on your departure and your lack of belief in yourself.

Kind of weird for someone with so many of those bloody LIKEs to think that he is not suited to the site. Maybe someone tempted him to go somewhere else as there is such a big business in philosophy sites.

Is it actually possible that I now have a better understanding of hens? :s

But the presentation is so sad and the graphs need some clarity. Why didn't they put it into a PowerPoint Show?

Pre-moderation of all posts is an option too, but we'll never go down that route. — jamalrob

Is there any way to make posting available only after emailed confirmation login? If so the emails could probable be delayed for a while so that they have a chance to just read. I have seen other sites do this.

You cannot leave. — jamalrob

Hotel California playing softly in the background.

Should I invite Schlitz? — Mayor of Simpleton

Either the poster or the cans would be great.

btw... did you like how I suggested we should maybe form a club? — Mayor of Simpleton

I'm game, who we gonna be beatin on, the twits or the farces?

I just noticed that Arkady was online at PF so I sent him a PM.

Hey, ain't I the funking greatest. X-) Suck that up Yahadreas, I's the most awesome t'day.
The first, one and only, original, unique posted in 2 Wiser Words threads on 2 different forums at the same time. I shall have to tope six packs of Schlitz more often.

Thanks MoS.

Ps please don't no one look further up in case I'm wrong.:s

Ok, now I am really messed up. I cannot remember which threads I have been posting in. I miss the "MY THREADS" function.

While I am here, what is the Lounge all about? It just seems to display random threads.

For instance, I can't know everything about the Eiffel tower. — Mongrel

Why do you think that you cannot know everything? It seems to me that taking the time to do so would be the only thing from stopping you. Or do you think that just because you will never know everything about it then it cannot be real. Would it then be real for someone that does know everything about it?

Paul
I doubt that anyone really thinks bad about you for selling PF, at least not the ones that have been around for a while. I had guessed that something must have happened to put you in the situation where the sale was a necessity simply because I could not imagine you giving up easily the site that it was obviously so important to you.
What most of us are worried about is the fact that a place of refuge seems to be in danger of being taken from us.
I always considered PF to be a place where peace and quiet reigned over thoughtfulness and reasoning. If people disagreed with you, at least they did so in civilized way and tried to point out your errors.

Thank you for the years I had at PF and lets hope that things do not change so much.