Except that gun deaths are nil where nobody owns guns. — Michael

That is sort of like saying there are no road deaths where everyone walks: kind of obvious. But they still use knives, fists and other objects to get the job done. If someone is intent on doing harm they will not stop because of lack of a gun.

He's allowed in Tiff (as long as you're willing to take responsibility for any accidental discharges. :) ) — Baden

No shit! :D

That's insane. — Sapientia

So I suppose you go around insulting people that are carrying guns? 8-)

"Now" isn't a reference to time duration but reference to a lying utterance (i.e., my nose grows in response to this sentence). — Soylent

I am not sure exactly what you mean here. If you say "now" is the cause of the growth then it is obviously false because he has not said anything before this to cause it to happen. So his nose will grow for lying.


Would there be any difference if instead of using "claims" one used states or says?

Premise 1. Pinocchio's nose grows if and only if he states any falsehood
Premise 2. Pinocchio states "my nose grows now"

Premise 1. Pinocchio's nose grows if and only if he says any falsehood
Premise 2. Pinocchio says "my nose grows now"

Premise 2. Pinocchio claims "my nose grows now"

but his claim is that his nose will grow — Michael

There is a contradiction here.

Would it help if we all dedicated an hour to search and visit this site? Seems to me by the amount of English football news on my yahoo page and search results that sites that are most visited from the search engine get higher on the list faster. And no I don't like English football, that's the wife's hobby.

Unnecessary being the key word there.

Sometimes there are just no other words that suit the occasion. >:)

And it got used in plenty of other posts before mine.

Hey that dumpster on the other side of the road is getting mighty full of posts someone don't like. And I just found out that post over there usually get deleted for containing FUCK. How's about that folks.

Ah.. Sir2U... you spat in my face when I came to PF, you spit in it again as I leave. — Mongrel

I did no such thing.
I expressed my thoughts on your departure and your lack of belief in yourself.

Kind of weird for someone with so many of those bloody LIKEs to think that he is not suited to the site. Maybe someone tempted him to go somewhere else as there is such a big business in philosophy sites.

Is it actually possible that I now have a better understanding of hens? :s

But the presentation is so sad and the graphs need some clarity. Why didn't they put it into a PowerPoint Show?

Pre-moderation of all posts is an option too, but we'll never go down that route. — jamalrob

Is there any way to make posting available only after emailed confirmation login? If so the emails could probable be delayed for a while so that they have a chance to just read. I have seen other sites do this.

You cannot leave. — jamalrob

Hotel California playing softly in the background.

Should I invite Schlitz? — Mayor of Simpleton

Either the poster or the cans would be great.

btw... did you like how I suggested we should maybe form a club? — Mayor of Simpleton

I'm game, who we gonna be beatin on, the twits or the farces?

I just noticed that Arkady was online at PF so I sent him a PM.

Hey, ain't I the funking greatest. X-) Suck that up Yahadreas, I's the most awesome t'day.
The first, one and only, original, unique posted in 2 Wiser Words threads on 2 different forums at the same time. I shall have to tope six packs of Schlitz more often.

Thanks MoS.

Ps please don't no one look further up in case I'm wrong.:s

Ok, now I am really messed up. I cannot remember which threads I have been posting in. I miss the "MY THREADS" function.

While I am here, what is the Lounge all about? It just seems to display random threads.

For instance, I can't know everything about the Eiffel tower. — Mongrel

Why do you think that you cannot know everything? It seems to me that taking the time to do so would be the only thing from stopping you. Or do you think that just because you will never know everything about it then it cannot be real. Would it then be real for someone that does know everything about it?

Paul
I doubt that anyone really thinks bad about you for selling PF, at least not the ones that have been around for a while. I had guessed that something must have happened to put you in the situation where the sale was a necessity simply because I could not imagine you giving up easily the site that it was obviously so important to you.
What most of us are worried about is the fact that a place of refuge seems to be in danger of being taken from us.
I always considered PF to be a place where peace and quiet reigned over thoughtfulness and reasoning. If people disagreed with you, at least they did so in civilized way and tried to point out your errors.

Thank you for the years I had at PF and lets hope that things do not change so much.

Speaking of the devil and Banno shows up.
And I just commented about you on another thread. the universe is so mysterious.

Nice to see you Banno, welcome.

I would like to see hyena in a petticoat around here it would be more fun with more of the gentle gender around.
What about Mars Man. I know he has been out of the loop for a while but what if he returns and finds the door lock?

Start a special dueling thread where all can go and release their pent up fury on whatever other brave soul shows up there. Should be fun.
Same rule as Las Vegas should apply there though.

Wet t-shirt Fridays may help.
But seriously I agree with some of the other comments about getting new blood.
But not the type that tells you that you have to be wrong because some bloody fella from 300 years ago said in his book that it was not the way I believe it is. People that spout old philosophers and their 250 year old defenses as if they were gospel without adding one iota of personal thought piss me off.

I would like to see hyena in a petticoat around here, it would be more fun with more of the gentle gender around.
What about Mars Man. I know he has been out of the loop for a while but what if he returns and finds the door lock?

Bit cheesie but what can you expect from people around there.

I saw a video some years ago of a bloke explaining how to get down hills fast. He said that if you tried to run you soon lose your center of gravity. The trick he said was to take leaps like a gazelle so that you can maintain your balance by leaning back backwards. It seemed to work for him in the video because he came down the hill fast.

↪Sir2u
Okay I'll try some different colours tomorrow — jamalrob

Thanks a lot.
May you could spend a few days changing them around and start a thread where everyone could vote for their choice. Nice and democratic like.

Baden,
I tried again and can now see the deleted post, maybe a glitch the first time. But just look at the deleted threads, it does make one wonder.

I think the color scheme does need some adjustment as well. I always used the dark theme over at PF because of my eyes. The gray at the right would work better under the text and a darker sidebar would help eliminate the excess brightness.

Can anyone still get into the dumpster and see the posts?

I doubt that these new guys love philosophy anywhere near as much as Paul or that they will dedicate to much effort to maintaining its standards. As this Nik said, we are here for the money. It looks to me as though keeping Paul as an administrator is the reaction to all of us signing up on this and the other site.

Maybe they think that he can keep everyone around while they sack the place and and get enough twatter fiends and farcebook fools going there to make money off. Imagine a continuous high turnover of new people that are being directed there from those "social" sites. All of them looking for a place to show off their intellectual capabilities or pick arguments about things they have no knowledge of.

I really don't want to leave PF, it is about the only place I spend any time to myself. But I will not stay there if things do get shitty.

jamalrob thanks. I had noticed the reply button but never thought to look for the edit there as well. :-#

But the really big question that needs to be answered is..................
where do you find the edit button to correct mistakes in your posts?

Did anyone else notice what happens when you select a section of text?
A "quote" button appears. Nice.

If we all agree that the likes are only to be used for something like "I learned something for this post" then I see no reason not to use them. And if you don't like them just ignore them.

People that portray themselves as Japanese Anime chicks or even guys(can anyone tell the difference?) are having identity doubts. The rest of us just doubt everything.

The real reason people go to philosophy forums is to try to learn the secrets of the universe. That is why so few people actually arrive and less hang around, the slobs prefer to look for them on farcebook and twatter.

Ok, I'm getting confused. Now I have another password to remember because the signup would not accept the one I wanted.

But anyway hello everyone that got here before me.