Better the devil you know! — baker

Well, that's the issue - the West doesn't know enough about them.

I resent China. I just resent the West more. — baker

Maybe you should try living in both? Compare and contrast?
:chin:

@baker and it's not just the US blaming the CCP:



The whole world should be rioting against the growing insidious influence of the CCP.

Murican culture is shapeless, shape-shifting. China at least has definition. — baker

Sounds like you'd enjoy a social credit score, and learning to love Big Brother.

amoebic to blame — baker

:chin: never heard that phrase before...

These days, China is the usual suspect for everything bad, so let's blame China — baker

It's hard not to blame an ultra-covert, Orwellian government in the CCP.

You and I both know what went on there and what would have happened if the shooter would have been black. If you deny that, then you're either in denial or you're a liar. — James Riley

Agreed.

Hopefully this new Omicron variant causes less severe disease and becomes the dominant strain. @jorndoe?

or every single thing he did that night was heroic — Miller

@frank's Tune? :scream:

@Noble Dust concur?

@praxis agree?

well, that's quite the grim problem you've painted. Is there a solution or only a problem?

Is a solution to live simply, to not get involved, and to abstain from voting?

Is it because Starmer is more centrist? Would you prefer Corbyn?

you sound disillusioned... what if the UK gets proportional representation?

a political equivalent of a tax loss — unenlightened

I don't know what you mean by this; mainly because I don't know what a tax loss is.

Death is what our society teaches us it is.

@unenlightened agree?

I don't think there is a better... — The Opposite

Sorry I mean there is no better as in there is no best theory of death. @TheMadFool

What's better then? — TheMadFool

I don't think there is a better...

a dreamless sleep — TheMadFool

... and I'm doubtful this is even a thing.

our best guess — TheMadFool

Why is it our best? It's quite basic to compare a sleeping person with a dead person merely because both are stationary.

By the way, do you have any evidence that death isn't a dreamless sleep? — TheMadFool

No. But you and no other have evidence that death isn't 'a pre-birth state', 'a synthetic mind-substrate extension', heaven/hell, purgatory, a lingering spirit, reincarnation, nirvana or any number of unimaginable afterlives.

1. Brain + Delta waves (Dreamless sleep) = Death (not brain dead) — TheMadFool

This is the part I disagree with. Why equate dreamless sleep with death? There's zero evidence connecting them.

Also, I'm not sure what you mean by 'dreamless sleep'. I dream every night. I'm also unsure how it's scientifically possible for to prove someone is not dreaming when exhibiting delta waves.

Death can be thought to be like a dreamless sleep. — Xtrix

It can. It can also be thought to be heaven/hell or 'a state of pre-birth'.

None of these things are true.

Delta waves — TheMadFool

The brain exhibits delta waves when a person is alive.

Science has proved that death is not sleep.

sleep — Xtrix

How can death be sleep when sleep is part of being alive?

@Punshhh thoughts?

Does anyone else find it a bit hypocritical of David Attenborough to be lecturing people about their carbon footprint, when his carbon footprint has been astronomical during his lifetime of swanning around the old British empire and beyond?



Can't say the same for Greta, that's for sure.

it’s probably not permanent — Xtrix

What isn't? I'm not sure what you're anaphorically referencing there old chap

@frank it's a potential solution for sure, but would cost us in other ways

been reading Brave New World eh?

How can this tightly-linked, interdependent, globalised economy we've created be scaled back enough to reduce our collectivised carbon footprint?

science has the anaphoric, metaphoric and exophoric referencing pronoun 'it'. Also 'it' obviously does realise things - evidenced by your communicating with me right now.

science realizes fantasy

@Noble Dust agree?

@Noble Dust agree?

the realm of supernatural fiction — boagie

... can be realized by science.

and angles. — boagie

How dare you?

why (in the West at least) are we scared of ghosts and zombies etc. I.e. we are scared of both life turning into death and inversely death turning into life.

Maybe it's because we're scared of death that makes us scared of the dead coming back to life...

But it's far from unique to the US. The British, The Spanish, The French, everybody, did the same thing. — Manuel

The CCP have been attempting to do it too, as of late.