Nobody answered my question. This is like saying "not all men are sexist." yes, we get it, there are many female philosophers, but "many" in relation to what? There's literally 4 or so popular female philosophers in history while theres I-LOST-COUNT many male. — EcceHomo
but "many" in relation to what? There's literally 4 or so popular female philosophers in history while theres I-LOST-COUNT many male. — EcceHomo
Anaxagoras suggested, I would have been better off not talking about the alt-right to begin with. — Judaka
There is no emphasis on people as individuals and the so-called 'colorblindness' is deeply rejected as hypocrisy — ssu
Your opening post doesn't necessarily describe "really disturbed individuals — SophistiCat
it applies to a much wider range of people who are not skilled at writing and expressing their thoughts, or just don't put much effort into their posts. — SophistiCat
To put it crudely, a forum with "philosophy" in its title tends to attract the loons in more than average numbers. — SophistiCat
What is the prognosis for having an interest in, or just being, unfocused? — Galuchat
Are such people already "really disturbed", or inevitably "really disturbed"? — Galuchat
At what point do interests become personality traits? — Galuchat
I'm a woman and I'm confused. I know that there's a biological argument but is that really justifiable? — EcceHomo
For a long time, political correctness had any number of people believe that the Western civilization was the root of all wrongs done against women. Then the Muslims invaded, and that claim could no longer be credibly made, as some Muslims are worse by standards of feminism than any place in the West. — Ilya B Shambat
So now these people are having to decide whether to look like complete idiots and traitors and side with extremist Muslims, or to admit their error and side with their own countries in which they have enough rights to make their ridiculous claims. — Ilya B Shambat
The politically correct created a false Satan. They decided that there was a single root of evil. Of course they were wrong. — Ilya B Shambat
We see this with just about everything that is out there. Government. Corporate system.
Men. Women. Jews. Reason. Faith. Feelings. Ego. Soul. Science. Capitalism. — Ilya B Shambat
Some muslims are more misogynistic than even the Western conservatives. A much uglier Satan is staring them straight in the face. They can no longer fool people as easily. — Ilya B Shambat
Donald Trump speaks not very well but the people nevertheless listen. (MEMO TO THE PEOPLE: Pay no attention to the fat man with bad hair standing behind the podium. He is an artless clod.) — Bitter Crank
You're the one who doesn't appreciate that what I've just described is an interpretation and not something that can be called a fact. — Judaka
but you still interpret me as saying racial discrimination is unchangeable and we should just accept it? — Judaka
The problem is that he's perpetuating it Sushi, his only defence for his perspective is the historical inequities and injustices that took place and their role in the modern context but that's just not good enough. — Judaka
I am not against discrimination, prejudice, categorising people and so on, I accept these things as unchangable. — Judaka
Basically your view is extremely US-centric, which assumes that the US narrative is the only one that exists and everything follows it. — ssu
Focus on other issues, like from the fact that not everything in the continent of Africa is explained with Western colonization (and the Trans-Atlantic slave trade), is simply unimportant. — ssu
I was stating that it is unfair to associate someone with the “alt-right” just because they worry about their cultural identity being consumed (falsely or not doesn’t matter fro the point to stand; in reality I don’t think it’s as big an issue as some wish to make out). — I like sushi
Your historical facts did absolutely no such thing, you are telling me that the West is responsible for racial tensions in Africa — Judaka
Do you consider yourself a westerner? — Judaka
There's really not much point in discussing the alt-right when you see them as the white version of BLM. — Judaka
think you're the only poster I have had problems with due solely to me bringing up the alt-right, perhaps NKBJ but I knew about him before this thread and I expected trouble with him regardless. — Judaka
How does your racialised solution perform better than simply identifying the problems of individuals with black-skin as problems of Americans and trying to solve them as efficiently and effectively as possible? — Judaka
What you're saying is really in my estimation, is not all that different from the alt-right's ethnocentric, racialised perspective. — Judaka
There's a moral high ground for you because you see minorities as victims, you see people as extenuations of victims of their ethnic histories but it's superficial. — Judaka
At the end of the day, race means too much for you, condemning that would be a step towards ending racism. — Judaka
is whether or not there is a tone of hypocracy in calling “white” people racist because they are proud of their country and wish preserve and honour what they view as “quintessentially X”. — I like sushi
do people in countries with more stability and freedom than elsewhere have good reason to be worried about losing their stability and freedom? — I like sushi
The problem with that is that fixing the problems "for all citizens of the country" will never happen until people acknowledge the way things are. — T Clark
It's really hard to get reliable information about what the alt-right is and what they're not. — Judaka
I'm trying to draw parallels between the alt-right and other groups which are not criticised for the same type of behaviour and attitudes — Judaka
I should have chosen an entirely different way to go about it — Judaka
US culture appears to be a rather different thing to anything I’ve found in Europeans, Australians or Canadians. — I like sushi
I mostly made the thread because I watched a video from a more reasonable youtuber who calls himself an alt-right speaker named millennial woes and got a lot of my information about the alt-right from him — Judaka
I think Anaxagoras is viewing this whole “alt-right” thing as purely from a US perspective? I could be wrong. — I like sushi
If you have reduced your claim to an observation that racism occurs in all countries, and from people of all skin tones, then that is uncontroversial. I doubt many, if any, would care to argue. It is the claim in the OP that racism is only criticised when it is done by white people that is unsupportable. — andrewk
Okay, why did you bring up that racial intolerance in South America and Africa are the fault of European colonialism? — Judaka
You're telling me that you had no intentions of blaming any group for this? — Judaka
The historical facts do not speak for themselves, you've interpreted their meaning and you've interpreted that individuals should be held accountable for the actions of people of a similar race or ancestry. — Judaka
As for your views about the alt-right, you aren't really making an effort, I don't want to talk about them with you. — Judaka
I was thinking more along the lines of what happened in Brasil. Most people remain oblivious to the utterly vile chapter of human history and focus being taken away by slavery in the US - I assume you know about the wholesale slaughter I’m talking about and why the “Tiger Coast” is called the tiger coast. — I like sushi
was referring to the “sigh” and my assumed ignorance — I like sushi
You disagree Anglo-Saxon whites are sensitive to interpretations based on ethnicity or that other ethnicities/races aren't sensitive to it? — Judaka
As for your other comments, a lot of people are criticising you for being historically inaccurate — Judaka
I have a problem with you claiming that whites are responsible for things that happened before their lifetime purely because they're white. — Judaka
This idea of ethnic history is a huge problem in so far as negating the interpretative relevance of race, not to mention it doesn't make much sense to blame individuals for the actions of groups they belong to. — Judaka
So either you're blaming people who have been dead for a long time or you're blaming people for crimes on the basis of their ethnic heritage. — Judaka
What I am saying is that there are a lot of similarities between the east Asian countries trying to maintain ethnic hegemony and what the alt-right want, similarities between the alt-right wanting whites to be prioritised in "white" countries over non-whites in the same way that governments across the world prioritise their majority races. — Judaka
. Hence the idea that Europeans invaded Africa and fought there just indigenous tribes is either an ignorant or a condescending view or both. — ssu
To think of Africa consisting of 'indigenous tribes' when Europeans came is again a typical condescending view. — ssu
What kind of tribe as you call it was "Ethiopia" or the "Ottoman Empire"? — ssu
This is not the full picture. In most societies, where manual labour was deemed below the given aristocracy in power, people were judged by their skin tone as an indication of being a “mere” labourer rather than of some apparent “nobler blood,” or some such nonsense. It’s not merely about colonnialism. — I like sushi
Most, if not all, people are unaware of the privileges they possess. — I like sushi
Human actively has played out pretty much in the same on a global scale — I like sushi