Apologies to all of you. I went on a very long break. — Baden
Read Byung Chul-Han's 'Psychopolitics,' it is almost like he wrote a commentary of Baden's work - only more legible.
— I like sushi
Thank you. Found and downloaded a free pdf (74 pages). Will read later... — Amity
I'm pretty sure the salient points can be translated to more accessible - if less philosophically precise - language. I would like to see that version widely disseminated....
.... so the important message could be ignored by a wider range of readers.
[sigh] I've been here before, in several formats.[!sigh] — Vera Mont
It's always worth a try. :strong: — Baden
From page 1 of this Thread: — RussellA
Philosophical Reflections
Philosophical musings are a cornerstone in haibun. The prose seeks to convey an epiphany or an acute awareness of the human condition. Philosophical reflections encourage readers to contemplate existence, often culminating in a haiku that serves as a crystallized form of the writer’s insight.
This synthesis captures fleeting moments of realization, providing depth and resonance to the overall narrative.
Notable Haibun Examples
Haibun, a Japanese literary form, masterfully blends prose with haiku. Matsuo Bashō, a pioneer of the form, has left an indelible mark with his travel diaries, where each diary entry is followed by a haiku. One of the most celebrated examples is The Narrow Road to the Interior where Bashō merges evocative prose with the succinctness of haiku to capture the essence of his journey through the Edo period Japan. Another exemplary haibun is The Records of a Travel-worn Satchel, where Basho’s reflective prose sets the scene for the haiku, offering deep insights into the human experience and the natural world. — Art in Context: Haibun - Journeying through Prose and Poetry
The following thread is very awesome, but it is only available in Spanish (sorry): :pray: — javi2541997
I think one of the usual mistakes I made writing haikus is precisely trying to be creative. The key of the haiku is letting ourselves be embraced by nature — javi2541997
I could have done a better job here. And truthfully my hope is someone else takes the spot of coordinator for next year -- I'd like to participate next time! — Moliere
It is interesting that both these sources restrict their philosophical entry to philosophical essays, where philosophical essays have specific requirements. — RussellA
Haiku in the United Kingdom: England
Lafcadio Hearn and Basil Hall Chamberlain are thought to be the first to have introduced readers in the British Isles to Japanese haiku in the early years of the 20th century. In 1990 the British Haiku Society (BHS) was set up, and its quarterly membership journal, Blithe Spirit, was launched. Since the beginning an increasingly active community of poets in print as well as online have taken part in the international haiku scene.
Haiku in the United Kingdom: Wales
Possessing one of the oldest living literatures in Europe, Welsh poetry’s first brushes with haiku occurred in the 1960s through the small press scene. Though developments were relatively slow in the following decades, the turn of the century saw a much wider and more meaningful engagement in the form in Wales, owing particularly to the nurturing of haiku appreciation in the country’s educational institutions. The creation of a national haiku journal, along with an ever-growing international awareness of haiku by Welsh poets, are serving to ensure that engagement in the form continues to thrive in Wales.
What Are Haiku?
Haiku poems originate in Japan and are typically three lines long, with five syllables in the first line, seven syllables in the second line and five syllables in the third line.
All British Haiku on this website and in the related book (The Book) follow that format strictly. Quite often, however, they do not follow the Japanese tradition of including a reference to seasonal weather.
As will be seen from the Haiku on the website and in The Book, much of British life takes place out of the prevailing weather, in homes, offices, schools, sports halls, places of worship, and elsewhere. — British haiku
Plato
Shadows are all things
to those chained in the dark cave.
Sunlight waits outside. — NedWalters
Haiku is not a Zen souvenir. It is Japanese art and literature. To compose a haiku, you need to work out on Japanese aesthetics previously. — javi2541997
Great active learning exercise if you teach students. Baronett's Zen and Western Philosophy has 100+ similar haikus. Get your students to write their own! — NedWalters
A Note from the Author...
Zen and Western Philosophy takes a novel approach to philosophy. The goal was to try capturing the body of thought called “Western philosophy” with an Eastern net—Zen as embodied in haiku. The book offers profiles of 139 Western philosophers by using a traditional three-line haiku format of 5-7-5 syllables in order to capture each philosopher’s ideas in a manner that is both concise and playful.
When I started writing it, I accepted that it is nearly impossible to capture any interesting philosopher's ideas in a mere 17 syllables; nevertheless, I accepted the challenge. The result is simply an exercise by someone schooled in Western philosophy to see things from a different perspective.
Simply put, the book’s purpose, design, and structure is
A parallax view
of Western philosophy
through an Eastern lens.
Stan Baronett
April 20, 2023 — Zen and Western Philosophy
Amity unenlightened @Vera Mont
On the difficulty of the text: I didn't deliberately try to complexify it, but I tried to prioritize theoretical preciseness which involved employing a lot of technical vocabulary that, understandably, the vast majority of readers were unlikely to be familiar with — Baden
The problem is that several of the readers seem to have expected something dumbed down or put in language they’re already familiar with. As far as I’m aware this was not in the rules of the event, was it? — Jamal
This essay amounts to a critique of a consumerist culture that is driven by technology and rooted in capitalism.
— Moliere
You've got my vote right there! The rest of that first paragraphs elicits interest, curiosity and brings a host of long-held beliefs and long withheld doubts to the fore. I find myself lining up possible responses even before I've read the arguments.
The essay is challenging and rather long, so I shall have to read it in sections, reflect and comment before continuing. — Vera Mont
It’s a shame that people who apparently want to be part of a philosophy discussion forum are not willing to grapple with philosophy, or perhaps do not even realize that philosophy is difficult and sometimes technical. — Jamal
It’s perhaps telling that whenever I criticize people for anti-intellectualism or laziness they pretend I’ve implied they’re not intellectual enough. That is obviously not the case. It is fine to be flummoxed; what is not fine is to immediately complain about it to the author. Be flummoxed, and if you’re genuinely interested, de-flummox yourself, perhaps with the help of some polite questions. — Jamal
Read Byung Chul-Han's 'Psychopolitics,' it is almost like he wrote a commentary of Baden's work - only more legible. — I like sushi
It deserves readers who are willing to do their own work to understand it. — Jamal
So the complaints are just anti-intellectualism, or laziness, or both. — Jamal
I hope to come back and say something more interesting. — Jamal
if you go back and look at my thread 'On Certainty', you'll see that I mentioned this about a year ago. — Sam26
I don't always respond to every challenge or question because I just don't have the time. Right now, I'm working on a book on NDEs, so that occupies my time. — Sam26
I don't think AI could have made such a connection. I made this connection more than a year ago, possibly longer, and the AI available at the time surely couldn't have made the connection between Wittgenstein and Godel. — Sam26
Still, I say that in an attempt to be helpful, and your essay far surpasses my little comments on it. Thanks for your submission! — Moliere
To what end? This is a sincere question: What is it you hope to learn or achieve?
— Vera Mont
The paper explores why we can know things at all by connecting two big ideas: Wittgenstein’s notion that our knowledge rests on unquestioned "hinges" (like assuming the ground will hold when we walk) and Gödel’s discovery that even math has true statements it can’t prove within its own rules. — Sam26
Rather than viewing these limits as philosophical problems requiring solutions, this analysis suggests embracing them as structural necessities that make knowledge possible. — Moliere
I have to move on to answering some of the other replies to my paper, but your responses were interesting. — Sam26
I decided to put my paper in this thread where it belongs. The paper tends to be a bit more precise than my general comments in this thread and elsewhere, which is why it's important to write down one's thoughts using more precise language. The area where my paper falls short is in not responding to potential criticisms. — Sam26
As far as I can tell, no one else has made this connection, but who knows? The paper demonstrates this isn’t just about “complicated” systems needing ungrounded elements, but about the logical structure of any system that strives for internal coherence. Even simple systems, if they’re to be complete and self-justifying, will encounter such limits. — Sam26
But they all have a lot of richness and capability to continue spurring on discussion. Unlike an OP, though, I've had to put more effort into even a first response in order to respect the time and care that all of the authors put into their works. — Moliere
There's two essays I've yet to respond to, and so will do that by the end of day today. — Moliere
I'm really impressed with everyone's work -- I felt a lot of different thoughts going in various ways I wouldn't have without having read them all. — Moliere
Overall, it's been engaging, challenging, worthwhile and even fun. — Vera
Come back when you feel up to it, to participate in what feels right.
Meanwhile, heal! — Vera
:cool:I had a very long time to draft the responses, because I started with them when the comments arose. Gave me time to shave away all the acerbic comments I had and play nice for a change — Benkei
:smile:Once I get started I don't shut up, which is why I try to not start. Ever. — Benkei
That's the only essay I didn't comment on, since it's completely beyond me.
I could only address half of Wittgenstein, for that matter, due to innumeracy.
I write simple stories and contentious forum posts, not philosophical essays. I only entered this event on a dare. — Vera Mont
I guess everyone knows I don't 'do philosophy'. — Vera Mont
[TPF Essay] Wittgenstein's Hinges and Gödel's Unprovable Statements - @Sam26
[TPF Essay] Bubbles and Styx In: Pondering the Past - @hypericin
[TPF Essay] Dante and the Deflation of Reason - @Count Timothy von Icarus
[TPF Essay] What Does It Mean to Be Human? - @Vera Mont
[TPF Essay] Cognitive Experiences are a Part of Material Reality - @ucarr
[TPF Essay] The Frame Before the Question - @James Dean Conroy
[TPF Essay] Part 1 & Part 2 - @PoeticUniverse
[TPF Essay] Technoethics: Freedom, Precarity, and Enzymatic Knowledge Machines - @Baden
[TPF Essay] The Authoritarian Liberty Paradox - @Benkei
[TPF Essay] An Exploration Between the Balance Between State and Individual Interests - @I like sushi
[TPF Essay] My Soul is like the Dead Sea - @Bob Ross
[TPF Essay] The Insides and Outsides of 'Reality': Exploring Possibilities - @Jack Cummins
[TPF Essay] The importance of the Philosophical Essay within philosophy - @RussellA — Moliere
↪Bob Ross
Well, I've only got 2 left and you are one of them!!! :chin:
I'm veering towards My Soul... — Amity
The reason why I put Vera for Dante is because I see her as rather literature based. — Jack Cummins
I also spent time trying to work out which one was yours. I nearly didn't enter because I have been in hospital twice but did so to try to take my mind off the physical health problems. I think that I may have got discharged a bit too soon because staff thought that I was more well than I was as I spent so much time reading philosophy while on oxygen. — Jack Cummins
On the difficulty of the text: I didn't deliberately try to complexify it, but I tried to prioritize theoretical preciseness which involved employing a lot of technical vocabulary that, understandably, the vast majority of readers were unlikely to be familiar with. — Baden
I think I can do a better job of explaining the thrust of this in the comments here than Amity's website, so I may come back and try that later. — Baden
Anyhow, thanks for all the comments. I much appreciate having the opportunity to share these ideas in this format. The event really motivated me to put the work in. — Baden