We can not consider a kind of cause and affect chain, and we can not explain Tramp's phenomenon by "extinction of working class and peasantry".What is his true motivation? — Number2018

Reich's importance still actual: — Number2018

Tariq Ali
11 awr
From: Amanda Sebestyen <amsebatblueyonderdotcodotuk>
Subject: staggering
Date: 31 July 2018 23:30:25 BST
To: newsnightatbbcdotcodotuk
I was staggered tonight to see Louise Ellman MP telling Newsnight how shocked she was by hearing that Jeremy Corbyn had hosted a meeting on Holocaust Memorial Day in 2010 where a speaker compared Israeli and Nazi policies — staggered because she was actually present throughout that meeting!
I was there too, in that House of Commons committee room in 2010.
Nowhere tonight did Emily Maitlis or the Times reporter mention that the speaker, Hajo Meier, was a Holocaust survivor. The other speakers were survivors of Atlantic slavery, Native Americans, Bangladeshis, Roma and others who shared their experiences with the many Jewish survivors of genocide in the audience. (It was my own family’s experiences that drew me to the meeting).
As it happened Jeremy Corbyn had to leave the meeting after introducing it, to attend a debate in the House. Louise Ellman, by contrast, was present throughout the meeting.
She sat calmly by when the room was invaded by five members of the small but fanatical Zionist Federation, who proceeded to shout until no one else could be heard. I particularly recall their shouts of ‘Boring!’ whenever any other survivors were speaking. As an MP Ms Ellman could have called the Hous eof Commons security to evict the disruptors but she did nothing.
Ms Ellman’s attendance is a verifiable fact, and I have written before to Emily Maitlis calling attention to the biased way that this issue is being covered.
The IHRA definition is not ‘internationally recognised’: it was dropped by the EU and has been bitterly criticised by the very lawyer who drafted it.
The ‘examples’ outlaw terms which are commonly used by Israeli critics of their own government, such as comparisions with apartheid. One of the leading anti-apartheid campaigners, who is also Jewish, has said that the Israeli occupation-system is in some ways worse than apartheid. David Steel has also made the comparison with apartheid. Are all these people antisemites?
It is essential that a future Labour government should have an ethical foreign policy.
The shouts of ‘antisemitism’ from self-appointed community leaders are deeply upsetting to many of us of Jewish descent who do not identify with them or Israel. Tonight you claimed to interview ‘the whole spectrum of the left’. Where were our voices?

Does it make sense to say: "X is really just Y" ? — rachMiel

How do I get to the point where I can produce consistency between what I want to do, and what I ought to do, such that what I am is the same as what I ought to be, because I would be doing what I ought to be doing? — Metaphysician Undercover

Let’s put the question that is asked towards the end of the talk:

Can one be wrong about ones gender identity? — Banno

It can be argued that things don't actually exist, but are instead an illusion created by thought, — Jake

Would you say that "what I am" is itself a deception, that there is only what I think I am, and what others think I am? There really is no self, only an image. If not, then what supports the assumption that there is such a thing as what I am? Is it necessary to assume a "what I am", in order to produce a divided self, to expose the possibility of self-deception, which is really an attribute of the one undivided "what I think I am? — Metaphysician Undercover

it is exciting to change the image in the face of new information, rather than a death-threat. — Moliere

Learning through experience is one thing – it is the accumulation of conditioning – and learning all the time, not only about objective things but also about oneself, is something quite different. There is the accumulation which brings about conditioning – this we know – and there is the learning which we speak about. This learning is observation – to observe without accumulation, to observe in freedom. This observation is not directed from the past. Let us keep those two things clear. — J.Krishnamurti

we can have an image we want to conform to, realize we are not like the image, and then tell ourselves "But really, deep down inside, I am like that image" and then have our awareness flip such that we are no longer aware that we intentionally deceived ourselves. — Moliere

I'm confident that neither 'self-deception' nor 'lying to oneself' is the best way to describe these situations though. I mentioned one earlier... the homosexual. We all adopt our initial worldview, and that includes much, if not most, of our own original 'self' image.

Here we see the inherent problem with the notion of self. I'm certain we all agree here. The self is largely delineated by others. — creativesoul

All individuals possess an innate essential gender that is independent of both their biological sex and the gender they were raised as, and this innate essential gender is the sole definition of gender that should be recognized for social, political, and legal purposes.

Seems at odds with anything I'm saying, but I'm listening. — Moliere

I can't make much sense of this, which is unsurprising given the inherent self-contradiction. — creativesoul

Perhaps. It would require having considered whether or not the bridge would support him at some time or other though, wouldn't it? A lizard crosses the bridge, but that crossing is not strong evidence that it believes that the bridge will support it. — creativesoul

It appears that children are seeing it that way. — raza

It is humanly impossible to knowingly believe a falsehood. — creativesoul

The point is that Trump had zero control of that phenomena while Obama, comparively speaking (relative to Trump), had massive, governmental authoritative resources, therefore the other end of the spectrum with regard to control. — raza

I mean surely self-deception is something in and of itself, right? In that case there should be something or some things that make it qualify. Ahem... a criterion.

Anyone here have one? — creativesoul

One mind is not a plurality of minds. — creativesoul

One is not a plurality. — creativesoul

King Solomon of Israel ruled between two women both claiming to be the mother of a child. Solomon revealed their true feelings and relationship to the child by suggesting to cut the baby in two, with each woman to receive half. With this strategy, he was able to discern the non-mother as the woman who entirely approved of this proposal, while the actual mother begged that the sword might be sheathed and the child committed to the care of her rival. Some consider this approach to justice an archetypal example of an impartial judge displaying wisdom in making a ruling.

If there are two... who/ what is the other? — Evil

He gazed up at the enormous face. Forty years it had taken him to learn what kind of smile was hidden beneath the dark moustache. O cruel, needless misunderstanding! O stubborn, self-willed exile from the loving breast! Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother. — George Orwell

How does one stop acting from the image? — Evil

Hmm, but there is evidence that affirmations can help produce a better self-image, and greater self-confidence, so long as they end up replacing negative thought patterns, as opposed to merely supervening on top of them. — Agustino

What is it about Jesus and the Buddha that makes them have undivided minds? — Moliere

We need to get our own house in order before we start lecturing others on how to conduct their affairs. — Erik

Is it enough to say that having two mutually exclusive beliefs at once is enough to count as a divided mind? — Moliere

That we can "observe ourselves exteriorly" isn't a lie, but it is a self-deception. — Bitter Crank

We can't be our own exterior observers. — Bitter Crank