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  • The causa sui and the big bang
    The Ultimate is beyond subject and object, here and there, something and nothing (taken conventionally).petrichor

    Something has to be because 'Nothing' cannot; however, they both have an information content of zero, if that's kind of what you mean. Or that a perfect blend of symmetry is not anything in particular, like the colors hidden within white, and approximates a new kind of 'Nothing' as a minimal something. The 'white' would be like the permanent something and the colors would be as but temporaries and thus akin to 'nothing'.
  • The causa sui and the big bang
    Whatever is ultimately real is eternal, is permanent, always-already-the-case. It cannot be created or destroyed. It isn't self-caused.petrichor

    Great post! Plus it agrees with my first post today, a ways back. It also agrees mostly with Gevin Giorbran's 'Everything Forever', in which the 'Everything' is total blend symmetry of balance, pulling time forward from the only way time could begin as asymmetrical, such as a severe grouping order imbalance of matter and anti-matter which then pushes time forward.

    The 'Everything' can be a multiverse as taken from the wave function being actual as well as being such because the ultimately real is permanent, with no start, and thus can't have any particular solution put to it and so thus must contain the 'everything' of all solutions.

    For those not liking eternalism, the One of presentism can be seen to be continually transmuting into topological temporaries that can never last as anything particular, the One ever remaining as itself overall as the 'wax'.
  • The causa sui and the big bang
    Bypass both and look directly with consciousness. and know yourself omnisciently.OmniscientNihilist

    In conscious life all is known: I am the holistic unity of the One as well as the linear multiplicity of the details.
  • The causa sui and the big bang
    The mind can never have omniscience, it comes from directly from consciousness to consciousness.OmniscientNihilist

    We are that which is All, as you said.
  • The causa sui and the big bang
    explaining the 'it'OmniscientNihilist

    It's merely the outline of the TOE, if anyone is interested in that. Ah, what an orgasm!

    look within and there it is. here it is. it is you. i am it.OmniscientNihilist

    Yes, indeed.
  • The causa sui and the big bang
    And anything that currently actually exists must necessarily be eternal, and omnipresent.OmniscientNihilist

    As for me, as 'I', I am necessarily an expression of the overall 'it' and, as such, have what 'it' has.

    I am more interested herein in explaining the one and only 'it' as All there is and have supplied the philosophical reasons for the how and the why of it, we then hardly needing to worry about the what of what has to be.
  • The causa sui and the big bang
    something eternal and omnipresent, which is here now, that I AM.OmniscientNihilist

    The timeless 'is' is necessarily all possible events in all possible universes because there cannot be any direction imparted to what has no start. So, it is at least an 'it', but not necessarily an 'I' of mind.

    'It' is not optional, but mandatory, of necessity, for the non-alternative of it, as 'Nothing', cannot have beingness, so that takes care of why it has to be.
  • An Estimate for no ‘God’
    Do you have a link to "The Final Answer"? Was it written by Nobody or by you?Gnomon

    It's all there already, as combined in Nobody's part and Gevin's part. I wrote and arranged both parts into the poem based on what they said in prose. Nobody Nowhere was on the forum, ToeQuest, long ago.

    So, per Giorbran, for Cosmic and biological evolution, it looks like we need more than just 'random' but less than God, since the superpositions must either trace back to total order (imbalance) or trace forward to disorder (balance), and so time can only begin from order, as with matter separated from antimatter—time thus pushed forward by this past arrangement and further pulled forward by future disorder.
  • An Estimate for no ‘God’
    I was just reminded, by your physical/metaphysical poetry, of the book by Gevin Giorbran : Everything Forever, Learning to See TimelessnessGnomon

    You are a genius, for a digest of 'Everything Forever' is next in the poem, completing it, as 'The Final Answer', although it's rather long; Nobody's portion is done, but he referenced Giorbran in a forum post and so must have liked Gevin's idea. Nobody is probably not dead but cannot currently be found anywhere online.

    Time Forward
    The Alpha of the Beginning can’t be
    From the impossible nonexistence;
    Only time begins, and so the universe
    Must be such that time moves frames forward.

    Grouping Order to Symmetry Order
    Wherefore why the ‘improbable’ Alpha,
    It being the most complete grouping order—
    Separated matter / inverse matter?
    Only then is the pull toward symmetry.

    To the ‘Improbable’
    All the possibilities of the imbalances
    Must trace back to the one and only state
    Of the most probable beginning of all,
    The separation of matter and anti-matter.

    Between River Shores and Lakes Alpha/Omega
    The ultimate, flat, symmetry order
    Of the Omega—the end of all, draws
    The river of time along, guiding it,
    Through the probability patterns.

    The Wave Function of the Universe
    Totality is in a superposition,
    All at once—of no time and of no space,
    The quantum probability patterns
    Really being so, not just a math tool.

    From Grouping Order to Blended Symmetry Order
    The Time River of Probabilities
    Flows smoother and further near its center,
    While near the shores there are eddies and swirls,
    Contrasts, lumpiness, ebbs—even back flow.

    Timeless ‘Time’
    The pages turn and the living film plays,
    Motion but apparent, as successive frames—
    All the alternate plot’s scenarios being,
    Which will blend into ‘everything forever’.

    We Reflecting the Universe Start-End
    The two brain hemispheres, too, must reflect
    The nature of the universe itself,
    As the grouping order versus and with
    The whole of the symmetry order.

    The Hare Beats the Turtle
    The universe expands, forming a light cone;
    The arc of the ‘ice-cream’ end getting flatter,
    Seeming to take forever to straighten—
    Accelerating expansion bridges the gap.

    It Has Always Been
    Nonexistence can’t be, nor even meant;
    So it is that existence must be here;
    There’s no other option, by necessity,
    And thus herein these pages we learn its ways.

    Divergence and Convergence
    Top-down drives the bottom-up ‘events’,
    The future ever affecting the present;
    The flat whiteness of the Omega End
    Brings forth diversified prismatic colors.

    Enfoldment/Unfoldment
    Electrons, protons, seem ‘bottom-up’
    But are ‘enfolded’ in the top-down whole,
    As with Bohm’s implicit order guiding
    The blooming, unfolding, explicit order.

    The Second of the Final Laws
    Boltzman’s increasing disorder (entropy),
    Due to there being many more states of
    Disorder than order, is close to the mark,
    But it’s more-so of the ungrouped patterns.

    As Well, There Are Many More Ways For…
    The universe to be lumpy, in degrees,
    Than for it to be perfectly smooth,
    And that’s why there’s still a grouping order,
    As with galaxies and solar systems.

    The Opposite ‘Improbable’
    The not so ‘improbable’ symmetry
    Of uniformity comes at future’s end;
    This Omega symmetry order is
    The opposite of Alpha’s grouping order.

    Bohm’s Poem of Home
    Classical physics says that reality
    Is of particles that separate
    The world into independent elements;
    But now I am proposing the reverse…

    Close Condensations Approximate a Track
    The fundamental reality is en-un-foldment;
    Particles are abstractions from that.
    Electrons don’t exist continuously
    But are coming, going, then coming again.

    Real Quantum Mechanics
    Possibilities are actualities, so
    Possibilities exist, in a timeless way,
    So then we have a simple solution
    To why our universe came from a dense state.

    All at Once
    All the possible patterns of the past
    And future exist simultaneously,
    Independent of the passage of time frames,
    So, the history of a temporal universe…

    Why Time
    Moving through those possible patterns
    Will inevitably trace backward to
    The extreme, greatest imbalance, and hence
    To the severe order of the Alpha start.

    Time’s Direction
    It seems strange that time began from Alpha,
    Unless patterns are physically real.
    Then time invariably originates
    From the greatest imbalance of them all.

    Toward Balance
    Time’s forward direction is ever toward balance.
    And so when it’s traced backward, that same path
    Invariably originates from imbalance;
    The temporal universe is as it must be.

    Time Explained
    Any path of time embedded within
    A physically real pattern space would
    Exhibit a history that originates from the
    Single most improbable location of all: Alpha.

    Probable Existence
    Since pattern space is existingly there
    Then the flow of time is built into reality,
    Causing probable time-worlds to exist, while
    Extremely improbable time-worlds do not.

    What Exists
    All possibilities must exist,
    Because nonexistence cannot be so.
    Existence is inevitable. What does exist?
    Whatever is possible to exist does exist.

    Our Existence is Not Absurd
    Time-worlds are secondary, subject to
    The realer reality of timeless patterns.
    Time’s passage must pass through patterns;
    ‘Tis no more spectacular than a moment.

    What Patterns Lead to
    The must-existence of patterns is great—
    For the hierarchy of atomic elements,
    Stars systems, bio-life, consciousness,
    And finally intelligence and wisdom.

    No Chaotic Change
    If time and change were not restricted
    To probability’s arrow of time
    Built into pattern space then anything
    Could happen and would happen, as chaos.

    Quantum Collapse
    Quantum events are a “handshake” between
    Past (retarded waves) information
    And future (advanced waves) information,
    Causing the probabilities to collapse to ‘now’.

    Probabilities Produced From the Whole
    Time doesn’t simply roll into the future,
    For there’s a mesh of probabilities
    Where possible pasts and futures meet,
    Which scientists correctly call ‘non-local’.

    The Complete Transaction
    When we stand in the dark and look at
    A star not only have the retarded waves
    From the star have been long traveling,
    But advanced waves have reached into the past.

    The End Promotes the Means
    Time’s river, having a specific ending, explains
    Why the universe’s wave function is specific.
    If what’s possible was just coming from the past,
    There’s no reasonable explanation…

    The Guidance Goal: Lake Alpha to Lake Omega
    For the control of all the probabilities,
    Such as the wave density of atomic particles,
    A river only from the past would be
    Flowing outward into chaos, but it can’t.

    The New Natural Selection
    ‘Evolution’ is thus an ordered happening,
    From the unnoted neutral order in the future,
    Along with the positive order of the past.
    (So now we know there must be a negative.)

    The Whole Thing
    The positive order in the Alpha past
    Is only half of the Cosmos’ puzzle,
    Merely half of a larger duality, one side
    Of the great divide, one side of the coin.

    The Chess Board
    Our Alpha is one chess player as the game begins,
    When all the pieces of one color are divided apart,
    Half of the most extreme case of grouping order;
    Both Alphas are the highest imbalance and contrast.

    Time, and Time Again
    Time travels from positive to neutral,
    While anti-time travels from negative to neutral,
    But, note that time & anti-time are much identical.
    We may even be alternating back and forth.

    Matter Traveling Backward in Time
    If matter is evolving forward in time,
    Anti-matter is matter evolving backward in time,
    In the direction of our own positive Alpha,
    Explaining why anti-matter is unstable on our side.

    Other Matters
    Stable anti-matter exists on the other side
    Of ours in anti-time, traveling inversely in time,
    Not backwards, but away from the negative Alpha
    Toward the universal Omega.

    Space-Time Distance
    Since time is a direction in space,
    Then the space that we’re within is special.
    It’a not a 3-D space in which things move about;
    It is instead what Einstein called space-time.

    4-D, Not 3-D
    Space-time is a product of “4-D directions”
    In space that travel through a series of many
    3-D block-like spaces, jumping from one to the next,
    As a new volume dependent on the 4-D directions.

    The Probability of Balance
    Exterior to the 3-D spaces, the 4-D volume
    That we exist within changes and transforms;
    It evolves because most of the spacial
    Directions move from Alpha toward Omega.

    The Unnoted Dimension
    This 4-D volume is what collapses
    In the phase of accelerating expansion (Big Rip),
    Even though the actual universe is expanding.
    This acceleration is inevitable.

    Driven by Opposites
    This dominant probability
    Makes our volume (our space) positive
    In reference to the volume of
    Anti-time which is negative.

    Inversion
    Anti-time is a negative space,
    Or negative space-time,
    Which is properly referred to
    As negative volume.

    The Unseen Scene
    Inverse matter can only exist in
    The negative volume of anti-time.
    We cannot observe the negative density
    Of an inverse-proton in our positive space.

    Two Worlds
    Our positive volume would collapse
    Before the inverse proton could
    Exist spatially extended, on our side
    Of the dividing line between worlds.

    Amazing
    The negative electron is but a point particle.
    Our positive volume collapses before
    The negative density that gives the electron
    A definite mass can exist spatially extended.

    Front and Back
    Electrons are one side of inverse-protons in anti-time,
    Which means the back side of our protons
    Are inverse electrons, and our electrons
    Are the back side of someone else’s protons.

    For Opposites to Move To Balance
    The whole progression of time is driven
    By a slow cosmic influx of negative density leaking
    Into our positive volume from the other side;
    A slow merging of the two sides is occurring,

    Expansion
    The two sides must slowly and gradually unite,
    Which from our perspective causes
    The cosmos to grow larger and expand,
    In the first steps away from Alpha,…

    Divergence
    Time is stepping away from the uniformity
    And sameness of a perfect positive state
    And is necessarily moving into the
    Beginning of variety and diversity.

    Intermixed
    The negative can visibly invade Alpha
    By tunneling into its positive space,
    Creating fluctuations in the CBR, or at
    Micro-scales as negative charge point particles.

    The Cosmic Plans
    In order to control the cosmos,
    In the necessity to bring itself about,
    Omega must even rigidly regulate
    The early cosmos in its first moments.

    Equality
    As if planning to bring about complexity and life,
    The early fluctuations in expansion are moderate,
    The masses of electrons all kept equal,
    The ratio of electrons-protons kept even.

    Has to Be
    With the precision of a watchmaker,
    The inevitable future carefully designs
    The stable particles with properties that will
    Produce the periodic table, molecules, even DNA.

    Only Two Ways
    Why just the proton and electron?
    Why just two stable fundamental particles?
    Why are they matched with polar charges?
    They are forged with a specific goal in mind.

    All the Pieces of the Puzzle
    We know what we think of as a material universe
    Is really an intricate interplay of imbalances.
    All that is known are positives and negatives,
    As the stable protons and electrons.

    The March of Time
    Following time backward only increases imbalance,
    In seeing that time originates fully positive,
    And then slowly becomes less positive,
    Until it becomes neutral, centered.

    The Trend Shows
    We now realize there actually should be
    Great imbalances evident in the world around us.
    There should be even much greater
    Imbalances evident in our Alpha past.

    1836 Times More Massive
    The proton should be heavier than the electron.
    We don’t note an equal number of anti-matter galaxies.
    We shouldn’t expect there to be equal amounts
    Of matter & anti-matter near the beginning of time.

    The Mystery
    The question that has haunted us for so long,
    “Why is there something rather than nothing?”
    Is related to asking “Why is there asymmetry?”
    “Why are there imbalances present?”

    The Results
    Form and material things, substance itself,
    Are products of the imbalances that
    Exist within the cosmic balance—
    Everything a great tapestry of imbalance.

    Further Why
    And when we ask the question “Why are
    There imbalances instead of why somethingness?”
    It’s simple and unavoidable that imbalances exist.
    Imbalances are natural inside any overall balance.

    Should Have Known the Timeless Everything
    Our finite world could only be an imbalanced system.
    We exist because a balanced whole exists,
    Which we incorrectly see as nothing,
    And worse still, confuse with nonexistence.

    The Forces Explained
    All forces are probabilities, simply the
    Most predictable events we experience.
    In fact, gravity is the probability
    For time to travel backwards.

    Gravity is Time Moving Backwards
    Gravity is trying to recreate the past.
    In an expanding universe the past
    Is increasingly denser; less expanded.
    Gravity battles with the universe’s expansion.

    Expansion is a Force From the Future
    The trend of nature is not at all toward disorder,
    But it is for balance to increase.
    Being drawn toward the balance of zero
    The universe invariably expands.

    Two Steps Forward, One Step Back
    The universe’s expansion is time moving forward.
    Cosmological expansion isn’t a consequence
    Of some chance explosion in the past.
    It is a force, just like gravity (Gravity’s losing).

    Electromagnetism is Time Moving Forward
    Electromagnetism is the perfect balance
    Of the future’s absolute zero influencing the present.
    The balance of the future, the most probable state,
    Is a great cosmic attractor of all universes-change.

    Push-Pull
    We can feel absolute zero pulling
    And pushing the cosmos around.
    We feel this balance of zero
    As electricity and magnetism.

    Moving Toward Greater Balance
    Positive and negative particles
    Are moving nearer to the balance,
    For like particles will naturally repel
    While opposite particles attract.

    Imagine Electromagnetism in Reverse
    Like particles would then attract
    And opposite particles would repel.
    Such a force would cause positive and negative
    Particles to divide apart into separate groups.

    Nucleon Binding
    In fact, when like particles such as
    Positive protons bond together,
    Time is actually moving backward.
    The strong force is electromagnetism in reverse.

    How it Works
    The strong force battles against electromagnetism,
    Causing positive protons
    to attract at short distances.
    If protons and neutrons get close enough,
    The repulsion of electromagnetism is overcome.

    The Ranges
    The strong force holds the nucleus together,
    Just like gravity holds-creates stars and galaxies.
    The strong force is the short range gravity;
    Electromagnetism dominates on the larger scale.

    The Power Broker Breaker
    Something must overcome the strong force,
    Because electromagnetism cannot break
    The bond between like protons by itself.
    Electromagnetism-expansion beats gravity-strong.

    Forces Are the Possible Directions of Time
    At some point in the future the weak force
    Has to break down all the complex atoms in
    The universe into individual protons and electrons.
    The Weak Force is time moving forward.

    The Power of the Weak
    The weak force is an extension of electromagnetism.
    The weak force grew out of electromagnetism
    In the early stages of the big bang,
    Prior to which there was just the electroweak force.

    No Absolute Motion
    Objects do not move about in Newton’s vessel
    Of empty space because a real perfectly
    Flat space would be absolutely chock full.
    Thus, the relative, not absolute universe.

    Empty Curvatures
    Objects can only exist as distinct forms
    In a space where their opposites have
    Been removed or displaced to create
    A half space or parallel regions.

    Space, the Final Frontier
    This creates the present interdependence
    Between matter and space which led Einstein
    To describe space as an extension of mass.
    ‘Space’ seems to be the ultimate challenge.

    The Ultimate Puzzle
    We’ve learned about space relative to materials.
    A common theme is that matter and space
    Are two forms of the same thing. Not exactly.
    Matter is really an absence of content.

    All Told and Tolled
    If the cosmos stretches totally flat,
    Then matter and space are equivalent,
    But this leads to a very dramatic switch
    In how we evaluate the universe, whereby we see…

    What Matters
    That particles are holes in a primary full space,
    Rather than material things arisen
    Above and more primary than space.
    Matter is a bi-product of space.

    Two Apples Means Two More Anti-Apples
    For our universe to exist, an identical
    But opposite anti-matter universe
    Has to be removed from space.
    Why are we separate from our other half?

    Half and Half
    Perfect symmetry doesn’t create nonexistence.
    Perfect symmetry is just everything experienced
    At the same time in the same space.
    Opposites don’t cancel—we’re here observing half.

    In Order For There to be Symmetry
    From our place in the world, we cannot
    Or would not directly observe unified symmetry.
    It’s hidden, in our future or in our past.
    We need to be here; there has to be asymmetry.

    Nonexistence Isn’t; Perfect Symmetry Is
    The combination of our galaxy
    With an inverse anti-matter galaxy,
    As combined, and every other pair of galaxies,
    All exist joined together in ordinary space.

    Taken and Placed Somewhere Else
    And so matter is not more than space;
    It is less than space; it’s what happens
    When part of something whole is taken away,
    Taken from the place and time we call ‘now’.

    The New Normal
    It’s difficult to re-normalize after such a switch,
    But the fullness or substantive aspect we attribute
    To matter is present in space more than in matter.
    Dense matter’s an absence, as in the tiny early universe.

    Things Aren’t More Than Nothing
    Mass and density are both a measure of absence.
    Objects cannot exist unless their opposite
    Is removed from that seeming emptiness.
    Things are then less than everything.

    Accentuating the Positive
    A negative density can only
    Exist in a negative volume, just as
    Positive density can only exist in a positive volume.
    This allows the mass value to ever remain positive.

    Curves
    Matter is like bubbles in a water aquarium—
    Tiny voids in a denser medium.
    Density is a positive or negative void
    That causes the curvature of the bubble.

    Going, Going…
    We live in a positive bubble (volume)
    That is actually collapsing,
    As distant galaxies expand away from us
    At speeds beyond the speed of light.

    Everything Leaks
    We detect the mass of a negative
    Density as a point of zero volume,
    Or what is called a point particle;
    Electrons leaked over from the anti-time side.

    Each as Half of Totality
    The electron leak is in response to the
    Existence of protons on our side,
    Which is why the ratio of electrons
    To protons in the universe is exactly even.

    The Point of It
    So why does the electron point particle
    Have a defined mass, as opposed to infinite?
    A negative density cannot be
    Spatially extended in a positive volume.

    Confined to a Point
    The electron mass exists in a negative
    Volume that opens up beyond the point of the
    Electron in the ghostlike invisible partner.
    Negative density also explains polarity of charge.

    Credited Debits
    Positive and negative things are debts
    That have to be repaid to a larger neutral space.
    Charges reflect imbalances in a spatial content.
    To create particles creates indents, or curvatures.

    The Flow
    The only way for the plus-minus puzzle pieces
    To exist separate from one another
    Is if time originates from such a state,
    An imbalance, then moves toward equilibrium.

    One Way
    Equilibrium never breaks down into imbalance;
    Something does not come from nothing.
    But time will start from something imbalanced,
    And evolve toward balance, or ‘nothing’.

    A Four Dimensional Space
    When you combine an infinite past and future,
    Time is-was relative (allowing the infinite).
    Everything exists in one huge moment of now,
    Which supersedes the possibility of existential change.

    The Printed Pages
    Time-worlds are imprinted within the great moment,
    So the time of such worlds must travel linearly
    From a beginning on to an ending.
    Books have binding; movie frames are projected.

    The Clock-Block Universe
    At any tick of the clock the world is
    In a particular condition or state,
    Which is called lateral time, and each distinct
    Moment is in an individual universe.

    Linear and Lateral Time
    How can distinctly separate blocks of space
    Be simultaneously fused into a linear progression?
    If they are fused then they are not distinct;
    If they are distinct, then they aren’t really fused.

    The Separate and the Common
    What separates one block of time from another?
    Only the definition of each time block
    Maintains it as separate from other states, and
    Spaces are always linked by a common existence.

    The Sum of the Fragments
    They are all embedded in the same great
    Never ending moment—all fragments of the whole.
    Each spatial pattern is a tiny internal part,
    And only the patterns’ sum creates the whole.

    The Lateral
    There exist directions in space which travel across
    Or through the multiplicity of these blocks—
    A 4-D that independently constructs
    The lateral component of its surroundings.

    Governed by the Innate Probabilities
    Each individual direction moving through
    The blocks becomes a sort of parent
    To a lateral time world—its own 4-D space,
    Strictly relative to that single parent direction.

    Replacing Chaotic Freedom
    Each of these directions in space are free to find
    Their way through the overall multispatiality,
    Except the direction of travel, and so each path
    Is governed by the probabilities of the superspace.

    A Very Strict Guidance System
    The result is a fourth dimensionality of space,
    In which the lateral surroundings of each 4-D
    Parent direction are uniquely constructed
    Strictly relative to that single parent direction.

    The Series of Stills
    Time passes through many spaces, and
    Each block is an individual moment.
    An object does not move through the spaces,
    Rather it stays and exists frozen in each space.

    Time Rules
    Only time, which is actually a
    Special direction in space, is able
    To pass through multiple 3-D spaces,
    Traveling from one moment to the next.

    4-D Touches All of 3-D
    An undivided existence of all
    Conceivable 3-D configurations
    Would inevitably create the 4-D of
    Spatial directions passing between the blocks.

    The Full Range
    We will invariably observe a sampling
    Of galaxies which reflects the widest range
    Of configurations that pattern space dictates, plus
    Ranges of solar systems, planets, moons, asteroids.

    All
    We will observe the whole range of geography,
    The whole range of possible chemistry,
    The whole range of other lifeforms,
    The whole range of personalities.

    Connections
    All is then integrated into the parent direction,
    Inevitably causing expansion and growth—
    Letters, words, phrases, sentences, verse (uni).
    We ourselves are the evolution of time.
  • Former Theists, how do you avoid nihilism?
    a long-range rational view of how the world works is necessary to see the sensible order and positive direction of Evolution.Gnomon

    Once we posit a director for evolution, then by the same template we'll need a Director for the director, and even all the more because of its larger realm needing extra-explanation.

    We can deduce that 'IS' is all there is, since what is fundamental is by necessity (having no opposite), as a superposition of every path of events, since it can't be any particular path because not anything particular can come into the 'IS' as as any specific direction or knowing.

    So then, the particular path of our workable universe had to have the other paths pruned away from it, not that the other paths disappeared but that they are not there from our point of view.

    Thus, it is a truth that there was a carving out of our universe's path, and so this truth is the proof; however, curiosity still remains but that can only be about the implementation.

    One might still stand in awe of the 'IS' as the everything of all events superposed; however, everything has no information content, which is the same as 'random' and 'Nothing' hasn't, and so the 'IS' isn't so great, plus, since it must be so, with no option not to be, it has no power over that 'must', nor does it have the power to go away. 'IS' is ungenerated and Deathless. We and all are part and parcel of the 'IS', for there can't be anything independent of it just sitting around.

    Turning the 'IS' into a Wiz having a Mind and being an intentional Creator by figuring out a Quiz is a step too far for the logic of philosophy.
  • An Estimate for no ‘God’
    not knowing GodOld Brian

    He is in hidinggod must be atheist



    Then to the rolling Heav’n itself I cried,
    Asking, “What Lamp had Destiny to guide
    Her little Children stumbling in the Dark?”
    And—“A blind understanding!” Heav’n replied.

    — FitzOmar
  • An Estimate for no ‘God’
    4 billion years of expansion has stretched the original information over the 2D surface of a thin membraneGnomon

    Nobody’s Theory of No Absolutes

    (The first line of each stanza is the title)

    Absolute Totality vs. Relative Totality
    None isn’t ‘outside’ nor can be in here,
    Nor can Finite One be, with None outside;
    Thus, there is no absolute One or None,
    Which forces a relative ‘in-between’.

    ‘One’ as an Absolute Totality Fails Even More
    Thus, we can’t step into what isn’t there,
    Nor can a One expand into a None,
    Nor can there be spacers of None
    Within the arena of a One.

    Relativism
    Absolute time, space, particles, and motion
    Are impossible, which forces relativeness—
    Of fractional/fractal relations of
    Near endless variations of quanta.

    The Oddness of Light Photons
    Light is ‘null’ to time—not a part of it,
    Nor is light of space—it makes space-time ‘lit’.
    On a light beam there’s no extent or time!
    Light seems to have neither reason nor rhyme.

    Already There
    Light’s full speed in a true vacuum
    Of no time and no space is as ‘infinite’,
    For it is already everywhere;
    In other words: everywhere in no time.

    Light/Matter
    Light photons colliding make for
    Electrons and positrons, and vice-versa,
    With the forward-time of photons being
    Canceled by the backward-time gravitons.

    Forth and Back and Forth
    Photons are made of something and its anti,
    Releasing them as electrons and positrons,
    In collisions, regaining them in their union
    Upon annihilations, this zero-point stretched.

    The Zero-Point Extended Broadcast
    This point of creation-annihilation
    Is extended into a faux reality,
    Both by finite consciousness and by
    Light slowed by virtual particle pairs.

    Phantasmal Being
    Each ‘now’ that’s created and recreated
    Over the various relative quanta
    Has really already happened, coming, going,
    And never ever returning, gone in a flash.

    Once Upon a ‘Time’
    Of course, it did all really happen ‘once’,
    As in all-at-once, in the timeless realm
    That must be the state of the ‘eternal’ IS,
    With IS being close to what’s called the ‘Wiz’.

    Nether-Nor
    So, neither absolute solidity
    Nor absolute vacuity can be,
    Leaving relativism as a necessity,
    Dooming ‘God’, permanence, meaning, and free.

    The Play
    Our ‘reality’ is as a flip-book’s pages turning,
    The still pictures changing a bit, granting
    An apparent motion, such as in a movie;
    However, we do get to experience it!

    Come and Gone
    Like the light from a star already spent,
    Our ‘get up and go’ has long gone and went.
    We all birthed, lived, and died right away;
    There’s nothing left but the slo-mo replay.

    Being Nothingness
    Our parentheses in eternity
    Flashes as a twinkling, but’s extended
    By ‘time’ into a phantasmic life dream
    That’s existent the same as if it were.

    In the Eye of the Beholder
    A life-dream’s like a rainbow, not really there,
    A false phenomenon become tangible
    Through relativism, this faux true,
    Molding temporary significance.

    Arbitrary
    Life’s indeterminate and not, the same
    Being brought by the virtual as the true,
    The mechanics being as incidental
    As why ‘color’ chose its wave frequencies.

    The Mechanics of Reality
    The result, being the message, is undeniable,
    But herein we speak of the messenger,
    Which is the implementation,
    As that of a recording, over a live band.

    The Balance of Opposites
    Life’s here, as like virtual particles
    Born this side of an event horizon
    Of a Black Hole, real-eyes(ed) by their presence
    In the realm of what’s been radiated.

    What Makes No Difference is No Difference
    There is no difference in what makes none;
    ‘Relativism’ is now playing, the living film—
    A reality show in the inner theater
    Of the mind’s eye, with the ‘I’ observing.

    Existence Has No Opposite
    ‘Possibility’ is what’s fundamental,
    For all that can be must first be possible.
    This ‘Potential’ for All is the default,
    Since a NOT can’t be, or even be meant.

    The Math
    0/0 = n (all variations), since any n times 0 = 0,
    So, 0/0 is as nonexistence divided by itself
    Into all of the various relative states;
    No absolutes, so there’s only the temporary.

    More Math
    Zero is the greatest number, for it represents
    The sum of negative and positive infinities.
    Note that an actual infinity cannot be,
    For it cannot be capped, and thus has no being.

    Lighting the Way
    Our finite speed of light, ‘c’, is such
    Because it is slowed by virtual particles,
    But, even so, to ride it makes time instant,
    With all space shrinking to a point.

    The Cosmic Egg
    The cosmos is as a giant neutron or photon,
    The crests and troughs waving, in a
    Relative existence, between Zero and One,
    Unable to reach either, jiggling-rippling.

    Not Unbreakable, Not Unmakeable
    The necessity of no One and no None
    Makes for no absolutes, which means
    That time, space, matter, and motion
    Have no intrinsic, indivisible qualities.

    The First Cause
    Thus, our ‘reality’ is only apparent,
    Yet this effect happens always, everywhere,
    For the causeless-defaulted ‘cause’ of this
    Potential-Possibility must always be such.

    Total Solidity and Complete Vacuity Can’t Be
    The One and the None cannot mix;
    Then there would be two opposite absolutes;
    Plus, what is solid could not move,
    So, neither can cut it; relativism rules.

    The Duos and Duels of Nature
    Dualities seem to assist nature:
    Good-evil, on-off, hot-cold, man-woman,
    Up-down, left-right, here-there, past-future, and
    So, neither can exist without the other.

    Opposition Now and Thus Always
    Object and Subject are of what Man is made,
    Qualia brightly floating in Nature’s shade
    Of consciousness, and so then down through history
    Opposition’s trace of steps is there to see.

    Never/Ever Becoming
    What’s said to be eternal isn’t made—
    It’s here, from not anything, with no debit paid,
    Which is to say, too, it’s not from anywhere,
    And that seems pretty much like from nowhere.

    No Source
    Well, there’s nothing to make anything of,
    So, then, that is ever what it’s made of,
    Whether eternal or always becoming,
    In that nether-land of the law of no laws.

    Uncaused
    For what is causeless there is no point
    At which any specific direction
    Can be imparted to it; thus, there is none:
    Everything that is possible can happen.

    Dichotomy
    There must be a duality of Yin and Yang,
    Such as Being and Nothingness combined,
    For what is complete unto itself has no
    Catalyst from which to initiate change.

    Binary Dialectic Dichotomies Bifurcate
    Of Being and Nothingness the Universe
    Banged forth space and time intertwined,
    And within this became the contrast
    Of electromagnetism’s transition.

    The Oppositional Essence Continues On
    Of electromagnetism then
    Particles and radiation become,
    Opposed, as lumps and fields, as incarnate:
    Electrons, six quark types, and the photon.

    The Why of Being and Nothingness
    Being and all that it is not exhausts
    All Possibility, as opposites,
    And so they must form a duality,
    For there’s no point to specify either.

    Beyond Local Reality
    Time, space, stuff, change, and form are real-ized from
    The Fundamental Possibility,
    Becoming the penultimate reality,
    One possible from the probabilities.

    Quantum Superposition is Real
    Our reality comes not from nothing,
    But exists always as possibility,
    One that amounts to something workable,
    Among all in superposition.

    The First Impossibility
    No form of a penultimate realness
    Could exist alone before the rest, since
    Everything is quantum-known-all-at-once;
    For what could make the choice among many?

    The Second Impossibility
    Nor comes it from an absolute nothing,
    Since there can be no such ‘thing’ at all,
    So, since either way is impossible,
    Fundamental Possibility IS.

    The Unbelievable Truth
    This ultimate basis of reality,
    Though not much like our local reality,
    Is hinted at by quantum physics—
    It forms reality real as can be!

    The Verifiable Truth
    So how else could it be, for particles
    Do appear and disappear from somewhere,
    Going from here to there, with no between,
    Manifesting from no-where to now-here.

    The Shimmering Gleam
    We butterflies, on the edge of forever’s flight,
    Spread fast our wings on the ocean of light
    That is of the ageless photonic opposing waves
    In no time, mass, or space that is thereby made.

    Here and Now Only
    We are as beings of the everlasting light dream,
    As products time and time again by its means,
    Of the eternal return, as baubles blown and burst,
    Though frames of time that quench life’s thirst.

    Nowhere Man/Woman
    Time future, time present, and time past
    Are all at once, with not a bit of it to last.
    The glorious light flashes us into being shone,
    As the light ‘eternal’ of all time to be known.

    Back and Forth
    The photon secrets something and its anti,
    Releasing them as electrons and positrons,
    In collisions, regaining them, in their union
    Upon annihilations, this zero-point stretched.

    The Age-Old Question
    Why is there something rather than nothing?
    Well, the question is now moot, for there’s neither
    An absolute something (it’s relative)
    Nor an absolute nothing. Neither can be.

    Nothing Outside
    What is that which is outside the universe?
    There can be no absolute universe
    With an absolute nothingness
    Outside, so the question’s become moot.

    In No Time and No Space
    What came first, the matter or the light,
    Since it seems that each needs the other to be?
    There’s no first, only at the same ‘time’.
    Photons, electrons, positrons are all-at-once.

    Relativism, Ever In-between
    Why is the relative universe
    So incredibly ‘infinitely’ large?
    Because the small has to be so
    Incredibly infinitesimal, as the simple.

    Instantaneous
    Where did relative existence some from?
    There is nothing to make it of, but it had to be,
    Since it is here, so it all cancels out,
    Instantly; it’s simultaneous.

    The Default Condition
    Who or what made our relative existence?
    No one and no-thing, for it is
    Of the simple brute force of all scenarios—
    As relatively existing between Zero and One.

    No Such Thing
    How could some absolute existents
    Be indivisible-unbreakable, and unmakeable?
    There aren’t any, so the problem is moot.
    ‘Nothing lasts’—it’s the “nonexistent absolute”.

    One of the Better Universes
    The flowing through all paths of everything
    Guarantees that the best solutions will be found,
    Which beats Intelligence that tries to foresee all,
    But never can; nor can the complex be First.

    The Lumping is Still a Wave
    Is the two-slit experiment result perplexing?
    No, for fields are primary, not ‘particles’,
    For what is thought of as ‘particles’
    Are field quanta; a wave will go through both slits.

    It is Just to Be
    What is the purpose of our existence?
    None, but we do ‘exist’ in one of the
    Relative scenarios whose path led to us.
    Our existence was inherent, all along.

    Indirect Existence
    But 99.99999 percent of the ‘time’
    We were not around, and perhaps ‘we’ are
    Not there in 99.99999 percent of all ‘space’.
    We weren’t a primary objective, nor was any.

    Being
    Did the universe have a beginning?
    No, because the universe cannot be
    Affected by anything outside it.
    It just is, and, beyond’, it also isn’t.

    Why Not Any Certain Way?
    If the relative universe is eternal,
    Then what is there to explain the way it is?
    It is ‘universes’ in every way,
    And so not any universe in particular.

    No Linear Movement Through Space
    Does a whole new universe appear at every ‘now’?
    Yes, one doesn’t step into the same universe twice,
    This somewhat analogous to someone clever,
    Who said, that we never step into the same river.

    Greatness
    What is the source of all this existence,
    For that still seems to make it great?
    Unconsciousness, nothing, no-mind is
    The be-all, start-all, and end-all, as ‘great’.

    Nature’s Mistake?
    Should we then let go of all our ego?
    Not necessarily, for the ego is
    An input to our resultant zest for life;
    However, take it all in with a grain of salt.

    Step Back
    Yes, detach from it all when necessary.
    It is as a play within no play,
    In no place in no time, just relative.
    The timeless-formless is as ‘nothingness’.

    Still Asking
    What is the meaning in all that?
    Only what we have and enjoy
    In the here and now, internally.
    Externally, there isn’t anything.

    No Real Reality
    Forget about indivisible fundamental substance;
    It would be unbreakable and thus unmakable.
    For the ‘null’, look to the unconscious,
    ‘Finite’ to consciousness, ‘method’ to the subconscious.

    The Gateway to Perfection
    Enjoy the play that you get to act in,
    Sometimes retreating to the back row,
    As the distanced audience, witnessing afar,
    Finding peace and everlasting gladness.
  • Voluntarism: will v. intellect
    To be or not to be3017amen

    Being or becoming: that is the question
    That haunts existence’s investigation:

    Whether ’tis simpler for the All to offer
    The slings and vectors of a told fortune
    All at once, as a marble monument,
    Or to perform in the sea of actions,
    And by disposing ever create them?
  • Voluntarism: will v. intellect
    In other words, are you thinking that is some sort of a metaphysical necessity? Or a conscious necessity of sorts...3017amen

    A metaphysical necessity since there can't be 'Nothing'.
  • Voluntarism: will v. intellect
    My question is, what is the metaphysical will to exist (both for Man, and Universe)?3017amen

    To be is mandatory, since there can be no opposite; so, will is not required.
  • An Estimate for no ‘God’
    Nowhere Man

    Time future, time present, and time past
    Are all at once, with not a bit of it to last.
    The glorious light flashes us into being shone,
    As the light ‘eternal’ of all time to be known.

    We are the beings of the everlasting light dream,
    As products time and time again, by its means,
    Of the eternal return, as baubles blown and burst,
    Though draughts of time that quench life’s thirst.

    We butterflies, on the edge of forever’s flight,
    Spread fast our wings on the ocean of light
    That is of the ageless photonic opposing waves
    In no time, mass, or space that is thereby made.
  • An Estimate for no ‘God’
    Hence, Real Reality is 2D, and Virtual Reality is 3D.Gnomon

    THE HOLOGRAPHIC UNIVERSE

    When a tree falls in the forest
    And there’s no one around to hear it,
    Does it make a sound?


    No, for there is no ear to turn
    The sound waves into sound.

    Nor is there a smell, for there is no nose
    For the odorous molecules to attach to,
    Nor has it any color, for there is
    No retina to decode the light frequencies.

    What does it look like, then?

    It doesn’t look like anything,
    For there is no brain to put it all together
    By detecting form, color, texture,
    Size, taste, smell, or vision.

    Since the entropy of a black hole is known
    To depend on the surface area of
    The event horizon and NOT on its volume,
    Then our third dimension MIGHT BE a projection.

    A projected illusion, as in a hologram,
    May still be used as it were really there
    Since we can make sense of it, so to speak,
    But, in truth, the third dimension may not exist.

    Thus, apparently separate particles,
    Like created photon pairs,
    Copy the other when one is changed,
    Because, in truth, they are still
    The same thing in the projector room.

    If the universe is holographic,
    Then the tree in the forest,
    Whether seen or not,
    Is, at heart, an interference pattern
    Brought to life only when we tune it in.

    This is the mystery of the realness
    Of sleeping dreams revealed:
    We tune in to the interference patterns,
    Whether awake or asleep,
    To bring alive the reality projected.

    Everything connects to everything else
    Through overlapping interference patterns,
    And so nothing is so separate at all, as it seems,
    But is one large all-encompassing whole.

    Memory, too, seems to be holographic,
    Residing everywhere in the brain,
    Every piece associated with others related,
    Instantly broadcasting all the connections.

    Every part of a hologram contains the whole,
    The whole universe contained within
    A grain of sand, all eternity within a moment,
    The universe rumbling when an electron vibrates.

    We are part and parcel of everything—
    We are the cosmos; we are life; we are love;
    We are all that is; we are the creator
    Of the dance as well as the dancer.

    Whether the past is recorded and accessible
    As part of the holographic whole is not known
    Or whether the other two dimensions are
    Projected, as well, but perhaps we shall see.

    This then is the secret of the universe,
    Knowing of that which underlies all reality:
    Fundamental, absolute, indestructible,
    Omnipresent, indeterminate, but all pervasive.

    Why absolute and fundamental?

    Because it is made of one piece—itself,
    And therefore indestructible, and eternal, too,
    And makes up all that there is, everywhere.

    (The Infinite may radiate through a matrix,
    Using Information or Energy to create
    The Cosmic Background antenna which broadcasts
    Interference patterns of virtual reality.)
  • Omar Khayyam
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    131
    Though hewn for study of the stars I am,
    And philosophy too, hear Old Khayyam:
    Let her tangled tresses attract your view,
    And enjoy wine, verse, and a leg of lamb.

    I run my hand through Ruby's hair.

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    Bodleian

    33
    The universe’s mantle binds us worn—
    Tears feeding the river on which we’re borne.
    Hell’s but an ember of our senseless fears;
    Heaven’s the rose-breath of opening morn.

    105
    Relate my good deeds o’er and o’er again,
    And forgive each fault, sin, and crime times ten.
    Let’s not kindle, stir, blow, or fan the flame;
    Grace is Divine; no need to ink the pen.

    110
    Oh, meddling thoughts that harp on reason’s plea,
    My cheeks glow red from the loved one’s grape tree,
    So to your face I throw my other hand,
    And drop you into sleep, oh fantasy. 

    Ruby says, “It would be refreshing to act silly, after all that seriousness and considering the  effects of our drinking.”

    “Good idea!”

    “What is this on the menu?” she asks, pointing to something odd.

    “That’s escargot—land snails.”

    “Ah, good to have some slow food instead of fast McDonald’s.”

    “It’s Lent; one must have fast food!”

    “No, it isn’t; nor is it Ramadon.”

    “This is a formal dining room for the creme de la creme, the imagined elite of the old Omar Khayyam Club of over a hundred years ago!”

    “Hey, the snail, it’s moving!”

    “Oh, it’s on the menu, and walking across it!”

    “I must be from someone else’s dinner; they really should have cooked it more.”

    “Look at that ‘little car go’!”

    “It’s solar powered.”

    “So are bacteria, via photosynthesis.”

    “Are bacteria the back doors of a cafeteria?”

    “We are getting our humor languages mixed up.”

    “Oh, OK, then, ‘Souhaitez-vous embrasser un chameau?’”

    “That’s not quite right. You just asked me if I wanted to kiss a camel.”

    “Oh, I’m sorry. Let’s stick to English and get our dinner going onward somewhat more romantically.”

    “To you, my dear: You are the bubbling froth that stirs and excites the drink.”

    “And to you, my sparking spirit friend: may the bubbles burst across your pallet, and also upon your tongue, the drips of that juicy flood watering your taste buds.”

    We leaned across the table and met in a kiss.

    “Such a tasty appetizer upon my lips.”

    “Soul meets soul in a kiss, like an eclipse.”

    “To the ends of the galaxy we will go!”

    “And beyond the edge of space.”

    “There’s nothing there.”

    “OK, then to the new dimensional directions of outward and inward.”

    “I can’t figure out who’s talking in this scene.”

    “Doesn’t matter, for we are one now.”

    “Shall we have the ‘les frites francois’?

    “French fries!”

    “Do they have eskimo pie?”

    “Nope; they don’t serve cannibals here.”

    “I ordered the leg of mutton.”

    “I’m having Pieds de porc, Foie gras, Tripe, Langue de boeuf, Tête de veau, Ris de veau, Andouillette, Couilles de mouton, and Oursins, for starters.”

    “Ugh.”

    Your wine, my persona radiata,
    Fills my golden chalice. Oh, Sultana,
    I’m intoxicated by your love-stream
    Flowing freely; oh dear, amorata!

    Purgatory’s on Venus, where sulfurs rain.
    Hell’s found in the sun’s heart—hot burning pain!
    Of Heaven’s site, no one has an idea;
    It’s the world’s best kept secret: Earth’s its name!

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  • An Estimate for no ‘God’
    :smile: :razz: :grin: :blush: :cool:Gnomon

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    Bohm, too, suggested that the whole universe could be thought of as a kind of giant, flowing hologram, or holomovement, in which a total order is contained, in some implicit sense, in the same finite space.

    In reality, time is an illusion. The explicate order is a projection from higher dimensional levels of reality, and the apparent stability and solidity of the objects and entities composing it are generated and sustained by a ceaseless process of enfoldment and unfoldment, for the illusions of subatomic particles are constantly dissolving into the implicate order and then recrystallizing. So, our reality dissolves and reforms in a constant dance that, like moving pictures, cannot be perceived by the mind’s eye.

    We knew that this same type of stunning virtual reality was likely, for it is presented to us in our night dreams for our amusement or self-improvement, or some such reason.

    It would be interesting to know more of how the holographic reality operates, of course, so we could get to the next step, maybe even build our own virtual reality. Mr. Spielberg would surely buy into that.

    Perhaps, instead of building VR, though, we could tap into the one that already exists within us and is flexible enough to produce great movies: again, our own night dreams. If we could only record them, keeping the ones with movie quality film and exciting story lines, we could make and sell movies without paying millions of dollars to writers, directors, actors, and filmers.

    But who or what is the source of these night dream movies? Who is the producer, the director, etc.—for night dreams seem to contain surprises, a production capacity way beyond that of ourselves, of people acting in character modes that we as individuals might not even possess, say, that of being singers or comedians or whatever. I don’t see us putting Spielberg out of business soon, but I have many lucid dreams and I like to observe them closely; they are really quite spectacular. Sometimes, I just watch; other times I amaze the onlookers with my ability to fly and hover.

    One time, some music kept playing for a minute or so after I awoke. Other times, I am just amused by the viewpoint: I was in a plane that was crashing through a jungle, but the viewpoint suddenly switched to one that was from outside the plane, just as real movies do. So, dreams, their mere happening, should be telling us something remarkable about reality, and these kinds of clues are what I try to make significance of.
  • An Estimate for no ‘God’
    The nobody that is necessary to understand our universeGnomon

    Nowhere Man

    Time future, time present, and time past
    Are all at once, with not a bit of it to last.
    The glorious light flashes us into being shone,
    As the light ‘eternal’ of all time to be known.

    We are the beings of the everlasting light dream,
    As products time and time again, by its means,
    Of the eternal return, as baubles blown and burst,
    Though draughts of time that quench life’s thirst.

    We butterflies, on the edge of forever’s flight,
    Spread fast our wings on the ocean of light
    That is of the ageless photonic opposing waves
    In no time, mass, or space that is thereby made.

    Like the light from a star already spent,
    Our ‘get up and go’ has long gone and went.
    We all birthed, lived, and died right away;
    There’s nothing left but the slo-mo replay.

    Our parentheses in eternity
    Flashes as a twinkling, but’s extended
    By ‘time’ into a phantasmic life dream
    That’s existent the same as if it were.

    A life dream’s like a rainbow, not really there,
    A false phenomenon become tangible
    Through relativism, this faux true,
    Molding temporary significance.

  • An Estimate for no ‘God’
    PU, I would really like to have some of what you're smoking/vaping.uncanni

    Smoking in the desert near Timbuktu:
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    "what will happen if . . ."Gnomon

    Yogi Berra suddenly came out with “The future isn’t what it used to be.”

    Fredrick smiled. Although Yogi’s typical observation sounded like it had a negative connotation, Fredrick knew better, for many negatives had been developed into positives during his days of study that were numbered as the dates of his calendar. Also, although all the pluses and minuses added up to zero, Fredrick had the wisdom to know the difference, as well.

    “He’s alive!” reported Fredrick. “He’s out there somewhere! …where no man has gone before. And I don’t mean the ladies room!”

    Profpat posted, “I knew he wouldn’t depart, pass on, leave us, expire, perish, pass away, decease, or go to a better place.”

    Graybeard hinted, “You mean die?”

    “Yes.”

    “Well, that’s the last thing he’s going to do.”

    ‘Lifts’ in the UK soon became ‘elevators’ in the US; car ‘bonnets’ turned into ‘hoods’, and the ‘muzzies’ of Australia still stung as American ‘mosquitos’, but luckily nothing much else of any serious nature in this vein of language had diverged in any harmful way other than “apples of the ground” now being referred to as ‘potatoes’. Meat Loaf recorded his greatest song of “I’ll Do Anything for Love, But I Won’t Do That.” Let’s not get into country music song titles.

    Time was like a river, so Nobody followed the currents through all their twists and turns, not even stopping to ask directions, for there weren’t any (unlike Moses, who didn’t, and got lost for 40 years), swimming the butterfly stroke all the way back to the safety of Earth, 2019, almost taking a wrong turn at Albuquerque. All applauded his return, giving a great reception to the improver of reception, and told him of Earth’s many new marvels, for the tin foil had beat the odds, accomplishing some fantastic things:

    Color had arrived in the world, along with color TV, in the late 1950’s (just look at the black and white TV shows made before then for proof). High Definition and 4K had arrived, as well, which allowed us to examine in detail the pimples on a person’s face.

    Three types of “heavenly” things had become permanent features of the world: flowers, night dreams, and elfin creatures, the latter of which were the long sought missing link between man and angel (unfortunately some angels had gone bad, although many had remained good, and thus many leprechauns couldn’t be trusted).

    The Dark Ages had gotten brighter sooner (the Y1K problem), the printing press had been invented a century earlier, a book of Omar Khayyàm’s thousand year old quatrains was “discovered” in the Bodleian library by a janitor, not having been noticed there before, along with Plato’s new book of the month, ‘Beyond Metaphysics’, and Apple computers and products were ever improving and catching on to let us tune out reality (of all things) with the ipod, iphone, and the ipad.

    Someone named Shakespeare had gotten over his writer’s block of trying to open a lock with a fish and so had written some of the greatest stuff ever. Blondes began to prefer gentlemen. James the Lesser was shown to really have less, actually being Mary Magdelane. 10 years had been added to the human life span, meaning that 60 was not old anymore!

    However, we were stuck with cartoons, but, hey, they keep kids busy! Ernie Kovak’s saying of “Television is a medium because anything well done is rare” still stood firm, but we could better see what was worthless. People still told others to “have a nice day” even though they probably had other plans. Everyone still talked with their hands, even while on the phone. However, men now had nipples, but no matter.

    Enlightenment grew bright, consciousness becoming more that just “that boring time between naps”, but some still didn’t know and didn’t care one way or the other to know the difference between ignorance, apathy, and ambivalence. As for why a ‘building; was called that after it was built, no one knew. And why wasn’t a thesaurus a type of dinosaur?

    A new and useful color had appeared that was not even in the rainbow: “brown”. Humor was now more widespread, due to expanded and duplicate word meanings. The price of penny candy went up to a nickel; cigarettes now cost $1000 a pack. (I insured all of my packs, but they were eventually consumed by a series of small fires. My insurance company wouldn’t pay, so I took them to court, where I was convicted of arson.) However, all in all, the world was a better place, in that the worst times were now only the “worser”.

    Everyone on ThePhilosophyForum was awarded a free annual trip around the sun and one special trip to Poughkeepsie, NY. Second place was two trips to Poughkeepsie; third place, three trips to Poughkeepsie.

    ‘Everything’, at least locally, had indeed turned out to be a single whole in the space of “=” by MJA, but only in that every part of a hologram contained the whole. Quantum entanglement had always suggested this, as well, and now it was could be seen that we all have access to the entire universe at every point of the holographic interference pattern, the many more fractional points that were added by Nobody the better for its resolution. Everything connecting to everything proved to be a kind of perception in and of itself and so it begat a forum thread called “The Waving Grains of Sand”, for

    Every part of a hologram contains the whole,
    The whole universe contained within a
    Grain of sand, all eternity within a moment,
    The universe rumbling when an electron vibrates.


    Another missed hint of our 3D projection had been that the entropy of black holes depends on the surface area of its event horizon, not on its volume. Could something like the rippled CMBR microwaves be that esoteric radiant interference pattern? Yes, indeed.
  • An Estimate for no ‘God’
    The evolutionary program will eventually run its course,Gnomon

    Time to take more control…

    Just about then, the moth-eaten walkway began its collapse, and all the cell-phoners quickly warned Nobody, for they could see the whole scene unfolding before their eyes knew about it.

    “Run!” they all said in unison, and with text messages, as well. “Run for your life. Get out of there. The bridge…” All contact was lost, for Nobody’s cell phone roaming charges had become astronomical and overdue, causing his account to be canceled.

    There was now nothing but nothing under Nobody’s feet, an impossibility, of course, for nothing can’t exist, but it was there, never the less; however, Nobody didn’t begin to fall right away, as in cartoons when no one falls until they realize through consciousness that there is nothing holding them up, and so he gained a precious second and leapt, just in time, back onto the falling bridge, having had the presence of mind during that split second of warning to attach a piece of tin foil to the antenna, a last ditch attempt to help humanity progress beyond TV sitcoms, Lindsey Lohan, Donald Trump, and Paris Hilton.

    He moved quickly and soon accelerated to the speed of light, which was a lot faster back then, on the bridge that was literally (or virtually) crumbling as he ran across it.

    No one knew where Nobody was or if he did nothing or didn’t do nothing. Concern set in. Worry followed. Despair appeared. Woe rang the doorbell. Grimness sat on the front steps. A bill collector drove up.

    Rascal saddened, but kept Googling to keep his mind busy, while Graybeard stopped ogling the virgin super clusters of Virgo with both of his naked eyes, although noting, “chaste makes waste”, keeping one eye open, and even put off the opening off a beer. Fredrick, getting all teary eyed, tried to remember the good times with Nobody. Well, that was easy; they were all good times. RascalPuff checked all of his copyrights. “Darn, they’re still there. Why is there no sign of Nobody and why is Nobody not home, and what is the meaning of what I am saying? Or not.”

    Well, although we are all supposed to know “everything”, or at least the theory of, we might as well just ask our teen-age offspring, for they know it all.

    Michael even left his lounge chair and put down his laptop. Austin, although silently alarmed, fed french fries to a thousand seagulls, his step-kids laughing and taking a video of it… until he ran towards the kids, throwing more fries to lead the flapping flock onward toward them. He thought that Nobody might never make it, and began preparing a remembrance:

    The Possibility of Being

    This is the creature there has never been.
    They never knew it, and yet, none the less,
    They loved the way it moved, its suppleness,
    Its neck, its very gaze, mild and serene.

    Not there, because they loved it,
    It behaved as though it were.
    They always left some space.

    And in that clear unpeopled space they saved
    It lightly reared its head,
    With scarce a trace of not being there.

    They fed it, not with corn,
    But only with the possibility of being.
    And that was able to confer such strength,
    Its brow put forth a horn. One horn.
    Whitely it stole up to a maid —
    To be within the silver mirror and in her.

    (from Sonnets To Orpheus Second Part,
    R. M. Rilke 1923)


    IN HONOR OF NOBODY,

    Who can under-stand the universe,
    Not even needing a place to stand,
    That is nowhere and everywhere,
    A wizard creating something of nothing,
    Whose imagination reaches the edge
    Of forever, beyond, and before.



    The Edge of the Universe

    Existence extends its electromagnetic preach
    As far as its atomic influences can reach;
    Beyond all of that there is nothing there
    But the naught of very thin ‘air’. (nothing)



    Profpat, sidelined by so many recent TOE readings and contributions, had gotten back on his feet by missing two car payments. His career now in ruins, he switched to archeology.

    MJA said, “Nobody was the most equal man I ever knew.”

    Lloyd pondered the linguistics of “Time flies like a bird and fruit flies like a banana”.

    Steven Wright said, “I have an existential map. It has ‘You are here’ written all over it.”

    Meat Loaf sang “Some days it don’t come easy… and these are the days that never end… and some nights are breathing fire… and some night are nothing I felt or seen before… or will again… no one else can save you now but you…”

    Baden finally asked for one minute of silence on ThePhilosophy Forum.

    The Procession of the Constituents of Reality

    Sad Yesteryear, Forever, and Everywhere,
    They all came, to weep for Nobody Nowhere,
    With Why and How, Then, Now, When, & What and Where,
    Led but by their tears and sorrow. Your posts zing
    With things that ‘none’ can bring: Everything.


    More time passed, as the minutes went by like slugs and snails slowed down by older slugs and snails in their way, like when we get stuck walking behind old people in Florida.
  • An Estimate for no ‘God’
    G_d had to create a space in which to allow matter to exist, so It inhaled. This is called the tsimtsum, G_d's contraction or limitation, or even an internal exile. This contraction was catastrophic, there was a shattering of divine vessels of light and for bits of evil were trapped in the material world.uncanni





    A Massive Big Bang explosion hardly seems to be a good way of intelligently designing a universe, but rather appears as if something really got out of hand.

    Perhaps some opposite quantum fields, although having a great lightness of being nevertheless piled up so much that they reached the limit of density, infinite density not being possible, and then blew all to hell, with elementary particles as centers of oscillation.

    The wave lengths make for extension into dimension; the wave frequencies make for energy; the opposite wave amplitudes made for positive and negative charge defining matter from antimatter; the waves becoming protons or quarks; the wave envelopes becoming electrons…

    Or Somebody spilled something or had an accident or inhaled too much.

    Segno (Sign) # 0

    “There’s the aether”, replied the other, apace,
    “The 5th state, one that pervades all of space,
    Yet there are no signposts of it up ahead,
    Or anywhere, since it’s of every stead.

    “We regard it as the stuff of which Gods are made,
    That lively spirit of elixir that their nature bade,
    For, just as all mortal creatures inhale the air,
    So do immortal and divine natures inhale the aether.”

    “The intimation is the mark of their manifestation,
    A demonstration and a token of the evidencention—
    The aetheric and Heavenly sign of things to come,
    Both the portent of the miracle and its omen.

    “It is of the warning and the notice let,
    Presaging both the promise and the threat.
    Of this sign the aether follows, the gesture beckons;
    ‘Tis the signal, the wave and gesticulation reckoned.

    “We can read the writing in the sky, the marquee,
    Daubed with symbols marking the cipher free,
    With characters, figures, and hieroglyphs of time,
    The ideogram of the rune, the emblem of the Divine.”





    Yet only a hair (like an Alef) divides the false from the true…

    Segno (Sign) # 1

    “There is the ‘vacuum’”, replied the other,
    “A base state, one pervading all of space,
    There being no signposts within it,
    Or anywhere, since it moves in no direction.

    “We must regard it the stuff of which things are made;
    For just as all living creatures inhale the air,
    So do all the real natures inhale the vacuum.”

    “This intimation is the mark of manifestation,
    A demonstration that’s the token of the evidence;
    The aetheric and heavenly sign of things to become,
    Both the portent and the omen of so much possibility.

    “It is both the warning and the present notice,
    Presaging both the promise and the threat.

    “Aft this sign, that the vacuum ‘indirects’,
    Then the real gestures ever beckon;
    They of an unsignal faint,
    The wave and gesticulation of you.

    “We read the noise of the quantum theater—no marquee;
    All is daubed without symbols, to mark no cipher, bare,
    No letters, characters, figures, or hieroglyphs there,
    No ideogram of the rune of order,
    No emblem of the Divine.”

    end-to-end without even skipping partsgod must be atheist

    Nobody Nowhere is well on his way to repairing God's universe.

    A test of good reading or speed reading?

    And did anyone watch the 'Programming the Universe' video?

    Some 'fortunate' accidents of nature to support either a design or a multiverse:

  • Sartre's proof of universal being
    "Modern thought has realised considerable progress by reducing the existent to the series of appearances which manifest it."NilsArnold

    This is saying that appearances in the mind are all that we ever 'see'.
  • An Estimate for no ‘God’
    Humans' endless task is tikkun olam--repair of the world.uncanni

    Well, truth is more of a stranger in this story than fiction, so Nobody was well on his way to the early days of oblivion…

    “How’s it going,” asked Rascal of Nobody.

    “It’s raining,” answered Nobody.

    “Hardly?” inquired Puff, the better side of the plurality of he and himself.

    “It’s hardly raining hardly,” answered Nobody.

    “What does that mean exactly?” asked Rascal, along with many others.

    “Never mind,” said Nobody. “I have an umbrella!”

    Austin piped in that the English language was becoming slightly affected, via the interruptions in past, but encouraged that the journey go on, and so it continued as it progressed and went on.

    “By the way, what’s the antecedent of ‘it’ in “It’s raining?” posted WiseGuy, thinking he had posed quite a tough question.

    “Nothing,” said Nobody, “in the form of reverse gravity and forward light, the ultimate antecedent, of our time dilation called reality. I’m getting damp.”

    Rascal added that “A little rain never hurt Nobody,” a new and original saying that suddenly appeared in the book of the 2501 greatest sayings ever.

    “I hope the rain keeps up,” said Nobody.

    “Why?” inquired Profpat.

    “So then it won’t come down!”

    “How’s it going, Nobody?” asked Rascal again, figuring that Nobody’s watch was fast from relativity and that some hours had passed.

    Nobody replied, “I heard that the universe was a free lunch, so I’m having it in a restaurant on an asteroid.”

    “How is it?”

    “The food is great, but there’s no atmosphere.”

    Now, there’s always someone who interrupts threads with off the wall stuff, so ChickenMan tried to catch Rascal unawares with “Why did the chicken fly across the road?” and “Did the egg cross into God’s universe before the chicken?”

    Rascal, taking all this in stride during a lull, replied, “As allowed by Einstein’s relativity, the road moved to the other side of the chicken, then, the chicken didn’t land so much as the road rose to meet the chicken, as it extended in 4D, much like the baseball field rises to meet the pop up, since All is expanding. Furthermore, chickens can’t fly! Also, the chicken came first, for I can’t really picture ‘God’ sitting on an egg to hatch it. Now, we’re trying to better tune in the universal DNA here, so no more chicken shit posts please!”

    “Hold it,” warned Graybeard. “Some critical atoms must have been disturbed by Nobody’s journey. Now the “Ace”, a new name for the formerly bottommost playing card, the lowly “one”, is now higher than the King in many kinds of card games; this is a sacrilege and a travesty! Wait until London hears about this.”

    Mkirkpatrick somehow got into the conference call and said, “Just heard, but relax. The All is the One; the “A” on the card really stands for “All”, for this is what gave rise to the monarchy. And of course the one is the One.”

    “It’s okay,” Fredrick said calmly, being an expert on numbers and on playing them, “the play and strategy of all affected card games has not been altered in any way. Keep on going, Nobody.”

    While some old times passed, Graybeard stood around looking at the man in the moon and watching the grass grow. Fredrick checked his watch to see if he was wearing it and then counted to five on his left hand. Fine. On the other hand, he still had five fingers, so, all was still going well in the good old days. Profpat sharpened his pencil until it got down to the eraser.

    Rascal interjected, “Some sort of high stakes poker mania called “Texas Hold ‘em” has broken out in some countries. Googling now. It’s even replacing baseball on many TV channels!”

    “It’s okay,” reassured Fredrick, “No harm done. We’ll pass it off as another fad.”

    Nobody was heading billions of years into the past, having left the asteroid before he got a polaroid from sitting on it too long, and was passing many frolicking Dodo birds, along with the beginnings of such ancient notions as alchemy and astrology. (Hey, why are hemorrhoids not called asteroids?)



    A rickety old rope bridge of rotting planks finally led Nobody past many antiquities such as one-cent stamps and on to the control panel of the ancient broadcasting station of CBS—the Cosmic Broadcast Station.

    “Be careful,” advised Profpat. “Be so very delicate with any adjustments. Remember, on Earth, how the tiniest minute adjustment of a shower knob of even a millionth of an inch causes the shower water to become totally steaming hot! No plumber in the universe has ever been able to resolve this problem. It has something to do with quarks, quicks, and quacks.”

    “Don’t worry,” answered Nobody. “I’ll be gentle; I’ll just breathe on it slightly. We want clarity in the universe’s DNA and ours, as in improving the reception of a TV set, not unproving it back into the stone age of three channels, all of them baseball games, and the weather, with snow and static on the others. I’ll do my best, come hell or hot water.”

    Nobody sprayed a few atoms toward the antenna and waited. His data/video link soon improved but then overloaded from the high transfer speed and burned out. Nobody’s cell phone soon rang, but it was only a solicitor trying to sell him some time-share condos; however, Graybeard finally got through and said “Great, the stars are becoming clearer and I can even see some galaxies with the naked eye, but take it slow; we don’t want to upset the balance of nature by making it too bright at night. It’s good to tighten a screw, but if we tighten it too much and we’re screwed.

    “Wait, hold it! I can see Venus, the goddess of love and passion all too well. Yikes, I didn’t know she was that old! Plus, I now have x-ray vision and can see into all the apartments, but the worst thing is that I can hear everything they are saying. Some things should be obscene and not heard! Also, I’m getting something called ‘cartoons’ on my TV set, and they’re really weird, very unreal looking and everyone in them is doing silly things.”

    Nobody took out a hand held ‘vacuum’ cleaner and brought a few atoms back in as a fine adjustment.

    “Good,” cheered Graybeard, “that’s a good balance. Try something a little higher up and let’s see what happens. I am reading some fluctuations out of kilter around there.”

    Notions of up and down were useless in space, so Nobody picked a direction at random.

    “No,” said Graybeard. “Not that way; use your other ‘up’.”

    “Okay, I’m switching. Back in kilter?”

    Graybeard answered, “I don’t know; I’m seeing another goddess.”

    Suddenly, the Chicago Cubs, which had finally made it to the World Series of baseball, were swept in four straight games, while the Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, and other unbelievables in attendance looked on in horror.

    Then Michael Jordan gave up basketball for baseball and then switched back to basketball again. Global warming picked up and then an ice age began. Jesus, born a Christian, became Jewish, then converted back again. Hell froze over and then thawed out. The same with the River of Forgetfulness; everyone was walking on water for a while and running like Hell from Hades.

    Profpat warned “Watch that shower knob, Nobody; the River Styx just boiled away and a bunch of dead people drowned after many more escaped!”

    “Where are they going?” inquired Nobody.

    Profpat replied, “They don’t know; they say they have CRS disease.”

    “What’s CRS stand for?”

    “Can’t Remember Shit.”

    “OK guys. A little upper, Nobody” requested Graybeard. “That other direction was a downer.”

    Nobody reached up and out, but the bridge creaked and groaned, causing Nobody to slip a bit as a rope frayed, and all the TOE researchers feared that his adjustment time was now quite limited.

    Meanwhile, Barry Bonds had broken the home run record, but, of course, steroids would be blamed for it. Mount Rushmore had briefly turned into Presidents Nixon, Ford, Carter, and Reagan, but just as soon returned back. However, the Boston Red Sox still won a World Series for the first time in 100 years.

    Also, it turned out that someone named Yogi Berra had said many sayings that seemed to make sense, but really didn’t, like “That restaurant is so crowded that no one goes there anymore”, “It gets dark early out here”, “If people don’t want to come out to the ball park, nobody’s going to stop them”, “It’s deja vu all over again”, “I didn’t really say all of the things I said”, and many more unsayings.

    Silly signs appeared on highways, like “Road Works” (it doesn’t work well during construction), and “Speed Zone” (meaning slow down). Something called rap music had become ever-present, as well as a new word, “oxymoron”, which was probably a related event. A funny thing happened to President Clinton, but he wasn’t impeached for it. He neither inhales nor does he have sex.

    “This one may be hard to explain,” lamented Fredrick, “but we’ll chalk it up to human nature.”

    Nobody did some fiddling of some knobs that he wasn’t supposed to touch, twiddling “More of This-ness”, and, as a result some people on Krypton started to make every shot in basketball games, even from 50 miles away, being really IN THE ZONE, plus doing many other superhuman things. All the TOE viewers from Earth were cheering this, but Fredrick warned them that total perfection might take all the fun out of life.

    “Better hold off,” Graybeard suggested.

    Nobody dialed the knobs back a little.

    RascalPuff interjected, “Some people are now reporting that they can fly like superman in some new event called ‘sleeping hallucinations’ or ‘night dreams’.”

    Also, zeroes began to look like the alphabetic letter ‘oh’, causing much confusion, along with ‘one’ looking like ‘el’, and some words began to have the same sound, as called a ‘homonym’ but not a ‘homonim’, and some with similar meanings; as called a ‘synonym’, although it had none itself, and some words now had multiple meanings. And how come ‘monosyllabic’ wasn’t? Nor was ‘phonetic’ spelled the way it sounded. And why was ‘abbreviation’ such a long word without any? Also, ‘love’ was reduced to having only the two good rhymes of ‘dove’ and ‘above’, which soon became overused and stale, frustrating many poets and their readers.

    Austin reported that a part of Hawaii had sprung up in Wildwood, NJ, named ‘Sunset Bay’ and that it had had big fat singers, torches, palm trees, waterfalls, tropical flowers, a half-ship at the end of a pier that served as a bar, good food (ordering raw oysters well done), although it consisted of only waves and fields (lucky that his brain turned the noumena into phenomena), and sand all around as a floor. Also, he said that many more ‘o’s had appeared in the word ‘Goo…ooogle’.

    Fredrick suggested that the sleeping visions were harmless and probably helped us in some way, that homonyms gave poets even more rhymes, that synonyms and words with multiple meanings would enrich the language, that zeroes could have a slash added through them for differentiation, that typewriters were obsolete, that we could get used to the odd words, perhaps some day getting even with them, that the word ‘of’ now rhymed with ‘love’, that ‘Hawaii in New Jersey’ would be seen as a planned tourist attraction, and that Google’s extra “o’s” would probably get used in a marketing ploy as denoting the internet page ranges of interest.
  • An Estimate for no ‘God’
    My question is: does Schamesh exist?frank



    Earth could not answer; nor the Seas that mourn
    In flowing Purple, of their Lord Forlorn;
    Nor rolling Heaven, with all his Signs reveal’d
    And hidden by the sleeve of Night and Morn.

    — FitzOmar
  • An Estimate for no ‘God’
    But if all things are possible, given unlimited time & space, then G*D could make room internally, so to speak, for a finite bubble universe that is free to start from nothing (Singularity) and develop into something (Seity).Gnomon

    In the Experiment, Practice makes Perfect… Maybe in the next Big Bubble…

    New Baby, New Big Bang.uncanni

    The Eternal Return

    Behind the Veil, being that which e’er thrives,
    The Eternal IS has ever been alive,
    For that which hath no onset cannot die,
    Nor a point from which to impart a Why.

    Some time it needed to learn Everything for,
    And now well knows how these bubbles to pour,
    Of existence, in some like universe,
    As those that wrote your poem and mine, every verse.

    So, as thus, thou lives on yester’s credit line
    In nowhere’s midst, now in this life of thine,
    As of its bowl your cup of brew was mixed
    Into the state of being that’s called “mine”.

    Yet worry you that this Cosmos is the last,
    That the likes of us will become the past,
    Space wondering whither whence we went
    After the last of us her life has spent?

    The Eternal Saki has thus formed
    Trillions of baubles like ours, and will form,
    Forevermore—the comings and passings
    Of which it ever emits to immerse
    Of those universal bubbles blown and burst.

    So fear not that a debit close your
    Account and mine, knowing the like no more;
    The Eternal Cycle from its pot has pour’d
    Zillions of bubbles like ours, and will pour.

    When You and I behind the cloak are past
    But the long while the next universe shall last,
    Which of one’s approach and departure the All grasps
    As might the sea’s self heed a pebble cast.
  • The Problem of Existence
    A spacetime, then, is a kind of 4-dimensional geometrical object that exists timelessly and this object has a certain structure that constitutes objects in spacetime and has regularities that we know as laws of physics.litewave

    I've been trying resolve presentism versus eternalism without complete success, but the indication of permanence is a great clue for eternalism and the relativity of simultaneity is a downfall to presentism.

    The experience of memories and anticipations together with the overall experience of the self that contains them seems to constitute the experience of the passage of time.litewave

    Memory’s ideas recall the last heard tone;
    Sensation savors what is presently known;
    Imagination anticipates coming sounds;
    The delight is such that none could produce alone.
  • The Problem of Existence
    You may agree that anything that exists must be identical to itself and still disagree that anything that is identical to itself exists.litewave

    Yes, for while there isn't anything as temporary that is identical to itself over time, there needs to be a Permanence to make the events possible.

    I have to go to lunch.
  • An Estimate for no ‘God’
    The mutant entities that don't meet the criteria of fitness for G*D's purpose are abandoned (extinction).Gnomon

    'God' seems to be restricted to using evolution by natural selection and the laws of nature.

    Inspired by Bill Bryson:

    MASTODONS AND EXTINCTIONS

    In the late 1700’s, Cuvier could take heaps of bones
    And whip them into shapely forms not in the stones.
    After describing and naming the fossil elephant the mastodon,
    He put forward for the first time a theory on extinction.

    He said that from time to time there were global catastrophes
    In which some groups of creatures “became history”.
    This raised uncomfortable implications at the time,
    For why would God create and destroy eithout reason or rhyme?

    This suggested an unaccountable casualness by someone unseeing
    And greatly troubled the belief in The Great Chain of Being,
    Which held that the world was carefully ordered for us—
    And that every living thing thus had a place and purpose.

    Meanwhile, William Smith noted a correlation in fossils
    In rocks to find the relative rock ages that were possible.
    At every change in rock strata, certain fossils vanished,
    While in others they carried on into subsequent levels.

    Now it was seen that God
    Had wiped out creatures extinct
    Not only occasionally but repeatedly—
    Which made us think Him not only careless
    But having an outright hostile distinction.

    There had been more than
    The Biblical Noachian deluge extinction.


    WAY WAY BACK

    In 1909, in British Columbia, near the town of Field,
    Walcott and wife were riding horses
    Along a mountain trail, beneath the Burgess Ridge
    When his wife’s horse slipped a stone,
    Tipping and turning over a slab of shale.

    He got down and looked;
    There were fossil crustaceans unknown.

    The next summer he climbed up the mountain’s side,
    Having traced the presumed route of the rock’s slide,
    And there he found a shale outcrop as long as a block,
    Imprinted with Earth’s ancient and tiny livestock.

    ‘Twas from the dawn
    Of life’s great and complex profusion
    From so very long ago—
    It was the famous Cambrian explosion.
  • An Estimate for no ‘God’
    Butter flies like a banana, so Nobody Nowhere quickly prepared to step into the past, through the ‘Guardian of Forever’, a means of getting closer to the workings of the Cosmic Background Radiation (CMBR), in order to fine tune it at the very source.

    This was not a total attempt to revise human history, per say, for that mess was but a fairly typical happening that had way too much dumbness in it to be salvageable. The whims of fate would only create new fools, for wild and uncontrolled emotions had proved to be all that there was to say about all the miseries and follies that had been sadly written into the human chronicle.

    Yet, there was always a danger of even more negatively affecting the past, and so Nobody Nowhere wore a light-bending suit that made him invisible, and furthermore contained most of his emanations. This would minimize most of his effects on the past and on the future that arose through interaction with the past, even that eventually magnifying of merely being seen with name brand clothes on.

    The microwave background radiation was the source interference pattern of the Holograph in which our reality exists. Behind it, a light radiance passed through a very complex matrix looking somewhat like DNA.

    Graybeard, RascalPuff, Profpat, Fredrick, and others were in contact with Nobody through a video phone that was hooked up to the Hubble telescope that was in turn trained on the display screen of the ‘Guardian of Forever’.

    Austin was on a secondary line from New Jersey while surfing on the ethereal waves, though sometimes he was merely scraping along on the particulate matter of the beach. Crowds logged onto ThePhilosophyForum, ready to view the latest posts from everywhere and nowhere.

    Nobody, knowing very well that time was Nature’s way of keeping everything from happening at once, took one small step for man into the past and found himself back standing right back in front of the ‘Guardian’ again, and so he took a giant leap for mankind.

    Nobody stood in noplace during nowhen in the middle of nowhere, although space really has no center, as he navigated solely by the landmarks of his imagination towards the control panel of the CMBR antenna. He had butterflies in his stomach and flew like a bee.

    It was like taking the chance of betting the entire company on either red or black in roulette, but more like Russian roulette in that really bad things could happen; however, the human race was quite desperate for clearer thinking, having really had enough of pettiness and silliness. Not to mention (which I will) that the angels of insight didn’t appear as often anymore, and that many humans even dozed off while good fortune passed right on by, nor had they recognized Lady Luck except in lotteries. Furthermore, as Flip Wilson once said, “The cost of living is going up and the chance of living is going down”. In addition, many were living a TV sitcom life. True, genius has its limits, but stupidity… (unknown author)

    Many people even wasted no time reading forum posts. Even more said that some things, like ESP, had to be believed to be seen. Others, the types who quickly became bored on rainy Sunday afternoons, invented gods to grant them eternal immortality. Even worse, after all was said and done, more was always said than was done. Signs in subways said, “There is no gravity. The earth sucks.” Everyone was only looking out for #1, not realizing that this often caused them to step in #2.

    And Ghandi, when asked what he thought of Western civilization, said, “I think it would be a good idea.” And lots of people said “eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow we diet, since the waist was a terrible thing to mind.” Yes, there were more horse’s asses than horses. Some even put Horace before Descartes (Donald O. Rickter).
  • An Estimate for no ‘God’
    " Interference patterns of virtual reality" are ideological misconceptions, mystfications of authentic reality. They consist of consumerism, global capitalism, corporate sodom-and-gomorrahism, post-imperialism, etc.uncanni

    We will soon be heading back in time to better tune the Cosmic DNA antenna. It's do or die!!!
  • An Estimate for no ‘God’
    I want to go!!!!!!!uncanni

    We need you; look for a flying camel on your lawn. Don't mention this at your job. Many governments and others are after our TOE information; our refuge is tenuous; eventually, we're going to have to join up with a decent and suitable paramilitary organization of martial artists.
  • An Estimate for no ‘God’
    Multiverse would wander blindly forever before stumbling on the magic formula for the initial conditions plus matter, energy, life & mind that we find in our world.Gnomon

    It has all the time in the World, and more, ha, ha.

    When you have plenty of time, I have an explanation for how an eternal Whole can have parts of the system.Gnomon

    I have the time in the Cosmos since I'm retired.

    the light at the end of the teleological tunneluncanni

    Hope it's not a White Hole coming at us!

    Our world, according to quantum physics, is essentially mathematical information, and the permutations of that cosmic code (analogous to DNA) have resulted, not just in quantitative physical things, but qualitative metaphysical forms of Life, Mind, and Love.Gnomon

    This is one of the TOEs being developed at our research center in Timbuktu (we'll send a camel for you) and it has a repair attempt going forth, too, since the universe is not doing so well:

    Butterflies On the Edge of Forever

    The Great Extinguisher Problem

    Our planet is very good at promoting life,
    But it is much better at extinguishing it.
    Of the billions upon billions of living things,
    99.99% are no longer around here living.


    The human race had been degenerating, for the CMBR antenna that broadcasts our universal reality show had long been out of whack, as had been discovered in ThePhilosophyForum as part of the true Theory of Everything.

    So, some funding was obtained from a top-secret government organization, and a poll was held. Member Nobody Nowhere was chosen as the “no one” most likely to succeed in whacking the transmitter back into adjustment, for he could operate with scarce a trace of not being there.

    Background:
    The corrupted DNA of the Universe:

    No one yet fully understands the irreducible complexity of the DNA double helix, which is the template for all carbon based life. It is so complex that the slightest change along the myriad of interrelated ladder of events causes the total collapse of the organism. DNA is made of four nucleotides arranged in such a way that a large number of perfectly cascading events form a living thinking life form.

    Now, what about the DNA at the universal level?

    *** TOP SECRET *** EYES ONLY *** TOP SECRET ***

    Likewise, a much more complex universal DNA template is the common thread of a much greater type of exponentially encrypted digital code of Everything which forms our entire universe, generating it in a virtual holographic way, that is:

    The Infinite radiates through a DNA matrix,
    Using Information or Energy to create
    The Cosmic Microwave antenna, which broadcasts
    Interference patterns of virtual reality.


    The problem was that the celestial music of the spheres had fallen out of tune.
  • An Estimate for no ‘God’
    I don't know for sure that my hypothetical First Cause exists.Gnomon

    The Eternal/Timeless/Permanent First Cause as Capability/Possibility/Potential/Energy has to be mandatory, given no infinite regress, that there is something, and that 'Nothing' hasn't anything to it for anything to come out of 'it'. Spontaneous is still available but there still needs to be the capability for it.

    The Permanent First Cause has no direction able to be put into it, so it really can't know anything. Its supposed nebluous nature, then, being not anything in particular is a superposition of all possible paths, as like towards a multiverse, which seems to be the cleanest solution, not requiring an intelligence that really shouldn't be there since that violates the fundamental art by having parts in a system.

    As it took 13 billion years for life to form, the universe seems to be just plodding along slowly and naturally.
  • An Estimate for no ‘God’
    mind, soul and spirit,Gnomon

    Life’s entities embrace one another:
    Cell, organism, species, and biotope.

    Life seems inspired, although not optimal;
    All meaning cannot all be discovered
    By observation, but by participation.

    A living creature is more like a poem,
    Revealing its further dimensions and
    Expressing new properties/emergences
    At every level of its organization:
    Letter, word, phrase, sentence and [uni]verse.

    In this lost haunt, out on the Orion arm
    Of the Milky Way—as safe from the core’s harm;
    The philosophers gather in the forum,
    As new Sherlocks unweaving the Cosmic yarn.

    We search for the start of the Universe,
    The End, the Before, the After, the Kinds,
    The Measures, and All That Lies Between—
    The music of the Spheres’ Magnificat.

    We follow every single avenue,
    Whether it’s brightly lit or a dark alley,
    Exploring one-ways, no-ways, and dead-ends,
    Until cornered where the Truth is hiding.

    Since we all became of this universe,
    Should we not ask who we are, whence we came?
    Insight clefts night’s skirt with its radiance—
    The Theory of Everything shines through!

    Forum Eyes Only—Classified:
    We’re hiding out in Timbuktu, Mali,
    Africa, for we’re close to the Secret
    And must protect it from evil doers.

    From the hourglass of time, the desert’s grains
    Ever blow, grind, and blast the camel trains
    Loaded with opium, pot, and red wine,
    These being the potions to jog our brains.

    A snatch of poem the camel-driver sings,
    And paints with sun-beams what his vision brings—
    Of the waving veils adorning the tent,
    Of the pipe-dreams floating up in smoke rings…

    Which fumes are as sighs sent to Heaven far,
    For consideration, from his altar
    On this bubbled puff of a worldly sphere,
    In case Destiny wishes to shake its jar.

    Ramadan’s now past, and Shawwál comes back,
    So feast, song, and pleasure no more we lack;
    Now porters with their loads stand back to back,
    ‘Here comes the camel with his precious pack.’

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  • An Estimate for no ‘God’
    Isn't that energy?uncanni

  • Atheism is untenable in the 21st Century
    Time is eternity3017amen

    Time is of the temporary transmutations of the permanent timeless eternal.
  • Atheism is untenable in the 21st Century
    Time is existence3017amen

    Existence is temporary, as changing in time; the timeless is permanent.
  • Atheism is untenable in the 21st Century
    Consider falling objects, we avoid them through our cognitive/perceptive abilities.3017amen

    And those evolved abilities include knowledge of gravity and math or else we'd get clunked.

    Tick tock time continues:

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