My point was that we don’t have to agree on what is sinful to agree that if we sin then there must a punishment; and from there my argument begins. — Bob Ross
a) information representation - the complexity of bits and tidbits that are describing the contents — Ulthien
So anyway, the claim now from you is, if physicalism is true then knowing everything about the physical arrangement of the book should allow you to understand the meaning of the book, even if you don't understand the language it was written in.
I just don't think that follows. — flannel jesus
This one is rather trivial. Of course someone with that knowledge could in principle learn anything about the book someone who physically had the book could. They'd have to do more work than someone who just had the book in front of them, but... so? — flannel jesus
You seem to be digressing into books from the original topic conscious mind. But think again. If there was nothing in the world, i.e. no paper, no ink, no humans, no physical objects whatsoever (imagine a place like Mars - a field with just rocks and hills), can a story of Sherlock Holmes exist? Whatever idea or story it might be, it needs to be in the form of physical media, DVD or ebook or physical book for it to exist. With no physical objects to contain ideas or books or music, nothing can exist. — Corvus
In that sense, they are all some form of physical objects. Ideas, minds and consciousness or whatever abstract objects you might be thinking, talking or imagining, they are in some form of physical existence - they need to be read, spoken or played by the physical beings and instruments. They might be different category of physical objects which are invisible, odourless and silent. But they are all some form of physical existence in nature and origin. — Corvus
There is no such a thing called pain. You have your biological body which feels the sensation of pain when hit by some hard object. You call it "pain" when no such thing exists in the whole universe. It is just the state of your body cells with neurons which sent some electrical signals into your brain, and from your education and upbringing and customs, habits and cultural influence, you scream "ouch", and utter the sentence "I have pain." or "It is bloody painful." — Corvus
No we don't need to talk about it: all you need to concede is that there are some legitimate sins; then God would have to incarnate himself through hypostatic union to absolve those sins. We don't need to agree on specifically what is sinful. — Bob Ross
When you open your hard drive, and look into all the parts inside the drive, you will see nothing which even remotely resembles the data you stored in it. You will see some electronic parts, capacitors, motors, transistors, chips and connectors on the magnetic platter. — Corvus
Yes, I suppose that's a possible response, although I Peter 4 suggests that Christ suffered. — Count Timothy von Icarus
I was talking about legitimate debt. Are you suggesting that the idea of sin is illegitimate? — Bob Ross
Christ is tortured and executed by men through their free choices. He didn't crucify or scourge himself after all. — Count Timothy von Icarus
Imagine that you knew someone was in debt to you so much money that they never could pay it back. You could absolve them of the debt with the snap of your fingers, but you would be being unjust: they deserve to pay that back and you deserve that money, but you are forgoing it to allow someone to be in a condition that they do not deserve out of some motive (perhaps love or kindness). In this case, you would be having mercy on them, but at the expense of being just. — Bob Ross
Why are brains conscious but hearts and livers aren't?
— RogueAI
Good point, but a daft question. It is like asking why tables and chairs don't work as phones or computers? They are not designed / made to do those jobs. — Corvus
Why are only some brain processes associated with consciousness?
— RogueAI
This sounds like a question for the biologist and neurologist. — Corvus
If the mind is identical to the brain, and I'm picturing a purple flower in my mind's eye, wouldn't that entail there's a purple flower in my brain?
— RogueAI
A purple flower and an image or representation of the purple flower is not the same existence. — Corvus
If minds are physical, then by studying someone's brain, I should be able to gain access to the contents of their mind, right?
— RogueAI
Not all physical objects are replaceable and transparent to our understanding. Many physical objects such as radio waves, atoms, cells and the black holes, space ... etc are not things that we can fully understand what they are. Many of them are also presupposed and imagined objects from the effects or events in the world.
We can read the radio waves on the frequency counter, we still don't know what they are. We know how to generate, transmit and receive the radio waves, but we don't see or hear them direct. We only know the audio data they carry in them, but the actual existence of the waves are unknown.
Likewise, we don't know how our brain works as they do, and brain is not replaceable. Only thing we know is that conscious mind cannot exist without working brain. Hence it is very likely physical state in its nature. There is no such thing as conscious mind as mental existence. — Corvus
I am even thinking that mind could be physical in its nature, i.e. mind is not different existence from our bodies. Because mind can only exist when body exists as living agent. Hence body is the precondition of mind, and mind is actually a part of body. — Corvus
I think both sides, in any war, think they are fighting "the good fight". — Pieter R van Wyk
Life has value, but predation is against that value. Predation involves prioritising the life of the predator over the life of the prey. This is selfish. This is evil. — Truth Seeker
If that machine can experience qualia, why not a future machine of equal or greater complexity? — Jacques
We are talking about millions if not billions of people in some cases. What happens if they are forced to move because of the basic necessity of avoiding to die in the heatwaves or general heat in their home nation? — Christoffer
That's true. But, what else can and side we do? — Patterner
I can't think of a different way that we should act. If it does not continue to behave tomorrow the way it is today, how could we guess in which ways it will be different? which type of disaster should we plan for? Some of which, such as the sudden disappearance of the strong nuclear force, could not possibly be prepared for anyway. So we may as well all act like it's a low probability event. — Patterner
If it was a high probability event then you wouldn't be here! — Apustimelogist
If it makes it easier I can rephrase the question… why does the universe behave in an orderly way ? For example, the motion of the planets around the sun? This of course is due to the law of gravity governing such motions but without calling it a law why should this be the case … why don’t the planets for example just stand still in fixed location in space ? — kindred
Ok might be hyperbolic but it’s making it much harder to raise lawsuits against executive orders. A dissenting opinion said:
Today’s ruling allows the Executive to deny people rights that the Founders plainly wrote into our Constitution, so long as those individuals have not found a lawyer or asked a court in a particular manner to have their rights protected,” Jackson’s dissent states. “This perverse burden shifting cannot coexist with the rule of law. In essence, the Court has now shoved lower court judges out of the way in cases where executive action is challenged, and has gifted the Executive with the prerogative of sometimes disregarding the law.”
Jackson added ominously, the ruling was an “existential threat to the rule of law”.
And that’s from one of the dissenting judges, not a columnist. — Wayfarer
Think about it, just for a while.
Assume your country would be striken with missiles for 12 days. Over two hundred civilians would have been killed. Then the attackers would want to bribe you with third party investment.
How eager would you to start negotiations with your attackers? How much would you trust them? — ssu
Obama at least had a plan. Trump doesn't have any plan just to wobble into the next crisis that is going to erupt and try to take center stage. — ssu
We live in a world of mentation and the physical is simply how consciousness appears when viewed from a certain perspective. (Kastrup) — Tom Storm
Welcome to the forum. Philosophy is not really equipped to solve the problems you’ve identified. — T Clark
Yet notice the crucial difference to the Middle East. Germans don't give a fuck that Alsace-Lorraine belongs to France now. And both French and Germans of today would be surprised just how some place like Alsace-Lorraine stirred up fervent jingoism in both countries in the past. — ssu
In truth, it isn't. If we mean by nations rising that they become prosperous. — ssu
Yes, I get it. What I can't handle is someone (@BitconnectCarlos) suggesting that Israel has been nothing but a victim in all this. That's not true. — frank