:fire: ... ecstatic immanence.Could caring instead, or also, be the most immanent, most intimate expression of the one who is being religious (or just being)? — Fire Ologist
Yes, fear – conatus as ineluctable striving to overcome – escape from – fear (e.g. mortality ... manifest in burying our dead, etc). H. sapiens' (aka "h. religiosus'")¹ first, oldest, perennial escape plan – the quest for magical/symbolic "immortality" – is what we now call "religion" as such.... it has to be brought to an even more penetrating analysis in order to show the world that religion is the THE profound center of our existence, not this or that religion, but religion in its essence. — Constance
Neither. IMHO, wrong question as I point out (above):In THIS limited situation, what is more moral? — Philosophim
Am I wrong to read this as "there isn't enough time for you/us to wait for AI ..."?Quite simply, there isn't time enough for AI to shake off the shackles of partisan capital. — Vera Mont
:up: :up:This hush money conviction is no big deal.
— Hanover
Is it?
Trump isn't constrained by any moral code. The only constraint on his behavior is the legal code, and then - only if a solid case can be made. Prosecuting Trump for this minor crime reminds me of the prosecution of Al Capone, for tax evasion. — Relativist
A. I believe in a God.A. Theism=Iknowthere's a God;
B. Atheism = I do notknowwhether there's a God;
C. Agnosticism = I cannot know whether there is a God; and
D. Anti-Theism = Iknow there is not a God. — AmadeusD
:ok:I don't see these charges resulting in jail time anyway. — Hanover
The obvious lesson here, just as in the previous 3 civil law suits: DO NOT DEFAME, SEXUAL ASSUALT, DEFRAUD OR MAKE/TAKE UNLAWFUL CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS THAT YOU THEN HAVE TO COVER-UP in a jurisdiction – your hometown! – where you have been very unpopular (as a known bankrupted grifter buffoon & racist bully) for 4-5 decades. Not too effing bright! – and then you (and your "poorly educated" horde of cultists) whine whine whine on about it like most common criminals do. :sweat:A simple change of venue would have been an appropriate fix. How would you go about finding an impartial court and jury? — NOS4A2
Well, my guess (today, 31May24) is that Convicted Felon-1 will be sentenced to 2-4 years for each of the 34 felonies that will run concurrently (so that if only 1 felony survives the appeal process, he will still serve 2-4 years in prison), probably starting in spring 2025. The basis of sentencing will be Convict-1's (a) conspicuous lack of contrition, (b) 10 criminal contempt citations & (c) continuous post-trial attacks on witnesses, jurors, prosecutors et al as well as (d) the scope of the predicate crime (that his co-conspirator Michael Cohen was sentenced to a 3 year prison term by the Feds) that he covered-up in 20i6 & the need to deter him from committing the same 2016 crimes again in 2024.First of all, the chance of Trump spending even a day in prison is zero. — Relativist
True. However, dogmatism is always anathema to 'reflective inquiry' (or dialectics & contemplating aporias) and usually consistent with – follows from – 'faith' (or undecidable (e.g. merely subjective, supernatural) beliefs).Dogmatism can creep in anywhere. — Mikie
In my mind that "little difference" is this: philosophy (logos) begins with questions we do not (yet) know how to answer and proceeds by reasoning towards more probative questions (re: reflective inquiry as a way of life :fire:) whereas religion (mythos) begins with answers we are "commanded" not to question and proceeds by faith in obeying such unquestioned answers (re: surrender as a way of life :pray:).I see little difference between religion and philosophy— both ask very universal, difficult, extra-ordinary questions about existence. — Mikie
1. NYC felony indictment
31Mar23 :up:
"34 counts of Business Documents Fraud Crealing and/or Covering-up Felonies", etc
https://apnews.com/article/trump-indictment-full-document-640043319549?utm_source=homepage&utm_medium=RelatedStories&utm_campaign=position_02 — 180 Proof
:up: :up:By the way, Israel does not represent Jews globally. It doesn't even represent all Jews within its borders. Many are adamantly opposed to Israel's malpractices. — Tzeentch
i.e. ethnonationalist colonizer-settler apartheid regimeJewish nation-state — schopenhauer1
"Purpose" in the context, as I've pointed out previously, seems to me a (sublimated) quest for symbolic/magical immortality (motivated (driven) by the fear of disease dying & death).Purpose ... Perhaps? — Outlander
I.e. if one is a sentient, self-aware mortal.Death is only an issue if one first cares about dying. — Constance
What do you mean by "pure philosophy" and how does "superstition" follow from it?I think it started as pure philosophy, then wandered into superstition and lost its way in organized religion. — Vera Mont
:up:Religion, to me, is about, and rises out of, [ ... ] questions arise that cannot be answered leading to suffering. Many religions thus aim to reconcile this difference by denying it. Thus, ”all is one”, ”experience of self is an illusion” etc. — Jussi Tennilä
I differ with this only in the order of experience/realization: developmentally humans experience death¹, therefore instinctively fear it, long before realizing – those who do explicitly – that the 'I-world duality is irreconcible (or even irreparable)', which compounds the fear (i.e. suffering) that requires relief and succor in degrees of self-consoling reality-denial (e.g. dreams of / quests for symbolic / magical immortality) aka "religion".Fear of death is downstream from the realisation of this distinction between ”I” and ”other”.
Terrific story. :up:Folks might like to read 'The Dispossessed', by Ursula K LeGuin, for a plausible imagining of a cooperative anarchy. — unenlightened
I think property, not "ownership" (mine-ness), is optional – a venn diagram from the least artificial and essential social arrangement to the most artificial and inessential: personal property (one's own mindbody (re: responsibilities), clothes, tools / labor, leisure), communal property (commons), public property ('republic', city / town, roads / waterways), and private property ('codified' scarcity-re/production, ergo class-caste conflicts) – [personal [communal [public [ private ]]]].The background of the question is a kind of genealogy of ownership. — frank
:fire:hope is more of a religious thing.
— Fire Ologist
Wrong way around. Hope is a human thing and therefore religion. — Vera Mont
... or as opposed to the truth: "I, the Lord thy God, shall condemn thee to suffer and die. :roll:The warning was "If ye eat from the Tree,ye will surely die", as opposed to "instantly die". — Outlander
:100: :up:[T]he corresponding UN Security Council resolutions make exactly this argument - that Israel was making any peace deal impossible by creating facts on the ground that are basically irreversible. That was exactly the goal of the settlement policy. — Tzeentch
:100:And that's why Netanyahu supported so eagerly Hamas, those Palestinians that are against a negotiated two state solution. — ssu
There is no "freedom" without "knowing" (e.g. the difference between being free and not being free). To be free from ignorance is the capacity to be free for learning, knowing, understanding and then freeing others. I read the biblical creation myth this way: "Adam and Eve" were slaves punished with mortality by The Master for learning that they do not have to be slaves by learning to disobey (i.e. how to free themselves). :fire:We start off with freedom. [ ... ] What do you want with knowing? — ENOAH