:roll: You've conjured up a distinction without a difference, BobI am not talking about truth-bearing statements but, rather, truth-apt statements, which appear to be different: the former is a proposition which is true, which clearly indicates the need of a truth-maker, and the latter is merely the capacity to be true or false. — Bob Ross
Neither. Both rationalize murdering each other's children.Who would you prefer babysit your toddler? Israel or Hamas? — RogueAI
Neither. Both states are run by religious extremists.More to the point, who would you trust as a nuclear power, Israel or Iran?
:up:Agreed, science pursues knowledge. Knowledge is our most logical way of being concurrent with truth, but cannot assert that it is truth itself. — Philosophim
:up:When the structural elements are riddled with dry rot, I don't waste my time plastering the walls. — Vera Mont
https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/846860 Amen! :halo:Blessed are those who do God's work. — Fooloso4
... but mostly, friend, they willingly live likeAt our best, I think humans ... — universeness
:smirk:You are struggling as best you can, for the sake of all of us, yes?
— universeness
Hell, no! All of yous are on your own.
Are you not still a secular democratic socialist?
— universeness
Nope. Cynical, burnt-out iconoclast — Vera Mont
... relinquished our divergent perspectives and interests. "We all" are always already entangled in at least as many or more win-lose / lose-lose than win-win games. "We few" micro-cooperators, perhaps many times over, is more like it – scarcity-exploiting partisans, sects, gangs, networks, tribes, etc. "We all", my friend, just doesn't effectively scale (re: global governance, the UN, international law enforcement (e.g. climate change, WMD proliferation, wealth laundering / tax-defrauding, etc) ... globalization ... communism ... "utopia", etc). AFAIK, wars & black markets are our most prevalent, recurring forms of macro-cooperation. Even the "Tower of Babel" myth is quite insightful about the inherent fractiousness of the human condition (ergo the unfortunate, historical utility of religio, religare). Don't forget, mate: at our best we're primates, not angels.if we all ... — universeness
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/10/16/judge-imposes-gag-order-on-donald-trump-in-d-c-trial-00121743Mr. Trump is a criminal defendant. He is facing four felony charges. He is under the supervision of the criminal justice system. He does not have the right to say and do exactly as he pleases. … No other criminal defendant would be allowed to do so and I am not going to permit it in this case. — Tonya Chutkan, US District Judge, Wash. DC, 16Oct23
