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  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)



    Ok folks, it's official, he can't answer my questions! The dude can't man-up!!!

    Is he scared, I wonder? Would you care to debate me one on one? I think the voters deserve the truth!!

    LOL
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)


    "I’m an unaffiliated voter. Do you know what that means?"

    "Sorry, your questions are borderline ridiculous, especially if you’re just going to dismiss my answers and reframe the questions with weird and loaded hypotheticals and counterfactuals. "


    It's Ok, take a deep breath, we are all just trying to get to the truth.

    1. Ok, yes I know what that means. Are you a moderate independent like me then?

    2. Please try to answer these questions. They are very important particularly for those who may want to vote in 2020:

    A. If you discovered your wife payed off several men for hush money purposes, would you be ok with that? (And are you ok with the vulgar language Trump uses to refer to women?) Should that be the new normal? If you were a teacher, what would you tell young kids, is that OK?


    B. Why were at least 6 people from his campaign convicted of wrong doing?

    C.. Asking a Foreign Government to perform a "favor", which was the word used from the first transcript is ok to you? Rudy G. confirmed that no?

    D. Is Mexico paying for the wall yet?


    Please be honest with us if you can.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)


    I'm a little confused with some of those answers, LOL , I'll ask again:

    1. If you discovered your wife payed off several men for hush money purposes, would you be ok with that? (And are you ok with the vulgar language Trump uses to refer to women?) Should that be the new normal? If you were a teacher, what would you tell young kids, is that OK?


    2. Why were at least 6 people from his campaign convicted of wrong doing?

    3. I thought you voted for the GOP/Trump, no? Is there a distinction?

    4. Asking a Foreign Government to perform a "favor", which was the word used from the first transcript is ok to you? Rudy G. confirmed that no?



    Be honest with us.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)


    I thought the Biden thing was already adjudicated, no? Regardless sure it's not right agreed, but you are not consistent with your logic.

    1. Then were you OK with the Mueller report? (At least 6 people from the campaign guilty of wrongdoing some of which are in jail.)

    2. Your answer tells me that the GOP is no longer a conservative party. Case in point, I asked you about the deficit which you refused to answer; the GOP used to be fiscal hawk's, but you don't even care. What do you think of Rand Paul? John Kasich? Not extreme enough for you?

    But wow, it took courage for you to answer that the way you did. Unfortunately your answer indicates you would endorse any President asking a Foreign Government for political favors.

    I hope I'm wrong, but I'm beginning to wonder whether your party has lost its sense of moral and ethical righteousness. Like when Reagan was President. Hence, I dare you to prove me wrong:

    If you discovered your wife payed off several men for hush money purposes, would you be ok with that? (And are you ok with the vulgar language Trump uses to refer to women?) Should that be the new normal?

    Be honest with us.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)


    Agreed. Isn't that why the public should be just as concerned with Trump asking for dirt on a political opponent from a foreign government?

    This is a very important question to you: Are you OK with any President doing that? Be honest with us and yourself.

    (Arguably, there's not necessarily a right answer-at this point anyway, but this will tell us a little bit how you, his base, or the GOP now thinks ethically.)
  • Irrational beliefs


    "One pro-speaker, Lawrence Krause (sp?) said that belief in god is irrational.

    I don't think that ends up being a refutation, but since then, I've been pondering the idea of a proposition that's necessarily held irrationally. Is there such a thing?"

    If I may ask, what was the/his description of God, did he say what that was?

    There are actually things in life that are seemingly 'irrational' (probably not the best word) or beyond pure logic, but I will wait for your answer before I share those.

    In other words, did he refer to the Christian God?
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)


    Let's take one at a time:

    1. Presidents have vast constitutional powers.

    Powers to ask a foreign leader to investigate a political rival? You ok with that?
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)


    Okay great...thank you. Can you tell us if you have any concerns? And if not, why not.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)


    Oh shucks, Michael was kind enough to post it:

    https://intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/20190812_-_whistleblower_complaint_unclass.pdf

    Please let us know if you have concerns(?)

    And then I'll ask you some more questions.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)


    Did you read the whistle blower's transcripts? Are you not concerned?
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)


    I'll let S answer...

    "something untrustworthy" would be obvious. (Does that make sense to you?)

    Are you going to vote for Trump again? If so, why? Will you do your homework this time, or just blindly vote?

    The reason I ask is because you have not been able to answer any of my concerns.
  • Irrational beliefs


    ....yes, which could be construed as "inductive reasoning."

    Next question lol
  • Irrational beliefs


    "Just exploring what it means to hold a belief irrationally. "

    Oh, ok, gotcha. Well one short example or analogy would be saying something like: I believe the sun will rise tomorrow.

    Is that irrational? I would say no because it's not a contradiction (p and not- p).

    ( You can reasonably believe that the sun will rise tommorow because you've seen the sun rise before. But their is no guarantee that it will rise again.)

    However, I think it would be in the category of a Kantian synthetic a priori ' belief' or truth statement.

    Kind of similar to the statement that: all events must have a cause.

    A statement like that is something beyond pure reason, but certainly not irrational.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)


    Thank you kindly for that Michael.

    Just to test his so-called veracity relating to the pursuit of his [Trump']s concerns viz. Biden, isn't there another mechanism or avenue for which he could pursue his concerns? Another Agency to investigate Biden?

    If there is, then this surely adds to the likelihood or high probability that Trump's intention was, to once again, have foreign leaders interfere with our election process.
  • Irrational beliefs


    I agree, I think we need more information. OP can you please share more information?

    I....CAN NOT....COMPUTE.....BE....CAUSE...IT...IS..... SOMEWHERE....BETWEEN...A...LOL!
  • A Genderless God


    " I guess we could say the problem lies in two truths:

    1. All fathers are men
    2. Not all men are fathers

    That's why God is Father and not Man. "

    Sure, that's a great analogy! Furthers the notion that the Father is metaphorical in the Bible... .
  • Irrational beliefs


    That's a fun question! It sounds like a subjective truth that one has... .

    Why were you thinking that would be considered irrational?

    Since you put it in the context of a scientific belief of sorts, I'm guessing you're wondering if a synthetic proposition is irrational , no?
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)


    If you caught your wife paying off her lover in order to silence him, how would you feel about that?

    Why does he make disparaging remarks towards women and their vaginas?
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)


    Again thank you for asking questions Frank.

    Regarding the feeling of identity and being pigeonholed, I agree that essentially (my interpretation) one should free themselves by allowing them selves to have courage. We all have so-called intrinsic fears so I know it's easier said than done. And so in politics and/ or religion it rears its ugly head and manifests itself through anger and frustration. Since in that case the person feels something is just not right with their argument - it becomes a bit disconcerting. Thus the dangers of dichotomizing.

    To that end, Kierkegaard talks about living the aesthetic versus ethical or intellectual life. The main takeaway is that both are good. Both have their virtues. And as far as strong personalities not being pathological I agree. As I suggested however, I do think defaulting to either/or in one's thinking would be considered more pathological than not. Much like Eastern philosophy, it's okay to embrace yin and yang, but the art of living is knowing how to integrate those two forces.

    As you probably know, Existentialism for the most part had its origins and popularity from the Old Testament book of Ecclesiastes. ( There were some 60's Pop music that made it more mainstream- " there is a season turn, turn, turn... .") Much of the prevailing thought process-es are based on the common sensibility of the Golden rule. But more importantly, Faith over reason and religious dogma. Including embracing the virtues of imagination and our sense of wonderment which includes mystery associated with our existence. (And of course our illogical existence relative to our perceptions viz consciousness.)

    I'm surely not giving Existentialism the credit it deserves there...
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)


    Hey you're back, great!

    Since you want to talk about racism let's chat a little bit. First of all, why did Trump settle out of court with some tenants who were denied renting his apartments who were black? And why does he make disparaging comments toward minorities?

    And regarding moderates, did you support Reagan?
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)


    Yes. Either/or.

    And ironically enough that's the problem with this political discussion. When persons stubbornly dichotomize, they paint themselves in a box and don't know how to get out.

    Another reason why we need moderates in both our political and religious institutions.

    Thank you for asking. (And of course obviously I'm a Christian Existentialist. And am not scared to have taken the leap of faith.)

    Which of course begs another question why the Fundamentalists support a guy that has character issues viz. Stormy Daniels ( and women in general).
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)


    I know, for some reason he can't answer my questions.

    Maybe he's soul-searching LOL.

    When he comes back I've got a bunch of other questions.

    Questions questions questions....the public needs answers LOL!!!!!
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)


    Are you ashamed that Mexico hasn't been paying for the wall and that he sold you a false bill of goods?
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)


    Are you embarrassed that he's run the deficit up?
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)


    ... then please share how he compares? Are you basically saying you didn't do your homework?
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)


    I don't know that's why I'm asking. Didn't you vote for him?
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)


    Think of it as common questions that the public wants to know.

    Would you rather take one at a time?

    Let's start with the deficit. How does he compare with other presidents?
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)


    Answering the questions so that the public here can know the truth.

    I'll keep asking them, and more questions, until you answer. Please don't be afraid of yourself.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)


    Trump wanted to investigate Google search engine because Google search results turn up nothing but bad news.

    You okay with that?
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)


    Why isn't Mexico paying for the wall?
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)


    Have you check the deficit lately?

    Do you like his character viz. women?

    Do you think he is a racist?

    Is he really a good business man? He went belly-up numerous times; said in the campaign he was 'the king of debt, and settled out of court for discriminating against blacks. I have more facts if you want them.

    How about at least 6 people from his campaign either in jail or otherwise pleaded guilty of wrong doing...

    Are those the results a staunch member of the Grand Old Party would support?

    You ok with that?
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)


    Why isn't Mexico paying for the wall?
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)


    Oh sorry I remember, I think you used a euphemism for an extremist.

    You didn't answer these yet:

    Have you check the deficit lately?

    Do you like his character viz. women?

    Do you think he is a racist?

    Is he really a good business man? He went belly-up numerous times; said in the campaign he was 'the king of debt, and settled out of court for discriminating against blacks. I have more facts if you want them.

    How about at least 6 people from his campaign either in jail or otherwise pleaded guilty of wrong doing...

    Are those the results a staunch member of the Grand Old Party would support?

    You ok with that?
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)


    If your wife was president and you found out she was paying men off to silence them how would you feel about that?
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)


    Great points. I'm going to make a bold prediction. The house will vote to impeach him, it will go to the Senate and die-off; however, the public sentiment will change such that they will lose all confidence and he will lose re-election.

    It will be more or less a protest vote. Sad but true.