Only if you get the 2x4 out your ass. — Heister Eggcart
No, not quite. I'm not trolling until I post a star trek image, which subconsciously stirs Baden from his primordial sleep so that he can then delete it immediately >:O — Heister Eggcart
Obviously the word can be used in various ways. — Mongrel
What you call bastardization of Jesus' intentions I call what I was taught growing up. Like it or not pastors and preachers out there interpreting scripture at large do often make the interpretations which I'm specifically attacking. — VagabondSpectre
I know you are but what am I? Teehee! — VagabondSpectre
...but it's vastly removed from mainstream religion and the original point I happen to be ridiculing. — VagabondSpectre
The religious ideas I address aren't the "hell is a metaphor" variety. — VagabondSpectre
You made a statement, "religion leads to morality". — VagabondSpectre
I don't hate religion or the bible — VagabondSpectre
...these ancient and largely barbarous fairy tales — VagabondSpectre
So you think that I'm trying to mimic your missing argument (which you're now telling me is that i have no argument) by asking you to submit your missing argument? — VagabondSpectre
When I was a child I might have responded to such a veiled threat by acquiescing to your world view, but now that I've actually experienced life I know it's only an inexperienced mind that could possibly assent to it, or else an unrobust one seeking emotional refuge. — VagabondSpectre
No, the first rule of Philosophy Club should be cats. — Sapientia
The last month, I've been 'working' in a Govt. contract in which there is literally zero workload. — Wayfarer
Some laws contained in the old testament are unequivocally barbaric. Do you disagree? — VagabondSpectre
How about you show you understand what you're talking about and show that it makes sense by submitting the argument I've requested you to submit. That's "talking". If you have no argument for your statement, then I'll casually brush it aside for the unsubstantiated postulate that it is. — VagabondSpectre
You might think it's wise to emotionally submit to the wisdom of the parables, just like how Abraham emotionally submitted to the will of god and was prepared to murder his own son, but that's not moral well-being. That's closer to Stockholm syndrome than it is moral enlightenment. — VagabondSpectre
I don't bastardize scripture, I interpret it quite fairly. — VagabondSpectre
It awakened a sense of thankfulness for not being governed by people who are willing to carry out abhorrent, wasteful, and violent actions (as depicted in the bible) in the name of god-love. — VagabondSpectre
And these aren't my beliefs I'm injecting, they're Christian beliefs: — VagabondSpectre
In the old testament forgiveness was purchased through the blood of sacrificial animals. In the new testament forgiveness was purchased through the blood of Jesus. God explicitly requires blood (death/suffering) in order to forgive.... — VagabondSpectre
The ritualized nature of this in Christianity resembles pagan blood magic. — VagabondSpectre
The tale of the binding of Isaac disgusts me: "God says to sacrifice my son... GREAT IDEA GOD! And oh! God gave me a lamb at the last possible second to sacrifice instead! WHAT INFINITE WISDOM!!!". — VagabondSpectre
I've read the bible cover to cover and it didn't awaken my conscience through love. — VagabondSpectre
So tell me exactly how it is that morality leads to religion? — VagabondSpectre
I refuse to submit to religiously inspired love because if I do that then I'm at the mercy of all the ridiculous baggage that tends to come included in any actual religion. I love myself and my family well enough without religion, and I somewhat have love for humanity, and that's enough. I don't need what religion offers, so why should I bother? — VagabondSpectre
There is no issue with rigidity if the disk is assumed to be rotating at constant angular velocity. — Pierre-Normand
For me the core of Jesus' teachings will always be that suffering, pain, and damnation await those who do not kowtow to God.
God created Jesus (himself) and then forsook (betrayed IMO) Jesus when he had him crucified in order to make the world right again. (I like to joke that God uses blood magic to do his mysterious works and so dispenses with human life whenever). God is Gargamel and we're the smurfs — VagabondSpectre
Evil is what it means to be human; without the possibility to do otherwise, man could not be free. — Cavacava
PS Congratulations! — Cavacava
The uncaused cause & the noumenon, are both unknowable but not forgotten, they are still needed as necessary perspectives in our empirical faith in pure reason & our religious faith in freedom, liberty, equality, et al. They create their own 'space', I think. — Cavacava
American culture tends to produce people who are overconfident, given the anti-intellectualism and faux intellectualism — Chany
The point is not that absolutes can't be, even perhaps they must be, but they cannot be known, they can only be believed in and this is how Kant makes room for faith. — Cavacava
I realize that I didn't explain that part of my post well enough, but nether did I consider it really all that important considering such things as that we (as well as anyone reading this) will most likely be dead in the next 50 to a 100 years and that very small nuances like that will never be read after that as well as forgotten by that time. — dclements
If you can give me a reply to my last post and/or as to why it is wrong for me to consider myself both an atheist and an agnostic at the same time. — dclements
Sure you can ask questions to such things but without the resources to answer them IMHO it is..more pragmatic to focus on things that can be dealt with than with such things that can not be. — dclements
Maybe this is the wrong way to look at it this way, since it does take at least some talent to create a magic show or any good show for that matter, but much 'magical thinking' isn't pragmatic with dealing with many problems if what we are looking at is really just a mundane process like any other mundane process. — dclements
This a quote from "The Only Possible Argument in Support of a Demonstration of the Existence of God". published in 1763, which SEP considers Kant's pre-critical period, it does not appear to have made the cut 18 years latter in his 1st Critique. — Cavacava
There is no absolute, no reason why things are the way they are, no full explanation, things are just the way they are, everything could be otherwise. The explanation that things the way they are due to an ineffable real being is superstition. This is not to say there is no God, only that describing God as a real being is "magical thinking" , but there is reason to think that "magical thinking" might be essential in man, Kant intimates as much. — Cavacava
The only necessity is contingency. >:O — Cavacava
I wouldn't be too sure about that. It would be incredibly ignorant of you to assume their lack of influence in existing and potential proxy wars along with the US. It is economics and, indeed, SK and Japan were the primary impetus behind the deterrence of war, but it is not safety that the US esteem above all else. It is profiteering....to the dismay of China and Russia — Question
My conscious mind could only regard this, at the time, as me just wanting to get at the best interpretation. Later, after facing some of my own issues, I realized what was really going on, and why I had had extra emotions in that discussion. I have experienced this kind of thing in all sorts of relationship discussions, where desires and desires not to notice these desires were not conscious at the time, but definitely present. — Coben
This proof is tied to the principle of sufficient reason, the concept that every worldly fact has a reason, an explanation, a cause, a reason why things are the way they are in fact, and reasons for those reasons, which leads to infinite regress. Every metaphysics is accented by at least one absolutely necessary real entity, which is the 'dogmatic metaphysics'. But if any such real necessary being is rejected then the principle of sufficient reason is also rejected. — Cavacava
Still ain't convinced!The only necessity is contingency. — Cavacava
Is this a trick question? >:)Well what would happen to the constitution of the universe if one digit in Planck's Constant were different? — Cavacava
Thanks, great questions, but I am facing a mountain of unpacking :-* , so later slater. — Cavacava
I am more than HAPPY if you can tell me what it is that I believe that is WRONG so I can fix it, but right now I don't know if there is anything I believe that is wrong or if you just think I think of myself as some kind of special snowflake or something — dclements
I kind of both agnostic and atheist. — dclements
I think you missed the point; the only person who can satiate your ego is you, considering you choose who you interact with. For instance, the concept of the "crazy cat lady" is a reference to people who substitute human relationships with animals since a cat is not going to respond to your flaws and in your own neurotic way believe that it actually cares for you. If you like the company of people who compliment you especially when you don't deserve it, of those people who never show you your flaws or open you to your mistakes, of those who don't challenge you emotionally and intellectually, and if you associate with people that you can - and willingly - lie to or manipulate (because you have zero respect for them), you do not mirror yourself with another person as part of a genuine human relationship, but you mirror yourself to your own ego and as such you will never improve. A signal of this narcissism is almost always anger or some other self-defence mechanism to the very person who points out your flaws.I'm kind of glad that none of what your saying really applies to me since their is nobody either on the forums or elsewhere who puts any effort into satiating my ego or make me feel better than any other pleb. — dclements
